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Istreliteli
06-09-2004, 08:40 PM
Ok, the I-185 is excellent in every category, EXCEPT, the guns are like bibis!
I consistently hit enemy aircraft with all the cannon shells and i need like 7 rounds to down an Emil.
its much harder for me to shoot down stuff in the 185 than any other a/c...

Ya sizhu i smotru chuzhoya neba iz chuzhoya okna, i ne vidyem ne odnoi znakom iz zvezdiy,ya hodil po vsyem dorogo iz tuda i suda, a vernusya i ne smog, razgredyet sledi, no isli yest karmane pachka sigaret nachat vsye ne tak uzh plocha na syevodnachniy dyen-Victor Tsoi, Kino (Gruppa Krovi)

Istreliteli
06-09-2004, 08:40 PM
Ok, the I-185 is excellent in every category, EXCEPT, the guns are like bibis!
I consistently hit enemy aircraft with all the cannon shells and i need like 7 rounds to down an Emil.
its much harder for me to shoot down stuff in the 185 than any other a/c...

Ya sizhu i smotru chuzhoya neba iz chuzhoya okna, i ne vidyem ne odnoi znakom iz zvezdiy,ya hodil po vsyem dorogo iz tuda i suda, a vernusya i ne smog, razgredyet sledi, no isli yest karmane pachka sigaret nachat vsye ne tak uzh plocha na syevodnachniy dyen-Victor Tsoi, Kino (Gruppa Krovi)

Cragger
06-09-2004, 09:31 PM
Boohoo.



Great responce huh, but about sums up the worth of this post.

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Fennec_P
06-09-2004, 09:34 PM
A whole 7 hits? Thats a travesty.

Slammin_
06-09-2004, 10:51 PM
How can you make a machine gun do 7 rounds? Must be that new bullet-time mod.

Istreliteli
06-09-2004, 11:27 PM
no i mean if you pull the trigger 1 time that is one round, 2 times 2 rounds, etc. Its more than 7 actually, all i am saying is that the 185 seems to need more hits on target than most other planes, including vvs ones like the yak 3 with its little 12.7 and 1 20mm...3 20s should be better than what we see in the 185. I hope that the ballistics model for its guns are correct (as with every plane in the game). As for everything else, i do think its somewhat star warsish, but not the guns.

Ya sizhu i smotru chuzhoya neba iz chuzhoya okna, i ne vidyem ne odnoi znakom iz zvezdiy,ya hodil po vsyem dorogo iz tuda i suda, a vernusya i ne smog, razgredyet sledi, no isli yest karmane pachka sigaret nachat vsye ne tak uzh plocha na syevodnachniy dyen-Victor Tsoi, Kino (Gruppa Krovi)

ruf9ii
06-09-2004, 11:44 PM
7 u take 7 'rounds' to drop a 109?! u must be hitting it dead on the back at the fuselage or something useless like that. you'll find that 1 'round' will take out an engine of a fighter (bombers are tougher) 2 will usually knock a wing off. if ur turn fighting and get a good lead shot on ur opfor, a spray from nose to tail will knock the #### outa any enemy fighter. this is usually about 4-6 'rounds' in no general area. good thing about this plane is you dont have to be concerned so much about conversion, so all your rounds will be very precise (accuracy depends on where u point it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ELEM
06-10-2004, 12:20 AM
I have found the 3 x 20mm of the I-185 extremely effective, having taken out 109's with 2-3 rounds. But I would be quite happy if it took 7 rounds to do the same thing. Like! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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Prof.Wizard
06-10-2004, 12:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slammin_:
How can you make a machine gun do 7 rounds? Must be that new bullet-time mod.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hawgdog
06-10-2004, 05:03 AM
My best kill yet was in the 185.
I LOVE the thing, and it cracks me up its not on the pull down menu's in some servers..yet that POS 109Z is.

After a DF for about three- four minutes I blacked out, perhaps he did too, lost sight of him, or he ran, found him snuck up and took his wing off- P-47. About a five minute battle without those knuckleheads swarming in and making it a free for all.

Those guns on the 185 are lethal.

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Hawgdog
06-10-2004, 05:05 AM
I forgot the "other" reasons to ban the 185!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif
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1.JaVA_Razer
06-10-2004, 05:13 AM
photoshop garbage...

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Hawgdog
06-10-2004, 05:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 1.JaVA_Razer:
photoshop garbage...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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GreyBeast
06-10-2004, 06:14 AM
Whoa! I must have gotten a lucky shot, then... I was almost convinced the I-185 had a devastating set of cannon and machine guns...

Hawgdog
06-10-2004, 12:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GreyBeast:
Whoa! I must have gotten a lucky shot, then... I was almost convinced the I-185 had a devastating set of cannon and machine guns...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Bobsqueek
06-10-2004, 01:16 PM
http://server5.uploadit.org/files/Bobsqueek-I185153.jpg

I-185's suck

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Hawgdog
06-10-2004, 03:42 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bobsqueek:


I-185's suck

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Only slightly LESS than bi-planes

VW-IceFire
06-10-2004, 04:13 PM
If you pull the trigger once...there is no reason to assume you meerly fired a single cannon round. Probably several shells were expended.

I-185 is not overmodeled nor is it undermodeled. Its difficult to aim with and its not as agile as its La and Yak cousins. Its very fast but since its historical use date was more in the 1943 category there are plenty of aircraft at that time which are just as capable.

I also agree that people removing the I-185 on the grounds of historical use should also remove several other types including the 109Z and a couple of others (Me 163, MIG-3U, etc.).

The I-185 doesn't worry me at all...not one bit.

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crazyivan1970
06-10-2004, 04:23 PM
I included I-185 into my Kuban scenario. It fits in...

Also i would like to mention something to those who thinks that I-185 is too good. We had a COOP where 14 I-185s met 8 Me109-G2s and 6 FW190-A4s and i must say that it came out even. Nobody won really. Nothing special about that plane and i don`t see why people think of it as a UFO. It`s a great plane for its era, but as i said before, there is always G2 and A4 to counter-balance it. Even in 1942.

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JG6_Oddball
06-10-2004, 06:07 PM
If you have a problem with the I 185 wait till you see what oleg is puting in the next patch http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://www.geocities.com/jg6il2/fun109d.txt

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Dawg-of-death
06-10-2004, 08:41 PM
The 185 is Ok but, no match for an Ace in a LA-7

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hawgdog:
My best kill yet was in the 185.
I LOVE the thing, and it cracks me up its not on the pull down menu's in some servers..yet that POS 109Z is.

After a DF for about three- four minutes I blacked out, perhaps he did too, lost sight of him, or he ran, found him snuck up and took his wing off- P-47. About a five minute battle without those knuckleheads swarming in and making it a free for all.

Those guns on the 185 are lethal.

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mortoma
06-11-2004, 10:30 PM
I agree with some that say the I-185 is not that great of a handler. I put it in a campaign and have flown it enough to make a judgment. My judgment is that I have more success against 109s flying just about all other early and mid war Soviet planes. I even can kill 109s better flying the Lagg S-4, despite it being half as fast as the I-185. The handling of both of the I-185s feels heavy at medium to high speeds than Yaks and Laggs and such. It certainly is not bad though!! Just not what it's hyped up to be is all............over and out.