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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 08:14 AM
I'm just a bit curious here. There are a few real-life pilots in this forum. How many of you fly aerobatics or have tried aerobatics? I tried an aerobatics class yesterday (which cost half a fortune and my lunch.)

I was quite pleasantly surprised over how familiar the manouvers felt, apart from the Gs of course (nothing too violent, from I think +3G to -1G.) The only real difference I noticed was that in this plane (Bellanca Super Decathlon) the wing-over showed absolutely no roll tendency at all, it just smoothly fell over the wing tip.

All was well until the spin, that one really upset my stomache, and nothing was quite the same afterwards.

The instructor said almost all who try it get sick the first few times, but that you get used to it. Did those of you who have tried it get over it, or did you give up because of the sickness? I'm asking because I'm thinking of weather I should try to go for an aerobatics rating or not. It's a lot of money, and it'd be a shame to waste it if I couldn't go through.
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/Bjorn.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 08:14 AM
I'm just a bit curious here. There are a few real-life pilots in this forum. How many of you fly aerobatics or have tried aerobatics? I tried an aerobatics class yesterday (which cost half a fortune and my lunch.)

I was quite pleasantly surprised over how familiar the manouvers felt, apart from the Gs of course (nothing too violent, from I think +3G to -1G.) The only real difference I noticed was that in this plane (Bellanca Super Decathlon) the wing-over showed absolutely no roll tendency at all, it just smoothly fell over the wing tip.

All was well until the spin, that one really upset my stomache, and nothing was quite the same afterwards.

The instructor said almost all who try it get sick the first few times, but that you get used to it. Did those of you who have tried it get over it, or did you give up because of the sickness? I'm asking because I'm thinking of weather I should try to go for an aerobatics rating or not. It's a lot of money, and it'd be a shame to waste it if I couldn't go through.
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/Bjorn.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 08:20 AM
got a few hrs in 152 172 206 turbine( soloy)....no aerobatic at all ..............curious did any thing you have done here help you?

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 08:25 AM
I think I was helped by what I've learned from this game. The plane is not on the powerful end, of corse, more like the Chaika or P11 (not much acceleration, but turns on a dime.)

The manouvers felt natural. The instructor also said that he felt I had much better control of both the plane and my orientation in the airspace/geography than most who try it, and I think that can be attributed to the gaming.
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/Bjorn.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 08:49 AM
If aerobatics make you sick do it again and again, you'll get used to it, i've done aerobatic routines in many aircraft, featuring Bucker Jungmann, DH Tigermoth, Boeing Stearman, Falco, DH Chipmunk, Bulldog, and the best was in a Yak 11, i've also done 'aeros' in a Yak 52. Aeros are tops, but pushing 300mph at 50ft off the deck straight down the main runway, looking to your side and realising that you are actually lower than the hanger roof, now thats what i call fun, and just in time for a rolling climb out, off the end of the airfield.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 12:59 PM
I fly for a living and I have done a few aeros in various things. Every pilot I know get a bit queezy if they have had a long lay-off from pulling G. It is actually worse for passengers, you have nothing to do to take your mind off it.

The aircraft will roll a little when you do a stall turn but its slight, unless you give it a little burst of power to get the nose moving in the right directon.

The Decathlon is a nice aircraft to learn in if you can cope with the high wing.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 02:19 PM
Hmmm... One definitely positive voice, and one that I interpret as positive, and no negative ones. Maybe I should go for it. Strangely the Gs were not a problem (but the, we didn't really push it.) The rotations of the spin, however. Sheesh! I'm still not sure. Won't be until the spring, though. VFR night training this fall.

(My head still feels a bit unstable, the day after, but maybe that has more to do with the beers I selebrated with... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )
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/Bjorn.



Message Edited on 09/25/0303:23PM by swingman

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 03:00 PM
I've done a few aeros in DH Chipmunks and Bulldogs. Most fun you can have on your own and I definitely think flight sims help with orientation and 'feel' for the aircraft. Only the physical motion of your body is different.

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 03:40 PM
A little in a Aeronca. Nice plane /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
11-27-2003, 06:17 AM
I just found an old post forgive me for the bump, but. . .

I think that you will find that if you are the one flying that you will either not get sick at all, or at least you won't very easilly. I myself have never been the slightest bit quesy, however passengers, and even aerobatic instructors I have flown with have. Many aerobatics instructors I know seem to hold the ReliefBand in high regard.(These are people who spend all day as a passenger while OTHER people fly the aerobatics, often they are stuck in the back seat with no forward view, so they are prime candidates for airsickness)


Take a look here:
http://www.marvgolden.com/health-safety/relief_bands.htm
It is a little pricey compared to some options, but this is drug free, and doesn't make you drowsy (not good if your Pilot In Command!)

This is often a psychological thing, and wearing the band for a little while is often all that is needed to "train" yourself to cope with the sensations without feeling the need. . .the need for. . . a barfbag.




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