PDA

View Full Version : Would Pictures Help Us Get A Flyable B-29?



LuckyBoy1
06-03-2004, 08:06 AM
I've heard some folks complain thaty one of the reasons we won't get a flyable B-29 is lack of documentation. If it would help, I can run down to the Warner Robins Air Museum and the fellers down there have told me they are willing to take pictures of every odd space in the inside of the plane for me. All I'd have to do is supply them with a camera and a ruler for scale referrence. I'm not about to do all this unless it will yield results. So... is this needed?

Why I'm doing this when I'll never buy Pacific Fighters is beyond me! Still, the offer stands.

Solutions for internet security & spyware problems... http://www.geocities.com/callingelvis911/s_s.html

Luckyboy = Senior hydraulic landing gear designer for the P-11 & Contributing Editor to Complete Users magazine.

LuckyBoy1
06-03-2004, 08:06 AM
I've heard some folks complain thaty one of the reasons we won't get a flyable B-29 is lack of documentation. If it would help, I can run down to the Warner Robins Air Museum and the fellers down there have told me they are willing to take pictures of every odd space in the inside of the plane for me. All I'd have to do is supply them with a camera and a ruler for scale referrence. I'm not about to do all this unless it will yield results. So... is this needed?

Why I'm doing this when I'll never buy Pacific Fighters is beyond me! Still, the offer stands.

Solutions for internet security & spyware problems... http://www.geocities.com/callingelvis911/s_s.html

Luckyboy = Senior hydraulic landing gear designer for the P-11 & Contributing Editor to Complete Users magazine.

BlitzPig_DDT
06-03-2004, 10:29 AM
You bomber types are funny. Why in the world would you want to spend hours (potentially) flying along in a mostly straight and level path with nothing to do but watch computer generated scenary crawl by, and being big juicy targets for the fighters to shred?

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

http://operationcarepackage.org/ddtsig.gif

Cess_Wizard
06-03-2004, 10:53 AM
Although I guess a lot of 3rd party modellers scan this forum you might be advised to post this offer in the 3rd party modellers forum at www.netwings.org (http://www.netwings.org)

Korolov
06-03-2004, 01:20 PM
It's not the lack of references - it's the time it takes to do a bomber of the B-29's size, especially with all the cockpit work required.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/newsig1.jpg

Gibbage1
06-03-2004, 04:18 PM
Making a flyable bomber takes about 10-12x the time as making a flyable fighter. So its not lack of referance, but lack of time and willpaower http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LuckyBoy1:
I've heard some folks complain thaty one of the reasons we won't get a flyable B-29 is lack of documentation. If it would help, I can run down to the Warner Robins Air Museum and the fellers down there have told me they are willing to take pictures of every odd space in the inside of the plane for me. All I'd have to do is supply them with a camera and a ruler for scale referrence. I'm not about to do all this unless it will yield results. So... is this needed?

Why I'm doing this when I'll never buy Pacific Fighters is beyond me! Still, the offer stands.

Solutions for internet security & spyware problems... http://www.geocities.com/callingelvis911/s_s.html

Luckyboy = Senior hydraulic landing gear designer for the P-11 & Contributing Editor to Complete Users magazine.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

LuckyBoy1
06-03-2004, 11:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cess_Wizard:
Although I guess a lot of 3rd party modellers scan this forum you might be advised to post this offer in the 3rd party modellers forum at http://www.netwings.org<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, I'll post it there.

I respect those who don't have the time to do the project. I'd rather hear that up front and man-like rather than some half baked commitment. Gibbage, you've done a lot for this game and I thank you for the response.
As far as the comments by some who say why would you want to fly in a straight line for hours on end? Well, bomber or fighter, that's the way it was! This ain't a Space Munchies game! As far as a formation of bombers being easy to tear up, well, the facts of WWII just don't support such a statement. It's not my fault that Oleg has caved in to the whiners who like to fly in a straight line up the tail of a bomber. I flew with some HE-111 fans last night. They even had live gunners at every position. I would have loved for you to have tried to take on those four HE-111's!!!

Solutions for internet security & spyware problems... http://www.geocities.com/callingelvis911/s_s.html

Luckyboy = Senior hydraulic landing gear designer for the P-11 & Contributing Editor to Complete Users magazine.

necrobaron
06-04-2004, 12:59 AM
Didn't Luthier say the B-29 might be flyable? Did I imagine this?

"Not all who wander are lost."

No105_Swoose
06-04-2004, 07:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlitzPig_DDT:
You bomber types are funny. Why in the world would you want to spend hours (potentially) flying along in a mostly straight and level path with nothing to do but watch computer generated scenary crawl by, and being big juicy targets for the fighters to shred?

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

http://operationcarepackage.org/ddtsig.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You might want to qualify that with "heavy" in front of "bomber types" but overall I agree with your statement. It would be especially true for PF. After General Curtis Lemay took over the XX Bomber Command and 20th Air Force, he switched B-29 tactics to low-level firebombing raids at night. I can't think of anything more boring than taking off from Tinian or Saipan and flying for hours on end over water at night. The only solution might be an "advance to the next waypoint" feature similar to what EAW had. With that you could skip to the IP before a target, although it usually put you at a tactical disadvantage compared to if you had flown the route normally.

The B-29 is probably too complicated for modelling the interior crew stations and equipment such as the targeting radar and gunnery fire control computer.

I am definitely looking forward to flying the attack and medium bombers that I believe are planned for PF: the A-20 Havoc, the B-25 Mitchell, and the Bristol Beaufighter. The mission range is reasonable and the sortie types (skip bombing ships, dropping parafrag bombs on airfields) should be challenging. That's my two cents.

Aztek_Eagle
06-04-2004, 12:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlitzPig_DDT:
You bomber types are funny. Why in the world would you want to spend hours (potentially) flying along in a mostly straight and level path with nothing to do but watch computer generated scenary crawl by, and being big juicy targets for the fighters to shred?

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

http://operationcarepackage.org/ddtsig.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Satisfaction is high when sucess, if you think you are good, fly a bomber, u will sget shoot down 5 minutes from base, getting into predeterminated fly path, wiht ur buddys, in tight formation, avoiding enemy activity area, be unseen and unheard till they see their base or their factorys, or the targets they were supoust to be protected blown off..... is a good feeling if u hit where u were supoust to, and this is not the freaky dive bomb on he111 that many do, instead a well coordinate drop, they drop on my comand as i am mostly always the leader bomber.. and getting all our bombs on target and win the mission isntantly.... when our fighters where loosing the battle, 2 of us destroyed 59 targets in one run,... and won the mission.;.... normaly afther droping on close to target we got to fight our way in and out witch is very fun, yesterday or the day before i shoot down 3 fighters down on my way home, but my 2 buddys got shoot down to ground and i got to bail... yesterday, we 3 ppl into bombrun, we were atack by many enemy fighters, they shoot one of us down, and i was wounded, and my elevators broken.. but my wingman told me, WE CAN STILL DO IT MAN!! WE CAN DO IT!! and it gave me the streng to level up, se my gunsight as i was lossing alt wiht 3 engines and no elevators, and my wingman on my rught wing in tight formation... finaly i droped around 700 alt, and we hit the DAM TARGET! we won the mission.... isnt that fun?

Aztek_Eagle
06-04-2004, 12:13 PM
HO but dont remember that wiht live players is more realistic, i dont do bombruns vs ai, annoying as ur wingman dont drop wiht u..... only fly bombruns online

BlitzPig_DDT
06-04-2004, 12:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aztek_Eagle:
&lt;snip&gt;
isnt that fun?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Even the long flights of the offline missions, in a fighter, are bloody boring. 8X time compression isn't enough - has never been enough. I sincerely hope we get like 32X or 64X, or a warp to way point in PF.

http://operationcarepackage.org/ddtsig.gif

Aztek_Eagle
06-04-2004, 12:36 PM
i am talking online wiht alive players, and the question of fun is question of opinion

BlitzPig_DDT
06-04-2004, 12:49 PM
Yeah, online is even worse since you can't use time acceleration. lol http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://operationcarepackage.org/ddtsig.gif

DuxCorvan
06-04-2004, 01:49 PM
If you're Elle McPherson's brother and you post pictures of her in the shower, that would help a lot... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

- Dux Corvan -
http://www.uploadit.org/DuxCorvan/Altamira2.jpg
Ten thousand years of Cantabrian skinning.

BlitzPig_DDT
06-04-2004, 02:13 PM
No, that's bombshell, not bomber. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://operationcarepackage.org/ddtsig.gif