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JG27_Aristo
06-17-2004, 10:55 AM
Hi all I just had to post this as it has changed my life.
sorry but im not going to worry about grammer.
I have recently been having problems at work and at home with being able to stay awake or have energy enough to enjoy my time with my children.my work made me go to the doctor when recently in a meeting i dozed off for a few minutes.
well to make a long story short it was discovered that i have sleep apnea.
sleep apnea is where you stop breathing as you sleep.
symptoms:
waking up at odd hours of the night and having to pee alot.
heavy snoring (your spouse can hear u stop)
tired all the time

the local hospital sleep lab i was sent to recorded these figures during the night i slept there.
actual sleep 4 hrs not good rem sleep more like daydreaming
stopped breathing 568 times longest was 45 seconds
blood o2 level 95% is good 85% is bad mine went to 71%


i was the second worse result they ever had and as such made it a priority to get me back in,so after only 1 week i was brought in and put on a c-pap machine which uses pressurised air to keep the soft tissues open while you sleep
new result
never stopped breathing once
was in rem sleep within 20 min
o2 was at 96%

i have been givin a machine and what can i say i feel great!!!!!
8 hours i wake up my energy is so high i dont believe it the kids love it the wife loves i dont snore now.at work my boss said im not the same person from a week ago.im making plans now for me and the kids to do things i havent felt like doing in a long time.
ive honestly been givin a new lease on life.when i wake up now no alarm needed i feel alert and fresh.its wonderfull.
added benefits
o2 up means metabolism goes waqy up i was told to expect a natural weight loss
my hunger has curbed itself like you would not believe and my thirst to.


for those with this problem please get it checked before it kills you
it is very hard on the heart and leads to strokes and heart attacks plus your quality of life sucks
im only 40 years old six two and 250 lbs im not sagging fat but i did have this problem and never even knew it.i thought i was getting diabetes.if i hadnt had this checked id have been one of those 45 year old guys they find dead in bed from a supposed heart attack!
take care all
john

JG27_Aristo
06-17-2004, 10:55 AM
Hi all I just had to post this as it has changed my life.
sorry but im not going to worry about grammer.
I have recently been having problems at work and at home with being able to stay awake or have energy enough to enjoy my time with my children.my work made me go to the doctor when recently in a meeting i dozed off for a few minutes.
well to make a long story short it was discovered that i have sleep apnea.
sleep apnea is where you stop breathing as you sleep.
symptoms:
waking up at odd hours of the night and having to pee alot.
heavy snoring (your spouse can hear u stop)
tired all the time

the local hospital sleep lab i was sent to recorded these figures during the night i slept there.
actual sleep 4 hrs not good rem sleep more like daydreaming
stopped breathing 568 times longest was 45 seconds
blood o2 level 95% is good 85% is bad mine went to 71%


i was the second worse result they ever had and as such made it a priority to get me back in,so after only 1 week i was brought in and put on a c-pap machine which uses pressurised air to keep the soft tissues open while you sleep
new result
never stopped breathing once
was in rem sleep within 20 min
o2 was at 96%

i have been givin a machine and what can i say i feel great!!!!!
8 hours i wake up my energy is so high i dont believe it the kids love it the wife loves i dont snore now.at work my boss said im not the same person from a week ago.im making plans now for me and the kids to do things i havent felt like doing in a long time.
ive honestly been givin a new lease on life.when i wake up now no alarm needed i feel alert and fresh.its wonderfull.
added benefits
o2 up means metabolism goes waqy up i was told to expect a natural weight loss
my hunger has curbed itself like you would not believe and my thirst to.


for those with this problem please get it checked before it kills you
it is very hard on the heart and leads to strokes and heart attacks plus your quality of life sucks
im only 40 years old six two and 250 lbs im not sagging fat but i did have this problem and never even knew it.i thought i was getting diabetes.if i hadnt had this checked id have been one of those 45 year old guys they find dead in bed from a supposed heart attack!
take care all
john

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06-17-2004, 10:59 AM
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06-17-2004, 11:08 AM
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06-17-2004, 11:12 AM
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06-17-2004, 11:12 AM
Yeah, excellent to hear about the improved quality of lifehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Gutsy posthttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

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06-17-2004, 11:15 AM
Nice to hear your good fortune in diagnosing your problem. Now get out there and enjoy your life!



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06-17-2004, 11:21 AM
Glad you feel better ole buddy, now lay off those pork chops at 3am http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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06-17-2004, 12:50 PM
Lol. Thats a damn good thing!!!

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Thank goodness! No more snoring on Team Speak!!

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06-17-2004, 01:40 PM
You are hard enough to shoot down sleeping let alone awake! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif



Good to here you found a solution/cure and have new happiness. On the down side, no more excuses for sleeping at work.

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georgeo76
06-17-2004, 05:31 PM
I'm very glad you brought this up. Earlier this afternoon, I escorted my mom to the neurologist to get the results from her first sleep study. (her results were almost as dismal as yours Aristo) She goes back this Tuesday for her next sleep study (the one where that calibrate the c-pap to her.)

The underlying cause of sleep apnea is being overweight. The tissue in your throat gains weight too, constricting the airway. As you relax during sleep this tissue vibrates (snoring), and as you relax further into deep (REM) sleep, the airway completely closes. This will rouse you from deep sleep into a light sleep, or completely awake. Being deprived of REM sleep largely nullifies the benefits of sleeping @ all. The general fatigue you'll experience makes loosing weight that much more difficult.

Sleep apnea is a epidemic, parallel to the epidemic of general weight and obesity problems across the western world. Besides the health problems Aristo already mentioned, many car wrecks (especially single vehicle accidents) are attributable to sleep apnea.

Long story short; if your overweight and you snore, get checked out!

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06-17-2004, 05:48 PM
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06-17-2004, 07:13 PM
i wake up my energy is so high i dont believe it ---


I bet thw wife like that too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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LW_lcarp
06-17-2004, 08:15 PM
Welcome to the CLUB

I was diagnosed with sleep apnea about 8 years ago.

No one that doesnt suffer from it can't begin to understand what its like to be tired and can fall asleep at anytime. They also cant understand the the stress put on everyone around them also. Good to see that you got that sorted out.

Warning signs of sleep apnea are real easy for others to notice also. Loud (I mean loud... I was snoring at 130 db)snoring, Stopping breathing while sleeping, One thing that not everyone gets is restless leg syndrome (Thats what got me checked out).

Sleep apnea can lead to heart attacks and stokes and other things so its not something to take lying down.(no pun intended)

Overweight people at more of a risk of sleep apnea so another reason to watch your weight

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06-17-2004, 08:22 PM
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johann63
06-17-2004, 08:23 PM
wooo


I read this and it sounds familier. Your specs are mine to the T, well Im a couple pounds lighter.


Does working everyday for the last month effect this for me, hm..........

Got to take care of my heart, for my fam.if not for me.

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JG27_Aristo
06-17-2004, 10:38 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by johann63:
wooo


I read this and it sounds familier. Your specs are mine to the T, well Im a couple pounds lighter.

thanks guys for the nice words!it really is a killer in sheeps clothing and what so scary is the sufferer doesnt realise it most times.
being over weight is the biggest cause but anybody with a neck larger than 17 is at risk.why i dont know.
johann if you even suspect this applies to you please go see your docter if you have it you will never believe how easy it is to fix and your life will change http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ya'll are great
Aristo


georgio your mom is going to feel great if the c-pap is effective,i hope sincerely it is!!!!

zetareticulan
06-18-2004, 12:21 AM
Very pleased to hear the news Aristo. Very pleased.

If I may, I'll ride on your coat tails just a little longer and mention Deep Vein Thrombosis.

Let's face it, some of us here are of a certain age and we sit in front of computers all day. Then we come home from work and we sit in front of a computer playing Il2 etc.

Just a reminder then, ladies and gents. Stand up every now and then and get that blood circulation flowing. Enough soapbox already.

And Aristo, enjoy sleeping the sleep of the righteous.

TheGozr
06-18-2004, 01:18 AM
Aristo that great!
I have the problem of apnea my self and i don't sleep a lot as well but no peepee problem http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

My hart bit is verylow when in apnea and sometime my wife wake me up to make sure i'm still here.

Great thread, any infos are welcome

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06-18-2004, 01:26 AM
Glad that you got the problem sorted Aristo! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I have a friend that had the exact same problem as you and they operated on his nose which solved the problem completely. They have not mention this possiblilty to you? If you like i can get more detailed information from my friend on what they acctually did.

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JG27_Aristo
06-18-2004, 01:29 AM
they remove your tonsils and the dangly thing in your throat plus any soft tissue.yes its been talked about but it is a painful recovery and we want to try this first combined with weight loss and such

Dawg-of-death
06-18-2004, 01:39 AM
I'm suppose to go to sleep clinic ..........
They think i have that.

I complaned to the doctor about a pain in my ribs. After a MRI then a CAT(not the drivers) scan, They found a spot on my lung. 25 years of smoking I quite the next day LOL. After seeing a Pulmonist(lung doctor)the spot is diagnosted as a scare from flu or bronkidus, not cancer thank God. My wife in talking to the lung doctor says I quit breathing while asleep and I snore alot.

Quiting smoking sucked. Hard to do. Ive quit for over a year now.

I am glad it helped you. I need to go get checked out.
I've put it off....... I should go.

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Mitlov47
06-18-2004, 02:25 AM
How much does one of those c-pap machines cost? My father has sleep apnea. My mother's taken to sleeping in my old room a lot because his snoring is so loud she can't sleep (that REALLY loud snoring people describe). I'd love to be able to call them up and offer a viable solution.

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SeaFireLIV
06-18-2004, 02:35 AM
Very interesting. Didn`t know about this, JG27_Aristo, I`m glad you`re ok.

A friend of mine and his girlfriend are trying to give up smoking. It`s not serious for her, but his health is really suffering - I`ve known him for near 20 years and we`re more or less the same age (2 weeks difference). I can run and jump and even fight, while he can barely go up a stairs without becoming exhausted. He also gets recurring arm/chest pains... I tell you, I`m privately worried.

They last a couple of days and they keep failing. Perhaps he needs a scare like Dawg-of-death`s to make him stop completely.

Spectre-63
06-18-2004, 02:44 AM
Aristo -

thanks for sharing your story...I've often wondered if I have sleep apnea (as have family members...they've described me "snorting" while sleeping) the snoring is worse some nights than others but the "snorting" is a constant...maybe a trip to the doc is in order...

I'm happy this has made such a difference for you, clearly it's something that can be addressed with proper care.

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06-18-2004, 03:41 AM
Close relative of mine just had a heart attack at the age of 36 - he survived - says it all: you gotta get things checked before it's too late - glad you did. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Indianer.
06-18-2004, 03:45 AM
Glad its sorted

Saturation levels of 71% is pretty bad. We get worried when it happens to one of our patients at hospital.


Mind you, what are you gonna do now you feel better?


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F16_txmx
06-18-2004, 03:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG27_Aristo:
they remove your tonsils and the dangly thing in your throat plus any soft tissue.yes its been talked about but it is a painful recovery and we want to try this first combined with weight loss and such<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ouch,yes that doesen't sound very nice. Understand that you try the other way first! Hope all goes well for you!

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06-18-2004, 04:13 AM
Sounds good Aristo. Hope all goes well and you can get some more family time in.

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B16Enk
06-18-2004, 05:47 AM
Good thread http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

'The dangly thing' as my four year old would tell you http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif is called an Epiglotis.

It actually prevents choking! 'Humans have the epiglotis which closes (reflexively) over the trachea when we swallow'.

Sleep apnea, been trying to get my wife to get hers checked out, I'm convinced it's what causes her tiredness.

She's 5'1" and weighs about 98lbs (or so she tells me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) so weight is not the only thing that causes this.

Franzen
06-18-2004, 08:17 AM
Nice to hear you found and solved your problems Aristo. Living in developing countries has shown me how important the quality of life is.

I also have sleep problems but I think that has to do with IL-2 and a nagging wife. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I guess it's time to get rid of the wife. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Thanx for sharing this info though. We, including myself, all need reminders. Know that your thread is already a success. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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06-18-2004, 08:44 AM
Thanks for sharing this and I bet you end up with a couple more kids LOL! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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06-18-2004, 08:49 AM
J...good to hear you got it figured out. Take care bro and we'll see you soon.... I need to get yelled at on TS soon lmao

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JG27_Aristo
06-18-2004, 09:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mitlov47:
How much does one of those c-pap machines cost? My father has sleep apnea. My mother's taken to sleeping in my old room a lot because his snoring is so loud she can't sleep (that REALLY loud snoring people describe). I'd love to be able to call them up and offer a viable solution.

mit my machine is 1500.00 but the prices vary greatly,luckily im blessed with great company insurance which paid for it 100%.you can only get a c-pap machine in the U.S. with a docters order they are regulated just like prescription drugs.just tell your parents to go to their family docter and he or she will make arrangements for a sleep study.if positive for apnea a machine will be arranged.
good luck
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LilHorse
06-18-2004, 10:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by B16Enk:
Good thread http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

'The dangly thing' as my four year old would tell you http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif is called an Epiglotis.

It actually prevents choking! 'Humans have the epiglotis which closes (reflexively) over the trachea when we swallow'.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, the dangly thing is your uvula. Your epiglotis is lower in your throat and caps your wind pipe to prevent choking.

Anyway, sounds good Aristo. My dad had terrible sleep apnea. I'm sure it contributed to his health problems at the end of his life. Good that you caught it soon.

tsisqua
06-18-2004, 01:11 PM
Glad to hear that you will be around for a long time, Aristo. Very happy for ya, and thanks for sharing. (God, that sounded 12-step http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

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Udidtoo
06-18-2004, 01:35 PM
Glad you got that sorted out. My sister and I used to think it was great to sit and listen to my dad take a nap and time how long he would stop breathing.

It stopped being funny when it started happening to me in my teens. I got lucky by accident.

I was playing in the sunday keger football games(few rules, full contact, no pads..think rugby + American football x WWF wrestleing) When I severly injured a fellows knee with my nose.

During reconstructive surgery they took out my adnoids and I have had very little problems since.

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Capt_Pepper
06-18-2004, 05:11 PM
Wow....very courageous post by several of you.
Kudos to you especially Aristo for starting it and to the others that chimed in. Of course, I'm very glad for all those who have been able to get help. May you all live very long and healthy lives.

Reading this reminds me of a very close friend with the same symptoms I'm reading about here. Sadly and unexpectedly, he literally dropped dead at age 29 and I often think about the life he might have had...if only anyone had known.

I guess one of the the points I'd like to take from this is that we are not supermen, even though we sometimes feel we are. It's so important NOT to ignore our problems, as the results of doing so can be truly fatal. Also as someone mentioned, the impact of this kind of tragedy to those around us is equally devastating....if not more so.

Thanks to all of you for a good reminder as to why it's so important keep ourselves healthy and to be thankful for what we have.