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JG52Schatten
07-16-2004, 03:36 PM
Any chance that we might get the option to load-out the Bf109G-6/AS with the 108 nose cannon AND a drop fuel tank for those long-range co-op missions?

JG52Schatten
07-16-2004, 03:36 PM
Any chance that we might get the option to load-out the Bf109G-6/AS with the 108 nose cannon AND a drop fuel tank for those long-range co-op missions?

Wallstein
07-17-2004, 03:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG52Schatten:
Any chance that we might get the option to load-out the Bf109G-6/AS with the 108 nose cannon AND a drop fuel tank for those long-range co-op missions?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would appreciate this very much. Let‚¬īs hope...!

johann_thor
07-18-2004, 10:18 AM
this is a must !

Steaky_361st
07-18-2004, 06:55 PM
Definately! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Steaky

Cossack13
07-18-2004, 06:59 PM
Some loadouts...well actually, ANY loadouts for the 109F would be appreciated!

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LLv34_Flanker
07-19-2004, 02:36 AM
S!

I would say that the solution for the "problem" we have here is that the whole armament selection system would be like in Falcon 4.0 or Aces High or similar. U can pretty much freely choose what to put and where in realistic ways. The system IL2 uses is too limited and offers only a few choices IMHO.

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Fw-190D-9
07-19-2004, 02:43 AM
I say the entire load out thing needs to be fixed. The Fw-190D-9 don't get anything in the way of load outs. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

jagdmailer
07-19-2004, 10:36 AM
Bump for Bf 109F loadouts.....ANY.....

Jagd

OsA_FW
07-20-2004, 07:18 AM
S!

I agree with original poster , same oes for BF109G6_Late ...you can't put mk108 with drop tank ,,,, cccc ...cccc

arming and loadout options are not solved very good in game ... it's too simplistic

hope we will get that option :P

KroatJG1_OsA

D.Gieger
07-22-2004, 02:35 PM
bump for 109s

Rab03
07-22-2004, 02:59 PM
First....a bump!

Agreed - can we have it, please?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OsA_FW:
arming and loadout options are not solved very good in game ... it's too simplistic<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


What do you mean, Wasp http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif? What weapon/loadout options are you not satisfied with. If it's an weapon/loadout combination like the one requested, look at Bf-110 G-2-awsome http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif ! I would like, for instance, an option to specify number of rounds per gun (from 0 to nominal load).

JG52Schatten
07-24-2004, 12:56 PM
Bump again for BF109G-6/AS Mk108 & fuel tank load-out.

Rgrt. F series 109s are REALLY lacking.

JG52Schatten
07-24-2004, 01:00 PM
Hmmm Let me clarify that before someone takes that out of context. By lacking I mean they should at least have capabilities to drop bombs... at least. I find F-series' performance etc is fine overall. Just needs load-out options. Currently they are "Default" or "Empty".

Willey
07-24-2004, 06:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LLv34_Flanker:
S!

I would say that the solution for the "problem" we have here is that the whole armament selection system would be like in Falcon 4.0 or Aces High or similar. U can pretty much freely choose what to put and where in realistic ways. The system IL2 uses is too limited and offers only a few choices IMHO.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bad that it's hard to make... my suggest:

Split it up. One with 20mm, one with 108. Then each one gets proper loadouts with various bomb sizes, counts and types they can carry. And that for all planes. Just an example how a single 190A-5 in FB could be then:

A-5 [18]:
- Standard (all MGs)
- MG 17 + MG 151
- MG 151 + MG FFM
- MG 151
- R1 (ETC-501): SC / SD / AB - 250 / 500 [6]
- R1 (ETC-501): ER-4 4x SC50 / SD70 / AB24t / 24 SD-2 [4]
- R1: 300l Tank
- R6: 2xWGr.21
- /U11: 2x MK 103 [2]*

F-2 [13] (A-5/U3):
- Standard (MG 17 + MG 151, ETC-501, stronger Armor)
- (ETC-501) SC / SD / AB - 250 / 500 [6]
- (ETC-501) SC / AB - 1000 [2]
- (ETC-501) ER-4 4x SC50 / SD70 / AB24t / 24 SD-2 [4]

G-2 [25] (A-5/U8):
- Standard (MG 151, ETC-501, 2x ETC-250?, stronger Armor)
- (ETC-501) SC / SD / AB - 250 / 500 [6]
- (ETC-501) SC / AB - 1000 / PC-1600 / SC-1800 [4]
- (ETC-501) ER-4 4x SC50 / SD70 / AB24t / 24 SD-2 [4]
- Fuselage bombs &lt;= 500kg + 2x 300l Tank [10]

*
with and without cowling MGs

That would a total of 56 selectable loadouts for 3 plane - which is now 1 plane with somewhere between 15-20 or so loadouts.

1. Mission builders would be able to exclude some of them, maybe a mission with just the F-2 jabos. The same would apply to 109s. Imagine maps with 109Gs that have NO 108 because it's just not there anymore http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. There's nothing more unrealistic than everyone having 108s in 43 or even in 42 (110G-2 which actually is a 43 plane).

2. Many more loadouts, and they all make sense. Leave out some guns, either the outer ones, the MGs or even both. No rack. Or be able to select different bomb types. Those little AB24t with 24 SD-2 in them would be a rocker loadout for taking out single, weak targets like those damn Flaks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

I have to add that I want realistic bomb drop procedure... in german planes they were dropped in single mode, anything AFAIK - even WGr.21s. But it was usual to drop 2 or more in a row to ensure a hit. But a good pilot could tweak much out of his plane with single drops. A 110 could carry 4 of those ER-4 racks + 4 single wing racks which makes 20 bombs 50 or 70kg. Another hard loadout the 110G-2 had was up to 1780kg - 2 500s, 2 250s and 4 50/70s. With each of those bombes dropped one by one, that bird would be a tank killer comparable to the Il-2. Imagine: 4 passes alone with those heavy bombs, and then maybe just 2 or even 4 passes with the small bombs not to mention a gunnery job afterwards... How about 4 110G-2? 1: MG-17s + 151s. 2: MG-17s + BK 3.7. 3: MK 108s + 151s. 4: MK 108s + BK 3.7. And each of them with a full bomb list... with the big gun and 2 250s + 4 50/70s it's just a blast of a tank killer http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.