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Paximus14
08-26-2004, 02:47 PM

Paximus14
08-26-2004, 02:47 PM

TASKFORCE1x1
08-26-2004, 03:33 PM
I want to see SHIII have the ability to unlimitly expand. I would like the current dev team to be in charge of this for quality purposes. I would buy DC2 and if they made a Battleship, Merchant, Aircraft carrier sims to inter op with SHIII I would buy them. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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hauitsme
08-26-2004, 11:27 PM
Exactly. To have actual pilots (IL-2) using the Carriers (and coastal bases) with more people controlling the DD's, BB's, CA's, U-Boats, etc. would be just TOO COOL! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/CapSmile.gif

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Capt.LoneRanger
08-26-2004, 11:40 PM
I'd really like to see a DC2. I've played SH2 a lot online, when they were new and it was a LOT more fun playing against human controlled destroyes, than just knowing there was somebody else in a sub in a 12nm radius and see he actually did something, when a ship blows up. You won't communicate much, anyways.
Infact after a while I liked to play DC more than SH3 online. It was just so much fun to show these guys that shooting a destroyed from dead front was useless, if the destroyer made slight evasive maneuvers. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif

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Paximus14
08-27-2004, 12:01 AM
LoneRanger, I'm not saying scuttle DC2, rather release it as an expansion to SH3 so that it lowers the cost of buying a new game to buying an upgrade to a current one we own, and also it consolidates what would be two games into one nice package. This will also streamline the process for multiplay capability. I don't have the time to play two games, so I'd much rather DC2 and SH3 be one game. If anything, if DC2 is created then I'd say at least have an "upgrade" version available to SH3 owners that melds DC2 into SH3, along with a stand alone DC2 that non-SH3 owners can buy. I'd rather consumers be required to buy SH3 to get the destroyer expansion, because who WOULDN'T want to get this game?

hauitsme
08-27-2004, 12:49 AM
How about all the people who don't care at all about subs? Why should they be forced to buy a sub game then have to buy a ship game just to play the ship? How many thousands of them are there? Even as an add-on you still would need to learn a new game (surface ships are a lot different than subs!). And as a stand-alone game, it just might interest that many more to try out against us submariners!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/CapSmile.gif

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Shan_Hackett
08-27-2004, 02:14 AM
If SH3 is a financal success, then Ubi should do what they r currently doing with IL2 FB.
creating what is essentialy a stand-alone package (Pacific Fighters.) that a customer can use on it's own, "Or" if they have IL2FB, combine it and use the product like an expansion.

U1409
08-27-2004, 02:52 AM
Subs, and therefore SH3, is my main interest. But I voted for them to create DC2, because a WWII destroyer simulation would certainly attract my interest too. And I would prefer they made it a standalone product with a big singleplayer element, because I do not play much multiplayer. But of course, multiplayer between destroyer and submarine should be possible.

Capt.LoneRanger
08-27-2004, 06:04 AM
@ Paximus14

Sure, I understand you. But you gotta have in mind, that these things are buisiness. Do you really think they'd give a new sim away for the cost of an addon, or even as a free patch, when they can sell it for the full price?
Don't think so, and actually, as this is not, what was called here, a "financial success", I'd rather buy a full DC2-game and see an ongoing support for both games.

Besides that, DC2 should not be a program designed to fight subs in SH3 alone, but a naval-sim itself. I'm definately more interested in a naval sim, protecting convoys against AI-subs, the Graf Spee or something, than just have the option to choose a destroyer instead of the usuall German U-Boot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Paximus14
08-27-2004, 01:53 PM
I have doubts about how truly large the surface-ship sim community really is. Being that there wasn't really a surface ship sim out there recently besides destroyer command, it's hard to distinguish this market in my opinion. Besides, weren't the majority of Destroyer Command buyers SH2 owners or subsim enthusiasts?

I can understand how it would be less profitable in the minds of business owners to scrap the production of another title in support of expanding a current one. That's why my second choice would be to go ahead and make Destroyer Command 2, but release an "upgrade" version for SH3 owners that basically melds DC2 into SH3. I personally would like to see SH3 grow into a large scale digital battlefield for multiplayer with controllable subs, DD's, aircraft, BB's, carriers, etc.

Erich Hartmann
08-27-2004, 03:13 PM
Everybody has a good point. But what is really, but really important, no matter if they decide to make DC2 a separate game or not, the most important thing is that they make expansions for SH3. They can create possibly with a "financial succes" a series of expansions like Il2 and we would have an expansion with more types of U-boats, more ports, maby simulate as a bonus some WW1 U-boat, but to be improving the original game like Il2. Also it would be the coolest thing to have real players in everithing the game has (aircraft, carriers, battleships, destroyers, U-boats of course, etc). I hope they work on making a patch or something to put together Il2, SH3 and other games that appear.

Paximus14
08-27-2004, 03:33 PM
I don't know if they can patch IL2 with SH3, because the engines are different. One thing we know for sure is that if DC2 is made, it will be built off the SH3 engine for maximum compatability and integration between the two. This is good for multiplay, but if SH3 users want to do the destroyer part for just multiplayer, then they have to go and shell out $50 for DC2. This is why I created this poll, to see how many people really want to spend the extra time and money invested in getting another naval sim where it may be a better option for all parties involved - devteam and community - to go with expansions to SH3 that the community buys. I would rather SH3 evolve over the next couple years into a very rich and full-featured game than it be left for Destroyer Command 2 to stand on its shoulders.

Besides, the gaming companies know that simulations are a risky genre to invest in, especially the investment that Ubi has apparently put into SH3. We all here can say with some assuredness that SH3 will be very successful sales wise, so I think that staying with SH3 with expansion packs instead of risking another sim which may flop might actually be the more profitable option.

[This message was edited by Paximus14 on Fri August 27 2004 at 03:27 PM.]

hauitsme
08-27-2004, 11:59 PM
I've said it before and I guess I'm going to have to keep on saying it. With all the additions people want, it is just what everyone should be clamoring for, that is a COMPLETE EDITOR. Let the DevTeam spend their time and energy on making a NEW DC2, and let anyone who wants to add something new to SH3 make it themselves (what do you think the modders could do with one!) How many thousands of items could be added/changed/tweaked ?

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Drebbel
08-29-2004, 04:17 AM
I would like to see a surface sim that can be used to multiplay together with Silent Hunter III. And if they are smart they will also include Battleships and Carriers. Having a carrier around with player operated aircraft would be awesome. If incorporating a full flightsim can not be done it would be a good option that the player can send planes away for certain tasks like scouting or attacking a sighted U-boat.

But I do not expect Silent Hunter III owners to get a full upgrade, just make the files available to allow interaction with SHIII would be enough for me. Skimmers just need to buy the full product, just as was the case with Destroyer Command.


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TASKFORCE1x1
08-29-2004, 05:18 AM
I would like to see that also Drebble. I would purchase many SHIII inter-opable sims to go with SHIII. I saw something witnessed from the 9thflotilla's site that they can switch the cam to go inside an aircraft. Their message read something like this--


QUOTE from 9teuflottille.de (http://www.9teuflottille.de/site/news/review/sh3-gc2004_en.html)
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It is possible to place the camera inside the attacking plane which allows the player to virtually take place inside an aircraft, it's pretty much like playing IL-2. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Drebbel
08-29-2004, 09:52 AM
WTH is Drebble ??? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

hauitsme
08-29-2004, 05:36 PM
Quote: WTH is Drebble ???

Hey, at least it wasn't Dribble!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hauitsme/Drooling.gif

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SailorSteve
08-29-2004, 10:14 PM
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macker33
08-30-2004, 12:59 PM
On the financial side of things destroyer command 2 will be a lot cheaper than silent hunter 3 to make,
if the developers absolutely make sure the world engine in sh3 is good there is no reason why they cant use the engine over and over again,look at ms flight sim,we might get the same thing going for silent hunter but better.

Paximus14
08-31-2004, 04:48 PM
With MS Flight Sim they stuck with the same sim and kept on improving upon it. I think the majority of the community wants this with SH3. I'd rather have expansions into the Pacific theatre and more multiplayer options for SH3 than have the devteam leave SH3 behind and develop Destroyer Command 2.

macker33
08-31-2004, 09:52 PM
All they have to do to make a destroyer command 2 is give us destroyers to fly instead of subs,most of the work would have been done.

I would rather have a stand alone destroyer command game instead of a destroyer addon,it would make more sense for the dev teamto make dc2 a stand alone product,a lot of times i wanted to buy a game but couldnt because it was an addon and needed the origional game to play it,one lost sale there straight away.You more or less pay the same for an addon disk as you would a full game anyway,

Get the engine right and they can just churn out the titles,and i'm going to buy every one.

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