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73GIAP_Milan
02-21-2004, 03:26 PM
Hi,

I'm quite an offline il2 vet. and only recently i fly online on Hyperlobby...

my first fav. and a good starting a/c is the LA5FN, and i can fight/fly reasonably in it..
A few days ago, in a testrun with a few of my squadmembers, i took the MIG3U up for a spin, while my squadmembers were still using the LA5FN...i came out victorious in this tryout..

Is the Mig3U also good in a real online airbattle (no wonderwomanview, full real IL2, not FB) ?? I like it's flight characteristics and it has a bigger ammoload than the la5fn, and i hit A LOT more when flying in my mig3u..only it's speed is less, but it's turning is FAR better on lower altitudes...

can anyone give me a decent opionion on using the Mig3U online? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thx,

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73GIAP_Milan
02-21-2004, 03:26 PM
Hi,

I'm quite an offline il2 vet. and only recently i fly online on Hyperlobby...

my first fav. and a good starting a/c is the LA5FN, and i can fight/fly reasonably in it..
A few days ago, in a testrun with a few of my squadmembers, i took the MIG3U up for a spin, while my squadmembers were still using the LA5FN...i came out victorious in this tryout..

Is the Mig3U also good in a real online airbattle (no wonderwomanview, full real IL2, not FB) ?? I like it's flight characteristics and it has a bigger ammoload than the la5fn, and i hit A LOT more when flying in my mig3u..only it's speed is less, but it's turning is FAR better on lower altitudes...

can anyone give me a decent opionion on using the Mig3U online? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thx,

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Hunde_3.JG51
02-21-2004, 03:35 PM
IMO the Mig-3U is easily one of the top 3 planes in the '42 planeset, if not the best. Flying it like a 109 yields great results.

The problem is I hate to see it on servers because only 6 planes were actually built and to be honest I don't believe it performed nearly as well as it does in FB. It's still a good plane, even in the '43 planeset. But like I said, I think it may be the most overmodelled plane in FB. It does everything well and it is FAST for a '42 aircraft. It clearly out-performs the 190A-4 which I'm not buying. I'm sure others will disagree, this is just my opinion.

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VW-IceFire
02-21-2004, 03:44 PM
No idea about the Mig-3U really...it was used in combat but only in small numbers (6 apparently). Even so...some people seem to like it...but I rarely see it being flown.

Does it outperform the FW190 A-5? If I remember correctly, the A-4's sent to the Eastern Front had downrated engines (the Western Front ones were meant to go up against Spitfires and higher rated). The A-5 had no such problem...

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73GIAP_Milan
02-21-2004, 03:50 PM
Well, i play IL2 Sturmovik ONLY, so no FB and in trainingsessions i organize with my squad i outperform them time after time..they ALL fly the LA5FN...

i never had the chance to try it online...
on the other hand, OFFLINE, i could even win from those dreaded I-153(P) Chaika's (i regret that i cannot fly those in il2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) and from quite a few bf109's, different versions...

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Hunde_3.JG51
02-21-2004, 05:07 PM
Icefire, it will hang with a FW-190A-5, speeds are fairly close. I've caught up to them online in the A-5 but it takes awhile and that is with rad closed, manual prop-pitch, etc. In the A-4 forget it. The Mig-3U probably climbs better than the A-5, it turns better, it rolls pretty fast, has great visibility, and maintains energy better IMO. Like I said, it is a good plane even in the '43 planeset, but I'm still not buying it. Again, just my opinion.

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georgeo76
02-21-2004, 05:34 PM
I've been playing w/ the Mig3U little, and find it to be a good early war VVS fighter. It's novelty is that it can stand toe to toe w/ the LW using their own tactics.

It is fast, preforms well in extreme angle of attack (at higher speed), and can (Zoom)climb rather well. Mig3U armament is devastating. The Mig3U can use it's weight to dive in on bandits and escape using spectacular Zoom climbs. That same weight becomes a hindrance @ lower speeds however.

Low down the Mig3U becomes a little clumsy, but above 4K the Mig is comparable in vertical and horizontal maneuvers w/ the 109 and 190. The only problem is that the LW can out-dive (and thus out-zoom climb) The Mig at any altitude sufficient to reach over 600 km/hr. Similar to the La5, the Mig3U suffers from difficult elevator controls at higher speeds. This allows LW to out-maneuver the usually more nimble Mig3U when both aircraft exceed 450 km/hr. The Mig's aversion to high speed also makes gunnery a little more difficult on this otherwise stable gun-platform.

It's a shame the airframe wasn't built stronger. I'd really love to see what the Mig series could do w/ a good high speed characteristic.

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p1ngu666
02-21-2004, 05:37 PM
they had a very good combat record, i like it alot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
i dunno if its overmodeled, cos i dont have any info onit http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Thrawn888
02-21-2004, 05:38 PM
i find the mig3u a good plane aside from being a soaked gas rag, i find it to be the best high altitude soviet plane from the 42 set if not all sets, good plane overall.

Kwiatos
02-21-2004, 05:42 PM
Mig 3u have no chance in turn fight or vertical fight with all bf except E. Alhouth is fast had meduim climb rate and very good roll rate. At high speed has very weak control. I read that Mig3 above 5 km has better turn rate than bf expecialy at high speed so we dont have it in FB http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
BTW i like flying Mig expecialy 3U http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and i like much more flying bf http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

willyvic
02-21-2004, 09:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwiatos:
Mig 3u have no chance in turn fight or vertical fight with all bf except E. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Beg to differ. But that's just my opinion.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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TheGozr
02-21-2004, 10:05 PM
The mig U is great just becarefull at high speed it doesn't want to react that good( elevators ).
Great low and mid air fighter.
The Mig can be a fantastic turner when you know it well.
The stall on that baby is n advantage i think.
Very well controllable. If you use it well you'll find that no many planes can fallow you in tite turn mountains.
Great cockpit view too.

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AIRMIKEY
02-21-2004, 10:26 PM
I love the 3U...It is a great energy fighter...I find that if I can enter an engagement with at least a 500 meter altitude advantage , I can usually kick a little booty. It is very good in the vertical for me, again I have to keep an alt advantage and extend like heck if you lose it...It is very difficult for me to beat a well flown P39 however...I just can't seem to turn with the P39..

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willyvic
02-21-2004, 10:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AIRMIKEY:
I love the 3U...It is a great energy fighter...I find that if I can enter an engagement with at least a 500 meter altitude advantage , I can usually kick a little booty. It is very good in the vertical for me, again I have to keep an alt advantage and extend like heck if you lose it...It is very difficult for me to beat a well flown P39 however...I just can't seem to turn with the P39..

Airmikey<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I find that pulling the nose around with full rudder, combat flaps, and just a bit of opposite aileron gets her turned pretty quick. But I'm riding the stall buffet just about all the way through the turn.

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73GIAP_Milan
02-22-2004, 08:45 AM
Well, i still get the idea that the Mig3u in IL2 is a bit undermodeled...i can't get the stated topspeed @ sealevel...at full throttle + boost, fully trimmed @ 75% fuel i get it to 460Km/u it should be able to get to 550..

also the energy bleeds of REAL fast at lower altitudes and it becomes more a turnfighter..imho the power to weight ratio is undermodeled...it accelerates really slow, but it's stall is really relaxed..quickly recoverable, and that is a real advantage when playing online i think, since most DF's are fought on low altitudes...

i prefer the mig3u more and more over the la5fn, i still find myself rather often "fighting the stick" than putting up a decent dogfight in the la5fn..

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CzechTexan
02-22-2004, 10:23 AM
At first I was skeptical about flying the MiG-3 (early versions) because it was said not to perform well at lower altitudes. But now, I really like flying it because it does better than I thought it would. Makes me wonder if maybe it is a bit over-modelled. Anyhow, I love flying the MiG and I've created several single player missions. I just need a place to upload to.

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p1ngu666
02-22-2004, 01:23 PM
send em to me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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LEXX_Luthor
02-22-2004, 01:49 PM
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