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Snoop_Baron
03-28-2004, 11:55 PM
I'm sending this to Oleg's bug address right now. But I'm also posting it here incase anyone else want's to take a look or comment.

I've uploaded track files to my website demonstrating this bug here:

www.snoopbaron.com/P51ExplodeBug.zip (http://www.snoopbaron.com/P51ExplodeBug.zip)

Here are my notes from the read me file:

Track files demonstrating a bug that causes all P51 models to explode when pulled out of a dive with flaps on and 25% fuel when the plane starts to shake.

Each explode track first does the dive with out the flaps and the plane does not explode. I apply full back preasure on each dive. I'm not using any special trimp "cheats" just pull the stick all the way back. Then I do the same dive but with flaps and the P51 explodes.

When I did the same tests with 100% fuel the P51 would not blow up with or without flaps. This probably explains why some testers could not get the P51 to blow up as it only blew up when I took 25% fuel.

I think there might be other ways to get it to blow up but this was any easy way to repeate it each time.

As a counter example I took the FW190D9 1944 (what I call my German P51 ) and did the same tests with 25% fuel the plane did not blow up.

Thanks,
Snoop

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Snoop_Baron
03-28-2004, 11:55 PM
I'm sending this to Oleg's bug address right now. But I'm also posting it here incase anyone else want's to take a look or comment.

I've uploaded track files to my website demonstrating this bug here:

www.snoopbaron.com/P51ExplodeBug.zip (http://www.snoopbaron.com/P51ExplodeBug.zip)

Here are my notes from the read me file:

Track files demonstrating a bug that causes all P51 models to explode when pulled out of a dive with flaps on and 25% fuel when the plane starts to shake.

Each explode track first does the dive with out the flaps and the plane does not explode. I apply full back preasure on each dive. I'm not using any special trimp "cheats" just pull the stick all the way back. Then I do the same dive but with flaps and the P51 explodes.

When I did the same tests with 100% fuel the P51 would not blow up with or without flaps. This probably explains why some testers could not get the P51 to blow up as it only blew up when I took 25% fuel.

I think there might be other ways to get it to blow up but this was any easy way to repeate it each time.

As a counter example I took the FW190D9 1944 (what I call my German P51 ) and did the same tests with 25% fuel the plane did not blow up.

Thanks,
Snoop

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NegativeGee
03-29-2004, 09:33 AM
Thanks for posting the tracks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Okay, now I see what you mean about blowing up P-51's in dive pullouts. I can get the same result as well now.

I was watching the explosions on your tracks and a few of my own. I slowed the time down and let the replay go in short segments using pause.

I noticed that a fraction of a second before the plane disintergrates one wing fails and breaks off the plane. This happens on all your tracks and those I made.

I'm not sure if this is "realisic" or not, bearing in mind you are pulling up as much as the elevators will allow, and using combat flaps at 750-810(ish)km/h, but yeah it happens.

I wonder if the lower fuel load allows the plane to turn more tightly, and pull higher-g causing the wing to break?

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Snoop_Baron
03-29-2004, 10:10 AM
I don't know but the explosion does happen before much or any black out occurs so I don't think I was pulling that many Gs, but u might be on to something. It doesn't happen with other aircraft and I think I can get it to happen without even pulling fullback. Last time I got the mustang to blow up I wasn't even using combat flaps but I couldn't get that to happen again. I am not an expert on airplanes but it doesn't happen to any other plane and it does seem pretty weird to me. I sent it to Oleg and I hope they can verify it as a bug and fix in a patch.

s!

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FA_Whisky
03-30-2004, 08:51 AM
Try is with fireing your guns http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif also makes it happen faster.

CaptainGelo
03-30-2004, 11:04 AM
same happens with many other planes, try BG109K4 dive and pull up with trim,,,u'll get BOOM! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

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Snoop_Baron
03-30-2004, 11:53 AM
No need to use trim to get this to happen and it's not even blacking out!

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