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XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 01:37 AM
I Really Miss my old Trans-Am any one else have one they sold and regret it. Mine was blue 1978 with a 400 ci Pontiac. Perfect condition. all options Wish I never sold that car
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Van Elvis

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 01:37 AM
I Really Miss my old Trans-Am any one else have one they sold and regret it. Mine was blue 1978 with a 400 ci Pontiac. Perfect condition. all options Wish I never sold that car
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Thankya Thankya very much
Van Elvis

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 01:46 AM
nice skin.
whatc with that sig pic, there are some limitations...

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XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 01:51 AM
Whats that mean is this the Ed Sullivan show.

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Van Elvis

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 02:06 AM
Just buy another one, Van. It's not like it was a '74 Super Duty, there are tons of '78 T/As around. Pick up a copy of Hemmings Motor News and pick one out.

I still have my '70 GS convertible, so I don't miss my '78 Firebird Formula too much. It had the WS6 suspension from the factory and man could that car handle. The 305 was a dog, but I didn't have to slow down that much once I got going.

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 02:24 AM
I had a 78 firebird With a 305 and a 4 speed saginaw. It wasnt a stock motor. It was pretty quick. Not as fast as the T/A though.

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Van Elvis

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08-08-2003, 02:31 AM
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XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 02:41 AM
Yes We Are HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Van Elvis

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 04:18 AM
Hey! I'm sorry for you man /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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08-08-2003, 02:07 PM
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08-08-2003, 02:09 PM
That Yak don't shine like the glossy coating of a TransAm.

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08-08-2003, 02:16 PM
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XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 02:18 PM
I miss my 67 goat. But i do have an 84 TA if you want buy it lol.

May you not become a dirt torpedo.

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XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 03:02 PM
I've always loved 2nd gen. F-cars. My first car was a '74 Camaro with a 327. It was hit by a deer.
I've got two weeks to get my '81 Z28 back on the road before I go off to school. I've got to do some milling on a pair of L31 Vortec heads to make 'em fit the 400. I'm tired of auto's, so my T-10 is going back in.

My brother has a '78 Trans Am if you want a "project." It was a parts car, but its mostly all there, sort of. I know of a couple of mid '70s Trans Ams for sale. Both have 400s, one has a 4-speed. Interested in a project?

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08-08-2003, 03:18 PM
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XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 08:32 PM
I have a cool ride now its a 2002 Monte Carlo Pace Car. But I loved that Trans AM.
The Monte looks just like this one.
http://www.wolfauto.com/yellowmontecarlo.jpg


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Thankya Thankya very much
Van Elvis

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 08:38 PM
Very cool skin!

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 08:42 PM
Yes, those are all great cars but I think that most of them were over-modelled, particularly in acceleration from a standing start. I have documentation that shows that the Trams AM you owned was really only capable of doing the 1/4 mile in 14.6 seconds, not 14.4. I plan to start a whine post
to complain to the developers so they can patch the cars performance some.

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 08:57 PM
vanelvis wrote:
- I have a cool ride now its a 2002 Monte Carlo Pace
- Car.

Is that the one with the 3.8 blown to 240hp?

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 09:06 PM
I miss my '66 Corvette Stingray too....

Oh wait... no, I still have it. And it runs like a dream.


Muhahahahahahaha

LONG LIVE CHEVY!

UN

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 09:07 PM
DAMN PIG OF AN ENGINE IN ALL OF THOSE TRANS-AMS.

I'm sorry for your loss, but it is sort of a POS.

lil'

XyZspineZyX
08-08-2003, 09:51 PM
RCAF_lilseed wrote:
- DAMN PIG OF AN ENGINE IN ALL OF THOSE TRANS-AMS.
-
- ...it is sort of a POS.

Which engine? The RA series? The SD & HO 455's? The T/A-spec 400? The 403 Olds? 301 or 301 Turbo maybe?
Have you got a problem with torque?

Why do you think it a POS? (Seriously)

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 12:35 AM
400 series. Stock with a whopping 290 horses. Please. I'll take MOPAR any day of the week.

A 70 challenger would eat that car. 440 6-pack came stock with 390 horses.

If I wanted to look like Burt Reynolds I'd buy a hair piece, they're cheaper.

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 01:30 AM
three points on the '70 440-6 versus the '78 400-4:

1) after 1971 hp figures were rated at net hp, not gross, which means that the engine was rated for power with all accesories and power robbing devices attached after 1971. before that, it was rated from a dyno test stand. That 390 hp rated at net hp would be around 350 hp. then add the emissions equipment to the 440-6 that the T/A had to have to meet federal law requirements, and drop another few hp for that...then drop another few hp for the 440-6 because of lower compression heads and smaller valves, made necessary by 1978 because of lower octane and unleaded gas, then reduce carb cfm to accomadate de-tuning the engine, and your "powerhouse" 440-6 is down to about...300 hp.

here's a 1970 Spec Pontiac 400 Ram Air IV's ratings:
370 hp, 445 lbs/ft torque, 10.5:1 compression

here's a later 455 from Pontiac, after the new way to rate performance:

250 hp, 290 lb/ft torque, 8.0:1 compression.

That engine was earlier rated at up to 360 hp and 500 lbs/ft or torque.

Here's a 440-4 barrel from '72:

280 hp, 375 lbs/ft torque, 8.2:1 compression


You can't directly compare one engine from '78 to another from '70, using dis-similar testing criteria, to argue which engine is better. The rating system was changed after 1970, but your 'comparison' ignore the point. Put the engines on a level playing field and then compare, please. Either use net figures for both or gross figures for both, do not mix and match rating systems, because it will skew the results of the comparison horribly.



2) the car manufacturers were notorious liars about how much hp their engines made, and even if the engine was really available as tested. Sure, that 440-6 made 390 horses, on a dyno, with controlled airflow and tubular headers, after numeruous engine pulls to determine where the engine could make more power. The 440-6 you GOT in the car wouldn't make that much hp in the car. It couldn't. For one thing, the carb had a velocity stack about 10" high on the dyno, and for another, on the dyno, it ran with tubular headers and no mufffler.


3) if manufactuer's rated HP figures are the only criteria to be used, why would you choose MOPAR, anyway? The highest rated musclecar of the era was documentably the 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS with the LS6 optioned 454 cubic inch engine, rated at a whopping 450 horsepwer.


So by your own rules, a '70 Chevelle LS6 would eat your MOPAR alive.

Of course, raw horsepower means nothing without the proper gear, power band, and traction.


a 1970 Buick GS with the Stage1 455 was clocked, in 1970, at 13.38 seconds at 105.5 mph in the quarter mile [Motor Trend magazine, January 1970 - do not forget that cars were built in advance of the calendar year, my '70 GS was built in the second week of November 1969], in factory-stock trim, on tires that were fibreglass belted. The engine was rated at "only" 360 hp (Buick engineers claim that this hp figure was a "true" un-inflated figure using stock parts on a dyno equipped with headers), and the car weighed about 3900 pounds. How did it go so fast? It had enough hp to keep it going really fast...and it had 510 lb/feet of torque to get the ball rolling in the first place. Do not forget torque- it makes hp possible in the first place (hp is a measure of work done over time, the thing that is used to determine hp is our old buddy Torque http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )


HP ain't King. Usable power (not horsepower alone, and not torque alone) in the proper rpm range to take advantage of gearing is.



[wow is this thread off topic]



RCAF_lilseed wrote:
- 400 series. Stock with a whopping 290 horses.
- Please. I'll take MOPAR any day of the week.
-
- A 70 challenger would eat that car. 440 6-pack came
- stock with 390 horses.
-
- If I wanted to look like Burt Reynolds I'd buy a
- hair piece, they're cheaper.
-
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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 01:39 AM
Oh, I should have mentioned: I know a thing or three about musclecars http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I've been into studying, owning, and restoring them for the last 14 years.

BBB462cid stands for:

Big Block Buick, 462 Cubic Inch Displacement- my Buick 455 is bored 0.030" over, giving a displacement of 462 cid, or just a hair over 7.5 liters.
My car "only" has about 340 hp. It also goes like a scalded cat. I know a guy with an identical car with a better cam and heads that does an 11.99 second quarter mile at just over 110 mph on DOT tires with a 3.64:1 rear end gear.

He makes LITTLE bit more power than I do, lol



BACK ON TOPIC:

Howsabout somebody making a '70 GSX skin for a few Il*2 planes??? Yellow or White, your choice!


Message Edited on 08/09/0301:42AM by BBB462cid

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 02:28 AM
Doesn't this thread Does seem a bit Off Topic???!!....

However, I'm a bit b o r e d waiting for the patch...Which I KNOW will be a superpatch.

So, I am Not a "Power car" type....In fighter aircraft terms, I would have preferred a Spitfire or a Bf109 to a P47, for example...it's all about agility and Class, imho!

So, here we go:
I miss:
My:



1957 Chevy BelAir, bought in 1959(lowered with skirts and continental kit, in that turqoise color so popular back then for some reason)....while in high school.
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1964 Corvette Stingray,bought new (365HP,sky blue,etc)...while in college
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1963ish MG Midget,bought used (tiny car, Sporty!..while in Japan/Okinawa
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1968 Honda S800 sports car, bought new (Bluish Grey,Not exportable to US)..while in Japan
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1969ish Jaguar XKE roadster coupe, bought new (V6, 4.2 liter,Steel Grey)...while in the USA, Texas
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1976 Fiat X1/9, bought new, while in USA Virginia (another Tiny sports car,mid-engine, lots of fun,in the tradition of a small MG, rusty-maroonish color)http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/wi/wileycoyote2/Fiatx19.jpg


1989 Mazda RX7, bought new, while in USA, Wash DC and Colorado(White, now has 200,000Plus miles and runs Great, belongs to daughter....A Classic car, end of its style-line classic)
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/wi/wileycoyote2/RX7.jpg

1986 Mazda RX7, bought used...Died of a blown engine...'Nuff said about That piece of cr*p!! Never buy a used car!!! At least, Never buy a used sports/racing type car... [Not worth a picture!]

And now, I end up with a super little FOUR-Seater, believe it or not!!!
But still only a two-door and quite sporty, nonetheless, for an Old Man:
2001 Subaru Impreza RS2.5
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[Some pictures are in the wrong color because they are representative only...I either have no pictures of MY autos or they are in the possession of my ex-wife....]


<sigh>

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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 04:03 PM
No '60s Lotus, Herr Colonel?!

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 04:37 AM
Odd!! For an admittedly Off Topic thread, which I did NOT start, I'm surprised that I seem to have Killed it??!!! With just ONE post of mine???!

I thought I'd get a response from all the POWER car folks!! Trans Ams and Camaros and 600HP Ford Whatever cars, all those things, usually tacky-gold in color, with eagles or other stuff painted on the hoods, etc, etc... Totally without class...



This Should be, after all, a thread that pits the P47-types against the Bf109-types, the theoretical Lagg's against the Spitfires, the brute Hellcat versus the nimble Zero, etc, etc...

Power versus Agility, Brute Force against Class...

It's like Budweiser versus a Dom Perignon... IMHO

Any other opinions out there???




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XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 05:12 AM
OberstWiley I completely agree with your comment on the eagles on the bloody hood of the car,

Also, with respect to the chevelle --- sure sure great engine and damn fast car. This is not a trans-am. Please people let's not forget the first stock car to break 200 mph was a mopar.

Bottom line --- chevy people are freaks, especially if they're braggin about trans-am's and camaro's. Corvette is something different nowadays, but then was not even comparable.

sigh.

lil'

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 06:42 AM
Here is one of my last souveniers of my youth. Yes, I still own it and it is the source of my online "handle"

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XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 01:50 PM
OberstWiley wrote:
- I thought I'd get a response from all the POWER
- car folks!! Trans Ams and Camaros and 600HP Ford
- Whatever cars, all those things, usually tacky-gold
- in color, with eagles or other stuff painted on the
- hoods, etc, etc... Totally without class...
-
- Any other opinions out there???

Requested response:
To those of us serious about performance, the stereotypical pony car driver image is just a neccessary evil of driving the cars. I see the F-cars as realatively light weight (unit construction), easy to modify (a multitude of GM engines and transmissions bolt in), and accomadating to us folks that measure 6' 5" and don't want to "assume the position" to drive.
As for class, there are some steps in the right direction one can take with F-cars. A little RPO called "Exterior Ornamentation Delete" helps clean up the car. Also the hood birds are not "eagles," they're "Screaming Chickens."
Please don't try to pretend that there are not cars with class out there that people have done up tackily. Finally, st0ck is a swear word. Anyone who compares cars with the stock advertized horsepower specs must be into MoPars. Sheesh!

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 03:35 PM
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XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 04:00 PM
I once heard that owning one of those cars made a certain part of the male anatomy grow two inches.

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 04:11 PM
- DAMN PIG OF AN ENGINE IN ALL OF THOSE TRANS-AMS.
-
- I'm sorry for your loss, but it is sort of a POS.
-
- lil'
-
-
I did not think it was a pig of an engine. It could shift gears standing still while both rear tires were putting off lots of smoke. Rear tires were 10 1/2 inches in tread each. with a 3.29 positraction rear end. the car could also squeak the rear tires shifting into 3rd gear at 70mph. If that is a pig of a motor then I would love to see what you have. Of cource it was not all stock. The only thing that was done to it was Headers with true dual exaust. The cataletic converter was gone and the shaker hood was modified. The plastic plate on the shaker hood was removed and a metal screen mesh was put on in its place.

The car was loud, loud looking far to fast and totaly Impractical. Thats what I loved about it.

The thing about the Trans am that I had was it had a 400 Pontiac engine and they had 35 more Hp that the 403 Olds motor that a lot of the 1978 Trans am had. It had every option you could get for that year except for the Black and Gold (bandit) Anaversery Edition. It Was a pretty Blue Metalic and had light blue cloth interior. It had the bird on the hood and all the badging on the side and back. It also had Crager ss rims with the 3 point spinner caps and chrome traction bars underneth also had Goodyear Egale S/T solid white letter tires with 10 1/2 inch treed width on all 4 wheels. The car was simply Beutiful. I sold it in 1998 because I could not afford to store it out of the winter that year. The car was a classic and I could not even consider letting it sit out in the snow. It had 56k original when I sold it and I interviewed the couple that bought it before I would agree to sell it to them. I still had the original dealer window sticker with the option list in a envelope.




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XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 04:24 PM
It looked just like this one. Same color same Badging Mine had T tops and differant wheels and tires. Still had original wheels in the garage.
http://www.classicdreamcars.com/A21.JPG


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XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 07:19 PM
Very nice in blue. Mine is a clone of this one:

Or for the one arguing about BB and poor perfs, T/A 1973 clokced 13.5 stock at the quater mile ... not bad for a early victim of the emissions regulations /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 08:16 PM
Here are the engine specs for the 2 most powerful plants available for the '78 T/A.

cu/in code carb hp/rpm tq/rpm bore/stroke compression
8-400 L78 4bbl 180@3600 325@1600 4.12 x 3.75 7.7:1
8-400 W72 4bbl 220@4000 340@1700 4.12 x 3.75 8.1:1

The baddest (W72/WS6) T/A ran 15.2 in the quarter, which for 1978 was really quick. Of course if you had a DKM T/A of which there were only 202 were built, you should cry if you sold it.

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 08:32 PM
If you can prove to me them cars can fly I'll unlock this thread. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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