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|CoB|_Spectre
04-19-2004, 02:23 AM
I couldn't log into il2skins.com yesterday and this morning, when I did, I clicked on "Manage My Skins" and the number of skins downloaded was less than it was 2 days ago. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

|CoB|_Spectre
04-19-2004, 02:23 AM
I couldn't log into il2skins.com yesterday and this morning, when I did, I clicked on "Manage My Skins" and the number of skins downloaded was less than it was 2 days ago. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

christopher65
04-19-2004, 02:33 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
yeah-kept asking me to register.Alrady done that.Would download all of file so had to repeat.

|CoB|_Spectre
04-19-2004, 09:19 AM
I hope it's a short term thing. What with so many instances of people hacking sites and DoS attacks, I get a bit concerned when a great site like il2skins.com exhibits something unusual in its normal operation.

FW190fan
04-19-2004, 09:31 AM
Not having any problems with it now.

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg

wayno7777
04-19-2004, 10:44 AM
Yesterday I got a maintenance note to wait 5 minutes. Went back a little later and all was fine. No problems today.

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LeadSpitter_
04-19-2004, 11:15 AM
I went to go look and the sites not loading up for me, hopefulyl sharx is just adding some new changes or cleaning some things up and its down for just a bit.

Recently he said il2skins will become a historical only skins site, hes going to need to do that especially with PF down the road.

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|CoB|_Spectre
04-19-2004, 01:48 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
...Recently he said il2skins will become a historical only skins site, hes going to need to do that especially with PF down the road. QUOTE]

I was told by a high number of skins contributor that only those the author submitted as "historical, near perfect" were pictured on the most recent skin uploaded section of the homepage. As to whether the skin is actually drawn from a historical paintscheme is apparently not as important has putting it under that classification so the artist can showcase his work and have good intial exposure for increased download count. You see some pretty wild paintschemes on the homepage that obviously are NOT historical. Sharx must know this, but it's hard to tell if his quote is a lamentation of what it's turned into or a statement of policy to be adopted.

Steaky_361st
04-19-2004, 02:25 PM
Ive been getting horrible download speeds from there lately...Anywhere from 8 kbs - 50 kbs...Just on that site, everywhere else is fine.


Steaky

FW190fan
04-19-2004, 02:32 PM
That site is almost too successful for it's own good apparently http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

I know I'm hooked.

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg

SKULLS Virga
04-19-2004, 02:37 PM
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, steve@inet-technologies.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Apache/1.3.29 Server at www.il2skins.com (http://www.il2skins.com) Port 80



This is all I get since this morning.

EDIT: I just clicked on the link in this post and it opened right up. Maybe the link in Bearcats' essentials thread is not working?

Taylortony
04-19-2004, 02:43 PM
The site has been undergoing some maintenance, the main reasoning behind some of the probems is the site has moved servers and as such is suffering some teething problems at the moment, Sharxs has also been implementing some enhancememnts like report skins if in wrong grouping etc......Bare with him after all it is a stunning site and a one man private venture at that, supported by Donations but a lot of it coming out of his own pocket, something that is missed amongst a lot of people.
All of us Skinners are glad of your support and hope you enjoy the end result of all of our work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Personally, I Often wondered why UBI don't put there hand in their pocket and give a little support to it, after all it not only Increases their Presence on the web but Enhances their products as well....

Thanks for all being considerate whilst the Gremlins on loan to IL2Skins are returned to Microsoft....... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

adlabs6
04-19-2004, 03:23 PM
Hi guys, many of these questions have been covered on our forums over the last couple weeks. Here's a quick run-down for you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The server did make a move in the last week or so, and during that time, there was a host of things that needed to be reworked in order to help the move. Some of the downtime was due to the server suffering a power supply failure in the last couple days. Other of the downtime has been due to software code changes to improve the websites performance, and to provide some new features.

The download speed was reduced, certainly not out of pleasure, but to help offset some pretty large bandwidth demands that have only continued to grow. Download managers were blocked for a time, and may be again. I have donated cash to support IL2Skins, and will again. Please consider donating yourself to help.

Spectre, I am a moderator of the skins archive at IL2Skins, along with CanonUK and HunHunter Texas. We try to catch as many "wrong" classifications as we can, but sometimes they get by. If you or any others find a skin that's been uploaded wrongly, feel free to contact one of us to investigate. A new feature in development is the ability to "report" a skin that is wrongly classified to the staff with just a singly click. That'll make it lots easier for all of us to help keep IL2Skins at its best.

IL2Skins is up for me right now, BTW.

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|CoB|_Spectre
04-19-2004, 06:55 PM
Thanks for the comeback, adlabs6. Just for curiosity's sake, I've been keeping up with my meager upload's download rate and it just caught my eye that the current status is showing less download count than it was on Saturday and couldn't imagine why. It's no biggy. I do appreciate everything you guys are doing at il2skins.com. When I upload, I try to give an honest categorization of the skin. Obviously getting your skin shown on the homepage helps get the download count jump-started, but I'd rather people resorted to honesty than to whistle blowing. Some I've seen on the homepage are so blatantly non-historical as to be laughable, but they still get shown. I think the best way around this is to show all uploaded skins on the homepage whether it's historical or not. The sheer volume of submissions means a short life on the homepage, but everyone who takes the time to do a skin, no matter how good or bad, just wants a moment to showcase their work.

adlabs6
04-19-2004, 09:56 PM
Hi again,

I'd guess that your reduced download numbers are related to some recent code changes that affected the recognition of downloads by non-registered visitors.

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Sharx66
04-21-2004, 07:46 PM
Hi all!

Well true there was a server move. And obviously, i could not pick the setup i would like to have. You have to remember that the site is dynamic. A part some numbers that are compiled periodically to save some load, every request pull real time queries to a ~1 Gigabyte database (excluding skin archive which is about 9 gigs).

The ideal setup for il2skins would be:
P4 2.4 or higher with scsi raid for database and 2 gigs of ram and a standard server with IDE drives to run the HTTP (Apache server)

Currently, everything is runned from a:
P4 2.8 HT with 1 gig of ram.
This machine run every http request and every queries made to the database. The database receive an average of 44 queries per second and consist of 1 main script and 5 external daemons running in the background processing the following tasks: Compiling statistics every 15 minutes for the intro page, compiling votes, compiling online users every minute, compiling number of comments per skin, compiling the filter buttons you see at the top of the download page. there's are actually about 5 html pages used as templates. There are no static page, when you click somewhere, the software do queries to the db and build the webpage you requested on the fly.

Since i moved to the new server, i also worked a lot of hours to optimize everything in the last 2 weeks. I even removed the bandwidth speed cap and will let it removed if we don't burst 1000 GIGS per month. Everything is homemade except for the forums wich is phpBB. Everything was custom compiled from source from the web server to the database and DNS server.

Unfortunatly, as good as it can run right now, setup is not optimal (hardware). And everyday i try to think of new ways to reduce workload on the server without removing the dynamic aspect of il2skins. But i've had problems in the last week especially. The website is running very fast and suddenly it become overloaded. Not by the number of users on it because it can support a good number of users. I can't speak of what i've found so far but there are some people who like to DoS (Denial of service attacks) and i've been working days on methods to prevent it including throttle modules and anti-flooding rules in the firewall. It's not ok yet, the next security features i'll setup will probably be able to get rid of the problems we've had this week but no site is 100% safe from DoS attacks.

There's a lot of work involved in the background that nobody see but one thing you can all be sure is that i love this site and i'm working everyday on it to improve it.

Thanks Adlabs, Hunhunter and CanonUK also these guys are doing great work for the community on this site.

So current states of the site is you may still expect some downtimes until i resolve the attack issues but when there's no attack. It's running very smooth and fast. I'm actually getting 485kBytes second on skin tranfer with my 4.5 megabits connection at home. All of this handed to you for free, without any advertisement or spam being sent to your email, by skinners, donators and il2skins mods. So some downtimes or a download speedcap from time to time to prevent bursting the monthly bandwidth is not too much to ask i guess. After all, waiting 45 seconds for a skin instead of 3 second near the end of a month IF the bandwidth is being exceeded is not too much to ask i guess, especially considering most skins take hours of work.

Best regards and thanks all for the support,

Sharx
Il2Skins.com

Sharx66
04-21-2004, 08:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ZG77_Spectre:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
...Recently he said il2skins will become a historical only skins site, hes going to need to do that especially with PF down the road. QUOTE]

I was told by a high number of skins contributor that only those the author submitted as "historical, near perfect" were pictured on the most recent skin uploaded section of the homepage. As to whether the skin is actually drawn from a historical paintscheme is apparently not as important has putting it under that classification so the artist can showcase his work and have good intial exposure for increased download count. You see some pretty wild paintschemes on the homepage that obviously are NOT historical. Sharx must know this, but it's hard to tell if his quote is a lamentation of what it's turned into or a statement of policy to be adopted.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not only "near perfect", any skins with historical in it. "Historical, some elements" etc..

My quote isn't a lamentation, it's not my style. it's more an objective. I would really like to see il2skins only offering historical skins. I first though about it for some weeks, meanwhile i was also giving more tools to the mods to control the classification and was to write a guide on how to classify. But at this point, many skinners to who i talked with were really liking the idea. So the project is on the way, i don't have any ETA but more details to come in the future.