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XyZspineZyX
05-23-2003, 08:28 PM
Hi all,

We have launched an official BETA server. This server is to test our Stand alone application. This is an adversarial server that can host 16 players. This is our second tests with the community on-line. We want to test the stability, reliability and all other problem that ca be related to the server. To being able to join the server you need to have the version 1.2 of Raven Shield.

Please report any bugs or problems to this e-mail address:
rsbetaserverreports@ubisoft.qc.ca

Windows server
Server name:
OFFICIAL BETA SERVER TEST
Server IP:
216.98.60.57
Server locastion Montreal,Canada

Linux server
Server name
OFFICIAL LINUX BETA SERVER
Server IP:
216.98.60.58
Server locastion Montreal,Canada


Bonjour,

Nous avons lancé un serveur qui utilise notre nouvelle application de Stand alone server. Cette application est un outil qui permet au joueur de lancer un serveur dédié sans avoir le jeu. Le serveur en question peut accepter 16 joueurs en mode adverse. Il s'agit de notre deuxi¨me test avec la communauté. Nous voulons faire des tests sur la fonctionnalité, connectivité ainsi que sur tout probl¨mes pouvant ªtre relié au serveur. Pour joindre le serveur sans probl¨me, il faut avoir la version 1.2 de Raven Shield.

S'il vous plat, veuillez nous faire parvenir n'importe qu'elle bug ou probl¨me l'adresse suivante : rsbetaserverreports@ubisoft.qc.ca

Windows server
Server name:
OFFICIAL BETA SERVER TEST
Server IP:
216.98.60.57
Server locastion Montreal,Canada

Linux server
Server name
OFFICIAL LINUX BETA SERVER
Server IP:
216.98.60.58
Server locastion Montreal,Canada



Berlu
Dev team

XyZspineZyX
05-23-2003, 08:28 PM
Hi all,

We have launched an official BETA server. This server is to test our Stand alone application. This is an adversarial server that can host 16 players. This is our second tests with the community on-line. We want to test the stability, reliability and all other problem that ca be related to the server. To being able to join the server you need to have the version 1.2 of Raven Shield.

Please report any bugs or problems to this e-mail address:
rsbetaserverreports@ubisoft.qc.ca

Windows server
Server name:
OFFICIAL BETA SERVER TEST
Server IP:
216.98.60.57
Server locastion Montreal,Canada

Linux server
Server name
OFFICIAL LINUX BETA SERVER
Server IP:
216.98.60.58
Server locastion Montreal,Canada


Bonjour,

Nous avons lancé un serveur qui utilise notre nouvelle application de Stand alone server. Cette application est un outil qui permet au joueur de lancer un serveur dédié sans avoir le jeu. Le serveur en question peut accepter 16 joueurs en mode adverse. Il s'agit de notre deuxi¨me test avec la communauté. Nous voulons faire des tests sur la fonctionnalité, connectivité ainsi que sur tout probl¨mes pouvant ªtre relié au serveur. Pour joindre le serveur sans probl¨me, il faut avoir la version 1.2 de Raven Shield.

S'il vous plat, veuillez nous faire parvenir n'importe qu'elle bug ou probl¨me l'adresse suivante : rsbetaserverreports@ubisoft.qc.ca

Windows server
Server name:
OFFICIAL BETA SERVER TEST
Server IP:
216.98.60.57
Server locastion Montreal,Canada

Linux server
Server name
OFFICIAL LINUX BETA SERVER
Server IP:
216.98.60.58
Server locastion Montreal,Canada



Berlu
Dev team

XyZspineZyX
05-24-2003, 12:17 AM
Why not public beta release?

UBI is testing since 30 april 3 weeks have past and still no linux servers http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

But thx for the info Berlu.

XyZspineZyX
05-24-2003, 02:10 AM
Will the Linux server work with all versions of Linux?

Mainly Slackware

XyZspineZyX
05-24-2003, 06:32 PM
op_stager wrote:
- Will the Linux server work with all versions of
- Linux?
-
- Mainly Slackware
-
-

I'd already be happy if they'd only tell what Linux they're currently running the server on, but I guess that would be too much to ask for.

XyZspineZyX
05-24-2003, 07:20 PM
Probably redhat.

XyZspineZyX
05-26-2003, 01:57 PM
Yes, the linux server run on red hat version of linux...


Berlu
Dev team

XyZspineZyX
05-26-2003, 08:35 PM
That narrows it down somewhat... Now what version?



Message Edited on 05/26/0303:36PM by wahoo1

XyZspineZyX
05-27-2003, 01:17 AM
OMG release it PLZZZZZZ!!!!!!!

XyZspineZyX
05-27-2003, 04:18 AM
This is crazy. You promised the release over two weeks ago, and marketed the game as having linux server support to all of your customers. Just release it already...I can't believe how long you have taken UBI. You obviously have working source code...just release it!

XyZspineZyX
05-27-2003, 07:55 AM
when you say it's redhat do you just meant that it's rpm installer or what makes it redhat?

Hope it's just the rpm so I can run it with my SuSe /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
05-27-2003, 08:10 PM
.....and the waiting continues....


When the linux port is released, the game can finaly start. Clans can afford clan servers for a decent price.. etc.

More publics will come online.


Plz release it !!

XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 01:00 PM
Hi all,

We know that linux server is really important for the community and we are working as fast as we can on that. We realize with this week-end test that we experiment stability problem with the linux server. Some fix has been made yesterday and i will update the server this morning.

We will release the server on Beta version but we want to have somthing stable before release it.

Hope you understand.



Berlu
Dev team

XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 01:22 PM
Thnx for the reply berlu

XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 07:26 PM
Thanks for the update.

Just want to add...I really don't understand why people flame so hard about this issue. Understandably, it wasn't delivered when it was suppose to be delivered and there may not have been a great showing of developer feedback to the questions regarding this in the past. However, there really isn't any reason to flame ubi after the ANNOUNCED that they have the linux server in beta testing. With the way they have been flamed thus far..imagine they released the beta full of bugs such as the stability issue that was since fixed...there will be more blood on this forum than in the game itself. Also, a quick point, at least UBI is taking the time to deliver a linux server port of this themselves unlike some publishers. (albeit, in the end, this will further increase its sales once the linux floodgates open up). Until then, thanks for the update and please let us all know of any new milestones reached.


Thanks again

XyZspineZyX
05-28-2003, 10:29 PM
drunkenmuncher wrote:
- Thanks for the update.
-
- Just want to add...I really don't understand why
- people flame so hard about this issue.
- Understandably, it wasn't delivered when it was
- suppose to be delivered and there may not have been
- a great showing of developer feedback to the
- questions regarding this in the past. However, there
- really isn't any reason to flame ubi after the
- ANNOUNCED that they have the linux server in beta
- testing. With the way they have been flamed thus
- far..imagine they released the beta full of bugs
- such as the stability issue that was since
- fixed...there will be more blood on this forum than
- in the game itself. Also, a quick point, at least
- UBI is taking the time to deliver a linux server
- port of this themselves unlike some publishers.
- (albeit, in the end, this will further increase its
- sales once the linux floodgates open up). Until
- then, thanks for the update and please let us all
- know of any new milestones reached.
-
-
- Thanks again
-
-
Well, I think part of the problem is that people were told of linux server support since the beginning...At one point UBI stated the server would be released the next day along with the 1.2 patch (This was on the 13th of May, and I thought it was late then) Many people jumped in to get ahead of the crowd and rented a shell account. I have read several posts referring to people paying 50+ dollars a month sitting on a server that is doing nothing in anticipation of linux support. I understand coding errors and unexpected problems...I just don't understand MARKETING promises you can't keep. They made several sales on a feature they have yet to deliver on. In UBI's defense it seems the server is finally acutally going to be released "soon" and I have to give them credit for trying to release a stable beta. But if you want to know why we're upset, there's your answer.

XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 11:34 AM
RedHat?? What the hell!!
are you ugly in your brain??

arg, why you develop a sa linux server für redhat? redhat is not much used! take SuSE or debian!

..I'll hope it works on other distributions too!
otherwise I will take a bomb to ubi-central and blow this idiots to heaven!

XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 07:44 PM
OSF_Richi wrote:
- RedHat?? What the hell!!
- are you ugly in your brain??
-
- arg, why you develop a sa linux server für redhat?
- redhat is not much used! take SuSE or debian!
-
- ..I'll hope it works on other distributions too!
- otherwise I will take a bomb to ubi-central and blow
- this idiots to heaven!
-
-

well i still think that the only thing what could make it "redhat" would be rpm installer.. and suse supports redhat rpms, so it should work for suse also.

of course there might be some redhat libraries but those can be installed too...

XyZspineZyX
05-29-2003, 08:32 PM
OSF_Richi wrote:
- RedHat?? What the hell!!
- are you ugly in your brain??
-
- arg, why you develop a sa linux server für redhat?
- redhat is not much used! take SuSE or debian!
-
- ..I'll hope it works on other distributions too!
- otherwise I will take a bomb to ubi-central and blow
- this idiots to heaven!
-
-

Are you talking out your *** or what?
RedHat is probably the most widely used Linux Distro out their.
Because of it being so compatiable with scsi drives and hardware.
Plus IBM supports RH which makes it even more popular.
So im not sure what crack you been smoken but you need to no talk about something you know nothing about....

RedHat is probably the most widely used Linux distro in ISP's as well.

Yes granted redhat is not very secure out of the box.
But it can be made very secure....

Plus it is very easy to manage which is why alot of ISP's use it.

As far as bombing well you just made a terriorst threat to a company in a public forum which tracks your ip address?
Not to smart considering the USA is at high risk...
Use you head...

XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 09:34 AM
The linux server is never running when I have tried to play on it.

XyZspineZyX
05-30-2003, 05:56 PM
r00t316 wrote:
-
- OSF_Richi wrote:
-- RedHat?? What the hell!!
-- are you ugly in your brain??
--
-- arg, why you develop a sa linux server für redhat?
-- redhat is not much used! take SuSE or debian!
--
-- ..I'll hope it works on other distributions too!
-- otherwise I will take a bomb to ubi-central and blow
-- this idiots to heaven!
--
--
-
- Are you talking out your *** or what?
- RedHat is probably the most widely used Linux Distro
- out their.

Mandrake and SuSE have high adoption too. If Redhat is the most used it probably has something to do with big corporate customers with large numbers of installs.

- Because of it being so compatiable with scsi drives
- and hardware.

Hardware support is in the kernel. Redhat has some good optimized kernels, but there are a lot of really good ones available in the community.

- Plus IBM supports RH which makes it even more
- popular.

That is very true. The relationship between IBM and Redhat has done a lot for both companies.

- So im not sure what crack you been smoken but you
- need to no talk about something you know nothing
- about....
-
- RedHat is probably the most widely used Linux distro
- in ISP's as well.

True

- Yes granted redhat is not very secure out of the
- box.
- But it can be made very secure....

That's imprecise. Linux in general is only as secure as the skills of the system administrator. Because Linux is Unix based, and because most crackers know Unix very well, it is necessary that the person who secures a Linux system understands all of the parts of the system very well. There are a lot of services that are turned on by default in most Linux distros that present opportunities for someone to gain root access or do other nasty things. In order for Linux to be secure you have to have someone in charge of administering the server who knows what these services are and how to disable them or secure them appropriately. Contrast that to Windows where no matter how well you know the system MS can release an update that creates a security hole you don't know about until they tell you about it months later ;-)

- Plus it is very easy to manage which is why alot of
- ISP's use it.

That's not necessarily true... see my comments about securing Linux above. What is true is that once it's up and configured it will usually stay that way come hell or high water.

- As far as bombing well you just made a terriorst
- threat to a company in a public forum which tracks
- your ip address?
- Not to smart considering the USA is at high risk...
- Use you head...

Hmmm. I bet Cuba is nice this time of year...

XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 05:56 AM
yaphadam97 wrote:
-
- r00t316 wrote:
--
-- OSF_Richi wrote:
--- RedHat?? What the hell!!
--- are you ugly in your brain??
---
--- arg, why you develop a sa linux server für redhat?
--- redhat is not much used! take SuSE or debian!
---
--- ..I'll hope it works on other distributions too!
--- otherwise I will take a bomb to ubi-central and blow
--- this idiots to heaven!
---
---
--
-- Are you talking out your *** or what?
-- RedHat is probably the most widely used Linux Distro
-- out their.
-
- Mandrake and SuSE have high adoption too. If Redhat
- is the most used it probably has something to do
- with big corporate customers with large numbers of
- installs.
-
-- Because of it being so compatiable with scsi drives
-- and hardware.
-
- Hardware support is in the kernel. Redhat has some
- good optimized kernels, but there are a lot of
- really good ones available in the community.
-
-- Plus IBM supports RH which makes it even more
-- popular.
-
- That is very true. The relationship between IBM and
- Redhat has done a lot for both companies.
-
-- So im not sure what crack you been smoken but you
-- need to no talk about something you know nothing
-- about....
--
-- RedHat is probably the most widely used Linux distro
-- in ISP's as well.
-
- True
-
-- Yes granted redhat is not very secure out of the
-- box.
-- But it can be made very secure....
-
- That's imprecise. Linux in general is only as secure
- as the skills of the system administrator. Because
- Linux is Unix based, and because most crackers know
- Unix very well, it is necessary that the person who
- secures a Linux system understands all of the parts
- of the system very well. There are a lot of services
- that are turned on by default in most Linux distros
- that present opportunities for someone to gain root
- access or do other nasty things. In order for Linux
- to be secure you have to have someone in charge of
- administering the server who knows what these
- services are and how to disable them or secure them
- appropriately. Contrast that to Windows where no
- matter how well you know the system MS can release
- an update that creates a security hole you don't
- know about until they tell you about it months later
- ;-)

If you read it I said "It is NOT<- very secure out of the box....
BUT CAN BE very secure....
Which CAN BE means someone whos knows what they are doing....



-
-- Plus it is very easy to manage which is why alot of
-- ISP's use it.
-
- That's not necessarily true... see my comments about
- securing Linux above. What is true is that once it's
- up and configured it will usually stay that way come
- hell or high water.
-
-- As far as bombing well you just made a terriorst
-- threat to a company in a public forum which tracks
-- your ip address?
-- Not to smart considering the USA is at high risk...
-- Use you head...
-
- Hmmm. I bet Cuba is nice this time of year...
-
-



But other then that we pretty much have the same feelings...
Point of the matter is Linux is Linux no matter who the distro is. The base is still linux but its dependant on what packages are installed for the most part and configs etc etc.. which seperate what distro it is..
If they plan on making a linux rvs dedicated server, it should support pretty much all linux distro's...

regards,

r00t 3:16

XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 07:48 AM
r00t316 wrote:
- If you read it I said "It is NOT<- very secure out
- of the box....
- BUT CAN BE very secure....
- Which CAN BE means someone whos knows what they are
- doing....

I didn't say you were wrong, I just said that it was imprecise and added some clarification.

- But other then that we pretty much have the same
- feelings...
- Point of the matter is Linux is Linux no matter who
- the distro is. The base is still linux but its
- dependant on what packages are installed for the
- most part and configs etc etc.. which seperate what
- distro it is..

There can be some pretty significant differences among Linux distros. I use Gentoo, which is a source based distro and quite a bit different from Redhat. But, I do agree, once you get into the details of what makes it Linux, most flavors are more similar than they are different.

XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 07:48 AM
I completely agree...perhaps souce code which could be compiled on a specific distro of linux (or other unix) would be the best alternative...rather than a binary developed on a specific platform.

-ZuLLy



Message Edited on 06/01/0306:51AM by zully210

XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 05:13 PM
I highly doudt they will release source code to the unreal engine for linux.

They will probably package it as a .bin file.
With some kind of License Agreement bleh bleh...

Source would be great but I really don't think its gonna happen.


r00t 3:16

XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 05:31 PM
r00t316 wrote:
- I highly doudt they will release source code to the
- unreal engine for linux.
-
- They will probably package it as a .bin file.
- With some kind of License Agreement bleh bleh...
-
- Source would be great but I really don't think its
- gonna happen.

I agree. While source based releases are great for the ability to optimize them for your specific hardware platform, most of the software that is released in this fashion is open source software where the code is readily available anyway, or, if it is proprietary software, it is with a purchase agreement that includes access to the source code as part of the service contract.

With a proprietary engine like UT, with Ubi as the licensee, I would be really suprised to see any source. Best case you get a precompiled engine with parts of the system that can be configured and built using make. It is far more likely that we will just get an RPM pre-built for the lowest common denominator x86 system.

BTW, I am starting to talk to certain members of the community about a project to create an open source FPS gaming engine that would probably have a BSD style license. This is in the very earliest pre-pre-pre-planning stages, but if it were to happen it would be something that the mod community could use to build their own games without having to beg someone like Ubi to release an SDK for their latest and greatest. We're not just talking about open sourcing an engine like Id did with Quake, but creating a complete framework that would be extensible to the newest hardware and graphics capabilities and totally community developed and maintained. More on this later... check the mod forum for a new thread that I plan to start when I have the ideas collected a little better.

XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 09:02 PM
Berlu wrote:
- Hi all,
-
- We know that linux server is really important for
- the community and we are working as fast as we can
- on that. We realize with this week-end test that we
- experiment stability problem with the linux server.
- Some fix has been made yesterday and i will update
- the server this morning.
-
- We will release the server on Beta version but we
- want to have somthing stable before release it.
-
- Hope you understand.
-
-
-
-
- Berlu
- Dev team


Berlu,
Can you please give us some details about the new stand alone Windows and Linux servers?

1. Will it have a GUI that is simple to use (i.e. BF 1942 dedicated server)?

2. Will we be able to switch game modes on the fly? This is a major issue! As it stands now, we have to shut down the server in order to switch from co-op to adversarial game mode. That is ridiculous!

3. Will there be major improvements to the remote admin features? Much work is needed here! It's almost impossible to change game modes remotely.

4. Will we be able to make server changes without restarting at the beginning of the maplist?


These are all valid issues that should be dealt with to benefit the game and the RvS community as a whole.

Thanks in advance for your response.







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XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 09:13 PM
ThumperDFN wrote:
- Berlu,
- Can you please give us some details about the new
- stand alone Windows and Linux servers?
-
- 1. Will it have a GUI that is simple to use (i.e. BF
- 1942 dedicated server)?

In addition to number one, I would like to know if the dedicated server will be able to run headless (i.e. without a GUI) so that it can be run on machines without a running X server.

XyZspineZyX
06-02-2003, 06:38 AM
HI Berlu,

I have a server company that can fix me up, but they say they want to wait till RvS is LINUX ready.

can you tell me when that would be plz?

Thanks Bro!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-03-2003, 06:35 PM
any news berlu?

still waiting...

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XyZspineZyX
06-04-2003, 08:11 PM
I tried to use the server stat system (rvs_query written in php, theplatoon.com, and remote admin stuff), but they didn't work {8-(

szucsati

Budapest, Hungary
-----------------
http://hunters.hu :: The only one original Hungarian R6 Line & tactical game fan club!

XyZspineZyX
06-11-2003, 09:17 PM
I feel bad that everyone is arguing about which dist of Linux to use.... I'll make it easier for everyone so no
one can say I prefer one over the other

The dist I suggest is called FreeBSD http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Seriously, besides the fact I'll be porting it to BSD, why does the Linux community have some much in-fighting on "what
dist is better?"

CL

XyZspineZyX
06-11-2003, 11:55 PM
Porting a bin compiled in Linux? Good Luck! But let me know how you did it if you do. I have a BSDI machine I would like to run it on too. Of couse, this is probably quite a bit in the future since UBI's definition of "soon" means September (of 2010). To answer your other question...I'm not really sure why it matters so much what distro is best...My personal philosophy is if it runs, it doesn't matter.

Later,
ZuLLy

XyZspineZyX
06-14-2003, 07:46 AM
Every month or so I'll keep coming back to see what the news is... In this case "no news" is not "good news"...


:c (

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 07:04 AM
it's so sad we had to make another thread just to b1tch on..
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=rb3rvsservers&id=zzunw

XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 02:44 AM
szucsati wrote:
- I tried to use the server stat system (rvs_query
- written in php, theplatoon.com, and remote admin
- stuff), but they didn't work {8-(
-
- szucsati
-
- Budapest, Hungary
------------------
- http://hunters.hu :: The only one
- original Hungarian R6 Line & tactical game fan club!

I've coded a patch for qstat that supports ravenshield if you want it drop me a mail:
killing@multiplay.co.uk

XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 08:16 PM
And still no Linux Server. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif


Just finished reading all the posts *phew* /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

As for the linux and which is best, I would agree they all are.....depending on what you like.

I have installed most of the big ones and ended up with redhat because is was easier and quicker to admin (for me).

Mandrake and SuSe would'nt even install to start with??

I also agree that its a shame we have to complain about a game that we all love so much (hence we complain about it). I have built my redhat pc for the main reason of hosting a server (I have never done it before) and it seems that its taking a very long time for UBI to release.

I'm sure BF1942 was released a bit quicker than this.

Is there a revised ETA for this??


Fingers Crossed ;-)

Medic6666

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 04:35 PM
Has anyone from Ubi ever said whether the Linux server is an actually Linux port or must be ran under Wine?


-Chuck

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 11:57 PM
It better not be something run under WINE. That's not a Linux server, that's a halfa$$ work-around.

Ubi needs to get moving on this. It's becoming really ridiculous. If Ubi is too incompetent to get the Linux server out after all this time, then they need to hire some outside party to do it. That outside party should be comprised of seasoned linux software developers, of course.

Ubi, get it done. There is absolutely no excuse for your failure to have a linux server version completed and released by now. It is your responsibility.

On a related note, I think Ubi should consider compensating those who lost money because of Ubi's failure to make good on a promise. You don't announce that you'll be releasing something in a few days, and then not release it for months. Completely unethical.



Message Edited on 07/13/0310:58PM by N.Guardfather

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:14 PM
We are dropping all support for anything that comes from Ubi in the form of past, present or future games. They seem to spend more on false advertising campaigns than they do the development of the games. If only I could get my $50 back for this POS, does Tom Clancy know what they're doing with his name???

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 04:34 PM
Great that means all good versions of linux are out. I hope they are realeasing bianaries so i can compile for my version of linux.