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xxcurarexx
03-15-2004, 04:05 PM
Hello all! First post on these forums! This is the only other game (besides Day of Defeat) that has inspired me to post in its forums. Yay.

This has probably been covered many times...but I'm curious as to which Bf109 model is the most balanced combination of performance and firepower. My own investigations have led to the F-4. What do you all think?

[This message was edited by xxcurarexx on Mon March 15 2004 at 03:14 PM.]

xxcurarexx
03-15-2004, 04:05 PM
Hello all! First post on these forums! This is the only other game (besides Day of Defeat) that has inspired me to post in its forums. Yay.

This has probably been covered many times...but I'm curious as to which Bf109 model is the most balanced combination of performance and firepower. My own investigations have led to the F-4. What do you all think?

[This message was edited by xxcurarexx on Mon March 15 2004 at 03:14 PM.]

JG27_Arklight
03-15-2004, 04:15 PM
G-10 or AS for a balance.

Leaning more towards performance and less towards firepower probably the G-2.

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xxcurarexx
03-15-2004, 04:28 PM
Doesn't the G-2 have that hanging landing gear? or is that the G-6...

Korolov
03-15-2004, 04:29 PM
Bf-109K-4 hands down.

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JG27_Arklight
03-15-2004, 04:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Korolov:
Bf-109K-4 hands down.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/newsig1.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


The K4 has a weak airframe, poorly built engine, and doesn't really seem any faster then a G-10.

Explain how the K4 is "decent"..

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Huxley_S
03-15-2004, 04:34 PM
G6/AS for me.

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ASM 1
03-15-2004, 05:02 PM
Pretty much flew the K4 exclusively at first (FB 1.0 - what a machine! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif) But have learnt to like others, particularly G6/AS and the G10. Only one thing that irritates me is that sticky out tailwheel, for me it spoils the asesthetics of the later G's, if the F's had retracting tailwheels and the G2 why not G6, 10 and 14 ? mind you - if they were like that in real life who am I to complain? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Best 109 - Probably Gallands F4 modified with the 20mm guns in the wings.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif or the G6/AS with that nose cannon!. Out of game I have a soft spot for the not so well known high alt K14 (only a few built but did see service... just, I think) with the DB605L engine for high alt fun!

As for the 109z ... no comment - don't have AEP yet (UK http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif ) and besides it is a "fantasy plane" so dunno if it counts - although I'll still fly it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Quick thread hijack here - what airframe is the 109z we get based on? F,G or K ? I have read that it was initially planned on the F series in real life but ended up as a G6 (or two!)... before being destroyed in a raid.

sorry about that...

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Flamin_Squirrel
03-15-2004, 05:13 PM
The main models to consider imo are the following...

G2: Manoverable, good climb, reasonable speed, weak armament (2 7.92mm MG, 1 20mm cannon).
G6: Less manoverable, poorer climb, better armament (2 13mm MG, 1 20mm or 1 30mm cannon).
K4: Poor manoverability, better speed, reasonable armament armament (2 13mm MG, 1 30mm cannon).

I like the G2 for its great balance between power and manoverability. However its let down by its poor weaponary.

//edit - I think the 109z is based on 2 G6's stuck together. Not 100% on that though

crazyivan1970
03-15-2004, 05:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG27_Arklight:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Korolov:
Bf-109K-4 hands down.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/newsig1.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


The K4 has a weak airframe, poorly built engine, and doesn't really seem any faster then a G-10.

Explain how the K4 is "decent"..

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K4 hands down... but as all around plane, G-2 gets my vote.

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Hunde_3.JG51
03-15-2004, 05:19 PM
Just as a note the G-14 is very maneuverable, which can surprise some P-51 drivers.

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m4rin3
03-15-2004, 05:23 PM
I like the K-4 because of its optional Mk-108 gunpods, 2 hits and your target is blown to peices. Although it severely impairs the manoverability, and the K-4 seems extremely susceptable to engine hits, I still like it.

ForkTailedDevil
03-15-2004, 05:26 PM
Well from flat out speed the K-4 is my favorite. Actually from looks standpoint I like all the 109's with the sliding canopy.

I think if the K models were built earlier in the war the quality control would have been better and they would have been more reliable.

I personally feel that all the 109's are lacking in firepower compared to American fighters and the FW-190's.

BfHeFwMe
03-15-2004, 06:05 PM
Really depends on piloting skill level. A highly skilled 109 pilot in a plain G-6 will beat any average pilot in his pick of the best out of the 109 stable.

JG52_Helgstrand
03-15-2004, 06:49 PM
I like the G-2, better for those furballs you always end up in on-line...
It lacks fire power but better manouverability (eeek did I spell it right?)...
For taking out bombers I'll take a G6/AS with 108 nose cannon...

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