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FI-Aflak
01-04-2004, 08:04 PM
Right, so I really enjoy destroyed ground vehicles, buildings, and parked A/C.

It makes me feel like an avenging mythical Greek god. All you Sturmovik and Stuka jockies know of what I speak.

My problem is this: I have trouble surviving campaign missions. Which makes me repeat them. Again. Again. And again.

Here is why: I like killing stuff on the ground too much. This bloodlust leaves me aiming and fireing long after I should have begun throwing my entire body weight into pulling that joystick towards me. I have lost count of the number of times I've pancaked after a ground attack. On one train attack, I pulled up TOO hard, and, although I managed to enter a climb, I tore my tail off on the locomotive's smokestack. Doh.

I play nearly full real, and I really don't like taking unused bullets home, so I usually hunt for targets after I finish my mission, I know this isn't 'historical,' but it sure is fun. My problem is that I usually get too greedy and crash before I run out of ammo.

So how do you other mudmovers prevent yourselves from pancaking during missions? electric shocks?

FI-Aflak
01-04-2004, 08:04 PM
Right, so I really enjoy destroyed ground vehicles, buildings, and parked A/C.

It makes me feel like an avenging mythical Greek god. All you Sturmovik and Stuka jockies know of what I speak.

My problem is this: I have trouble surviving campaign missions. Which makes me repeat them. Again. Again. And again.

Here is why: I like killing stuff on the ground too much. This bloodlust leaves me aiming and fireing long after I should have begun throwing my entire body weight into pulling that joystick towards me. I have lost count of the number of times I've pancaked after a ground attack. On one train attack, I pulled up TOO hard, and, although I managed to enter a climb, I tore my tail off on the locomotive's smokestack. Doh.

I play nearly full real, and I really don't like taking unused bullets home, so I usually hunt for targets after I finish my mission, I know this isn't 'historical,' but it sure is fun. My problem is that I usually get too greedy and crash before I run out of ammo.

So how do you other mudmovers prevent yourselves from pancaking during missions? electric shocks?

necrobaron
01-04-2004, 08:07 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifWell,you're talking to a virtual Stuka pilot here,so I feel your pain.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif All I can say is use constraint. Unless,a vehicle convoy or a relatively undefended train is nearby,I head back home. This also all depends on the enemy fighter cover.

VW-IceFire
01-04-2004, 08:35 PM
I like precision surgical strikes...hit the target fast and very hard. Expend all your ammo at all vulnerable targets as quickly as possible and then move on out.

- IceFire
http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/spit-sig.jpg

FI-Aflak
01-04-2004, 08:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
I like precision surgical strikes...hit the target fast and very hard. Expend all your ammo at all vulnerable targets as quickly as possible and then move on out.

- IceFire
http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/spit-sig.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But the sturmovik carries SO MUCH ammo! Its hard to get rid of it quickly, even when you hold the trigger.

I mean, bombs and rockets are gone fast sure, but when I'm turning for home and I spy a convoy . . and I have a full load of cannon shells left . . . I just can't help it!

jazman777
01-04-2004, 08:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Here is why: I like killing stuff on the ground too much. This bloodlust leaves me aiming and fireing long after I should have begun throwing my entire body weight into pulling that joystick towards me. I have lost count of the number of times I've pancaked after a ground attack.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There's nothing we can do for you. Trying the "dead is dead" campaign approach may help mend your evil ways. "Dead is dead" means when you get killed, you are done with that campaign. So you fly more carefully.

xenios
01-04-2004, 10:15 PM
This is called target fixation--and it has killed a lot of real pilots. This was once my leading cause of death, and started again (ramming planes at 700 kph) when I first started BnZing. My solution was to start strafing from farther away (setting gun convergence to 500m or more for ground attack missions). I still prefer to dive bomb ground targets rather than strafe. If you have rockets, you can hit with these at surprisingly long distances, and even near misses can take out AAA. AAA are very small targets, and lining up with them at very close range is exactly what they want you to do, so I prefer not to use my guns on them.

Antony_B
01-05-2004, 03:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>My problem is that I usually get too greedy and crash before I run out of ammo.

So how do you other mudmovers prevent yourselves from pancaking during missions? electric shocks?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I understand as I have suffered from the same madness. I too can't resist hitting a train or transport column if I see one after meeting the main mission objectives. If you are intent on destroying a target try to get your satisfaction from trying to achieve the perfect and correct approach and pull out of an attack if it feels too dangerous. The Il-2 is such an easy plane to fly that I always took chances but since I started flying the P47, which I find quite hard to control in a tight spot, I've started to mend my ways and be a bit more careful.

Tully__
01-05-2004, 03:34 AM
I fly IL2 (when available) for ground attack. My approach is one or two targets MAXIMUM per pass, sniping from long range. When I'm in form (which I'm not atm) I can get one target per two shots with the 37mm on the IL2-3M. Rockets I'm about 1 in 3 and bombs are pot luck (how do anyone consistently hit anything with bombs????).

On a good day, I've finished an online coop with 1600 points purely from ground targets, though that's pretty rare.

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