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AngelDiMaria08
06-18-2015, 03:44 PM
AC1 Ezio Trilogy and AC3 had the simple concept of good assassins and bad templars. AC4 started to diverge away from this concept and slightly showed the grey areas of the conflict. ACR and ACU emphasised this fact where in ACR they show how corrupt the assassins were and ACU reached the peak where moderate templars and assassins can unite against extreme factions of both teams. ACS seems to return to the initial games good assassins and bad templars which is a dissapointment

Shadownexus7
06-18-2015, 04:21 PM
I'm pretty sure it was AC1 started with the grey areas in the game, the Ezio trilogy had the templar bad / assassins good perspective followed by 3 which had picked up with the grey area concept once again. If im not mistaken.

GunnerGalactico
06-18-2015, 05:49 PM
I'm pretty sure it was AC1 started with the grey areas in the game, the Ezio trilogy had the templar bad / assassins good perspective followed by 3 which had picked up with the grey area concept once again. If im not mistaken.

No, you are correct :)

EmptyCrustacean
06-18-2015, 07:04 PM
Wow. Disagree completely. The entire purpose of the white room assassinations in AC1 was to give the Templars the chance to state their point of view. There was even that entire conversation between Altair and Al Muliam about Altair's doubt - as he saw himself as similar to some of them. How about when he killed that Templar for killing those who followed the wrong religion? The ultimate goal of the Templars was to *force* peace on the public. They established that was the only difference between Assassins and Templars ultimately.

AC4 didn't explore that dynamic at all. Edward was distant from the whole conflict and worked with whoever served his goal.

As for Unity I would argue that it was not about Assassins and Templars uniting but about Arno and Elise not really being that committed to their fractions in the first place which is why they had no problem working together. They were never mistrustful of one another because they treated their secret societies as immaterial to their relationship. Elise should have been disgusted when she found out he had joined the Assassins but instead she treated it like he had got a new job she didn't approve of. He should have also been disgusted seeing as he spent the entire side missions dismantling Templar operations. The only internal conflict was Arno choosing between killing the man that killed Elise's father or saving Elise from herself. Either way it was all about Elise. It was never a choice. We were promised a game where Arno would have to choose between the Brotherhood and Elise but that was never the case. He used the Brotherhood to serve Elise and only committed to being an Assassin once that choice was removed from him; same with Edward.

AngelDiMaria08
06-18-2015, 10:06 PM
Wow. Disagree completely. The entire purpose of the white room assassinations in AC1 was to give the Templars the chance to state their point of view. There was even that entire conversation between Altair and Al Muliam about Altair's doubt - as he saw himself as similar to some of them. How about when he killed that Templar for killing those who followed the wrong religion? The ultimate goal of the Templars was to *force* peace on the public. They established that was the only difference between Assassins and Templars ultimately.

AC4 didn't explore that dynamic at all. Edward was distant from the whole conflict and worked with whoever served his goal.

As for Unity I would argue that it was not about Assassins and Templars uniting but about Arno and Elise not really being that committed to their fractions in the first place which is why they had no problem working together. They were never mistrustful of one another because they treated their secret societies as immaterial to their relationship. Elise should have been disgusted when she found out he had joined the Assassins but instead she treated it like he had got a new job she didn't approve of. He should have also been disgusted seeing as he spent the entire side missions dismantling Templar operations. The only internal conflict was Arno choosing between killing the man that killed Elise's father or saving Elise from herself. Either way it was all about Elise. It was never a choice. We were promised a game where Arno would have to choose between the Brotherhood and Elise but that was never the case. He used the Brotherhood to serve Elise and only committed to being an Assassin once that choice was removed from him; same with Edward.

For AC1 It is showed that AlMualim became corrupted when he allied with Templars at the end. This is why I see it shows angelic assassins devilish Templars.
AC4 the fact that Edward sided with whoever served his goals only until the end when he sided with the assassins somehow shows that there is no clear good and clear bad between the two fractions.
ACU what you say is not 100% correct DeLaSerre and Mirabeau nearly had a truce and Mirabeau also wanted to work with Elisse not only Arno.