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EPP-Gibbs
02-02-2004, 01:44 PM
For UK viewers:

Last part in this very watchable series tonight at 9pm CH4. Memoirs of RAF pilots, LW pilots, original footage, plus current footage of the two seat Grace Spitfire and the lucky sod who gets to fly it! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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EPP-Gibbs
02-02-2004, 01:44 PM
For UK viewers:

Last part in this very watchable series tonight at 9pm CH4. Memoirs of RAF pilots, LW pilots, original footage, plus current footage of the two seat Grace Spitfire and the lucky sod who gets to fly it! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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SpinSpinSugar
02-03-2004, 04:09 AM
This was the best of the series, was it not? You can take the reality TV nonsense away and what was left was just great.

The very end, where they got the Battle of Britain veteran to perform a victory roll from the back seat of the Grace Spitfire was genuinely quite moving. Well done, Channel 4.

SSS

ELEM
02-03-2004, 05:16 AM
What do you mean about the "reality TV nonsense"? The young pilot (Dave Malan) was a natural, and it was nice to see him learning the aerobatics and being complimented on his accuracy. It gave a nice counterpoint to the war time experiences of the "old boys". A great program from top to bottom.

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Cpt-Madcowz
02-03-2004, 05:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ELEM:
What do you mean about the "reality TV nonsense"? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


What he means here, is that this series was a shameful mix of a reality show and a rather good documentary.

Throughout out the series we saw very little of the pilot, for example last week was billed as a map reading and navigation sortie.

I watched it very closely and there was no navigation. All the shots were either fly bys or of his head moving about in the cockpit.

If they wanted to make a documentary, they should have done.

If they wanted to make a reality show watching 4 pilots go through the process of flying a Spitfire. They should have done.

What they should not have done is dumb down an excellent subject thinking that the general public is unable to watch a show unless people get rejected/voted off.

Poor show Channel 4.

/Mad

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Alexi_Alx_Anova
02-03-2004, 06:00 AM
Don't forget that veteran's tip; fly with a little rudder trim on so you are side slipping. Helps the bullets to miss you if bounced from the 6.

Alexi

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SpinSpinSugar
02-03-2004, 06:18 AM
What Cpt-Madcowz said. The shots of young Dave amounted to maybe a five minute sideline per programme with lots of external shots that may, or may not, have been him. Pretty pointless really, but a good sell to the non-aviation-minded public. However, without this element we'd have had much less Spitfire footage so fair play. And I'm glad he was the one that got the nine hours training as the fixed smile on his face at being in control of a Spit was a joy to see. Lucky beggar.

The rest of the programme was brilliantly put together and contained loads of WWII era footage I've never seen, coupled with fascinating interviews with the veterans of both sides. All in all, top class telly. And the end made it all the better.

Anyone read that book by the often-on-screen Dr. Stephen Bungay? "The Most Dangerous Enemy: A History of the Battle of Britain". Seems like a very informed chap.

Cheers, SSS

WOLFMondo
02-03-2004, 06:31 AM
Twas a great program, whether it was a documentry or a reality esque program it was enjoyable to watch for both plane enthusiasts (me) and non enthusiasts (my flatmate who really enjoyed it) did anyone see the 3rd one, there was a program on Germany's 'black' project planes before hand?

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SpinSpinSugar
02-03-2004, 06:41 AM
Yeah, I did WOLFMondo - it was an entertaining two hours on a Monday night, that. Lots of good footage in that programme, too, plus all the "what ifs" are always interesting to ponder.

Cheers, SSS

nutt3r
02-04-2004, 06:53 AM
brilliant program i enjoyed every bit of it.

i liked the bit at the end when they let that vetran go up in the spit http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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fluke39
02-04-2004, 07:14 AM
I caught the end of the amerika bomber program and it looked good - have seen a bit about similar stuff before though.

i have to agree the program seemed to be billed and advertised as being all about the (modern day)pilots getting wartime training and getting to fly the spit - the fact it turned out more documentary than anything suited me fine. one of the best bits for me was to see geoffrey wellum for the first time ( i think) - after reading his bloody marvellous book http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

SpinSpinSugar
02-04-2004, 07:18 AM
Me too fluke39 - great to see how sharp the fellow still is. I wonder how they chose which veteran would get to fly the Spit?

Cheers SSS

WOLFMondo
02-04-2004, 07:29 AM
I don't know, probably health and insurance came into it somewhere though.

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Aaron_GT
02-04-2004, 07:34 AM
They should collect together the documentary
elements, add in unshown recollections from
Geofferey Wellum et. al, and release it on
DVD ready for next September 15th. I will only
charge Channel 4 a royalty of 5% for this idea :-)
Actually 5% royalty to the RAFA would be better.