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Yellonet
07-15-2004, 03:22 PM
I'm thinking of buying one, a Wacom Graphire3 to be precise. Any intput on pen tablets would be appreciated.

Thanks


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Yellonet
07-15-2004, 03:22 PM
I'm thinking of buying one, a Wacom Graphire3 to be precise. Any intput on pen tablets would be appreciated.

Thanks


- Yellonet

p1ngu666
07-15-2004, 04:02 PM
all are a little dodgy
i picked up a good and cheap one from aldi http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
probably need a4 size..

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Hoarmurath
07-15-2004, 04:15 PM
I possess a grapphire3, it seem good (its my first so i can't really compare), and i'm very happy with it. It made some skinning job easier, but i need more practice to use it effectively. It is very dufferent from using a mouse.

hope it help...

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AnalFissure
07-15-2004, 04:17 PM
Wacom's really the only way to go, and they are great products.

That includes the Graphire, however, the Graphire line is more of an entry level kind of thing, so if you're really serious about digital art, I'd recommend a Wacom Intuos tablet.

Gibbage1
07-15-2004, 04:19 PM
Never get a cheap tablet. I got one for 89$ and THOUGHT I saved 30$. I was wrong. The pen is dodgy and uses a AAA bat. The tablet is not very good on sensitivity and I get a lot of jagged lines and can do a smooth pen stroke. I cant place the pad anywere near my monitor, spreakers, cable modem, my DSL router or damn near anything electronic or my mouse randomly wigs out. I have tried a Wacom here at work and it tracks SO MUCH smoother. I just cant afford the 130$ and I dont use the pen much since I focus on modeling and not texturing. I did texture most of the P-80 myself and had Snorri weather it. But all my other models someone else textured it like Snorri, LS, and Capt FlushGuarden. 3 of the best artist's in the comunity and I think all 3 use Wacom http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BeoWolf_361st
07-15-2004, 04:21 PM
http://www.zyonshop.com/product/ipen.htm

Taylortony
07-15-2004, 04:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gibbage1:
Never get a cheap tablet. I got one for 89$ and THOUGHT I saved 30$. I was wrong. The pen is dodgy and uses a AAA bat. The tablet is not very good on sensitivity and I get a lot of jagged lines and can do a smooth pen stroke. I cant place the pad anywere near my monitor, spreakers, cable modem, my DSL router or damn near anything electronic or my mouse randomly wigs out. I have tried a Wacom here at work and it tracks SO MUCH smoother. I just cant afford the 130$ and I dont use the pen much since I focus on modeling and not texturing. I did texture most of the P-80 myself and had Snorri weather it. But all my other models someone else textured it like Snorri, LS, and Capt FlushGuarden. 3 of the best artist's in the comunity and I think all 3 use Wacom http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


You model? ooooh http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif serious though the wacom graphire is about one of the best you can get and wacom are the bees knees of tablets, you wont be sorry

Miss-Kitten
07-15-2004, 04:30 PM
I have a wacom intuos 2 landscaped A4 and it never failed me, tho I failed my tablet many times lol specially in the beginning. Its an awesome tool.

A4 size isn't really necessary unless you plan on doing a lot of digitizing (ie tracing work from tablet to computer).

Since computer work with a reduced resolution, many users find a smaller tablet actually more comfortable to work with.

In the end its up to you and your budget, but honestly, its nearly impossible to go wrong with a wacom.

Graphire, Intues all good. Personaly I'd go for an Intues (I agree with AnalFissure)

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AnalFissure
07-15-2004, 04:30 PM
Gibbage, RE: the jagged lines:

If you're using photoshop you can turn on brush smoothing. This should help you a bit.

RE: Batteries:

Just say no! Stay away from anything that isn't Wacom (none of their tablets use batteries).

Miss-Kitten
07-15-2004, 04:35 PM
You also might want to check out their website, where you can actually compare products yourself and fire off any question you may have.

http://www.wacom.com/

Their customer service is second to none.

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alichino
07-15-2004, 04:37 PM
I have the wacom Graphire2 series (4x5 in.) and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I have been using it for almost two years, the same pad, and have not had to replace the pen, although the pen is starting to act up (not as much sensitivity as before and sometimes after I move the point off the pad it still acts like it is on the pad). The only real issue I have with it is that the plastic cover used for tracing and protecting the under surface has begun to get 'ruts' in it that the pen trips on as I move it, but the overlay is only $9.00 to replace.
Side note: In art school we are taught to draw with gross motor movement, more with arm movement. Wrist movement is very frowned upon...yet here I am with a 4 x 5 pad forced to work with my wrist and fine finger motor skills to translate a quarter inch line into a 800pixel line on the screen. Oh well.

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Agamemnon22
07-15-2004, 05:18 PM
I have a Graphire2 4x5 and I love it to death. I've never tried a bigger tablet, but the next size up was also twice as much so I didnt figure it was worth it.

owlwatcher
07-15-2004, 07:14 PM
Have a older Wacom 12 by 12 running with a old Matrox dual screen 32 mb something.
Best thing I have bought. Costly, but the software was good and well try it you will wonder why you had not invested in one before.
Most just buy the samller tablets but the 12 by 12 was like having a desk top in front of you.
Alot of grafic artist will swear by them.
If I had some extra money I would buy a new one with both the pen & mouse setup..

LeadSpitter_
07-16-2004, 12:16 AM
waccom are the better ones. I use a junky aiptek which is alright but not the greatest. At work I use a waccom tablet and its alot better.

I also seen then have new lazer pens that dont need a tablet and have a pressure sensative buttons which look good.

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tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-16-2004, 01:06 AM
I have one and its a great little tool for the money. If your into digital art and drawing then its a must. Mines a Wacom didn't shop around much though.

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Gaz_Lewis
07-16-2004, 01:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>i picked up a good and cheap one from aldi<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, but its no Netto or Lidel. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Yellonet
07-16-2004, 01:52 AM
Will my regular mouse work at the same time as the pen or do I have to get the package with a mouse? How does it work?


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Hoarmurath
07-16-2004, 02:38 AM
I use the package with a mouse, and it work with my regular mouse as well... So i have four pointing devices actually, my logitech mouse, the wacom pen, the wacom mouse, and the mouse emulation on the X45. Everything working perfectly fine. I can just grab whatever pointing device and begin using it...

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Yellonet
07-16-2004, 03:40 AM
Ah, that was good to hear. Thanks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


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B16Enk
07-16-2004, 04:55 AM
And Wacom often have re-conditioned tablets for sale http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have Graphire 1, 2 and 3 (kids use them too) and the only difference I have noticed is the USB is easier to plug in http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ohtewise they perform just as well.

LeChuck59
07-16-2004, 05:17 AM
I have a Wacom Intuous2 8x6 tablet. It's fantastic and worth the $265 I bought it for.

It is not dodgy. It's capable of very fine lines and gradations.

The one thing that I'm still getting used to is that because of the relation between the size of the tablet and the size of the image displayed on the screen, I've had to change the way I draw. When I use a pen or pencil, I generally rest my hand on the paper and use my fingers to create all the strokes. With the Wacom you'll need bigger strokes and, if you're like me, you'll need to learn to use your whole arm to move your hand in conjunction with your fingers to get them. This isn't a deficiency with the tablet, just an adjustment I had to make, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Painter8 is also fantastic and a 30 day demo comes with the Intuous boards.

Yellonet
07-16-2004, 06:47 AM
Well I really would want a Intous2 but they're way too expensive.. not sure how much I'm going to use the pen anyway. A Graphire3 is in my pricerange and that seems to be a great beginners pen http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Maybe I'll finish some of my skins now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


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Bearcat99
07-16-2004, 07:01 AM
You guys need to take a look at Beowolfs post on page one... #6 I think. I have that pen and it is pretty nice once you get used to it. You dont need a tablet per se... jut use any optical mouse pad and you are good to go.I am not proficient with lightpens but i am getting better but i am glad i got this instead of having a huge pad on my desk.

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Yellonet
07-16-2004, 09:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
You guys need to take a look at Beowolfs post on page one... #6 I think. I have that pen and it is pretty nice once you get used to it. You dont need a tablet per se... jut use any optical mouse pad and you are good to go.I am not proficient with lightpens but i am getting better but i am glad i got this instead of having a huge pad on my desk.

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Hmm... I don't think so..

The Graphire3 doesn't use batteries, got 2000dpi compared to 800 on that thing..
and an A6 pad is really small.


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