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TheEngine88
05-07-2004, 12:26 PM
Thinking of getting one, as it is inexpensive and USB-capable.

Anyone with opinions on this stick?

Thanks in advance

TheEngine88
05-07-2004, 12:26 PM
Thinking of getting one, as it is inexpensive and USB-capable.

Anyone with opinions on this stick?

Thanks in advance

Korolov
05-07-2004, 12:27 PM
Won't last very long, thats about it. Will last about 3 to 4 months, depending on how hard you are on it and how often you use it.

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TheEngine88
05-07-2004, 12:31 PM
Thanks very much. I'll try to go easy on it, but with a bandit on your tail chewing up your rudder, its hard to be gentle http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

horseback
05-07-2004, 12:31 PM
I've always loved mine, as long as they lasted, which was not long enough.

I now have a CH Products HOTAS rig, with far greater satisfaction and functionality, for less than I would have had to spend on Logitech products over the same period of time.

cheers

horseback

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SodBuster43
05-07-2004, 12:36 PM
I recently purchased Logitech's Extreme 3d Pro. I did this because the drivers for my Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold do not work well with WinXP and my system resulting in my having to unplug and replug the USB cable when windows is booted in order to load the Saitek drivers.

After playing with the Logitech stick for a couple weeks I have gone back to my Saitek Cyborg due to the fact that this is a much better stick in my opinion. It gives much finer control for accurate gunnery. The logitech stick seemed too touchy to me. However, the Logitech stick did work well and as intended. Also, there were no apparent driver issues.

I guess I will just need to live with the unplugging/replugging thing on my Cyborg 3D Gold.

Kasdeya
05-07-2004, 12:39 PM
I have a Logitech stick, can't remember the exact name though. It didn't last but four months, I took it apart cleaned the bottom portion of the stick(pots) wiht air and now its fine(four more months). I have a CH Products Pro Throttle and love it very much. I will be getting the CH Combat stick and the CH Pedals soon. One stick to look at would be the Saitek X45. They are really nice and not too expensive. Stick and Throttle for about 80 dollars US. Let some others tell you about what they have before making a final decision on anything, although I would base my decision on how much I will be playing this sim. That says alot for what stick to buy.

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lindyman
05-07-2004, 12:39 PM
I only have experience with the Logitech Wingman Extreme 3D Force Feedback (phew, long name,) and it's a piece of junk.

Currently happily using a Saitek Cyborg 3D FF, which is a far better stick in every respect. BTW, Sod... I'm using it with XP Pro, without any problems with the driver.
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BpGemini
05-07-2004, 01:00 PM
My Logitech Joysticks have lasted as long as I have wanted them to.

I have one of these now;

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Logitech Freedom 2.4 Ghz Cordless
* 10 buttons (18 commands when one button is assigned as a shift)
* Smooth heavy metal throttle design
* Twisty handle for rudder control
* Cordless
* $50.00-60.00 U.S.

The part that usually "goes" first (according to others) is the twisty Rudder pots. Simple maintenance on this part keeps the stick going for a long time.

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vanelvis
05-07-2004, 01:21 PM
I went through 2 of them before I spent money on something that would last.

nickdanger3
05-07-2004, 03:31 PM
Had mine for about a year now and haven't had any problems. Maybe I'm not playing enough (must ask my wife) or not smacking it around hard enough...hmmm.

oFZo
05-07-2004, 03:58 PM
My Logitech Wingman Force 3D lasted 1.5 years, it would have lasted longer if a friend hadn't accidentally thrown a Southern Comfort & coke on it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I bought the exact same stick again without hesitation.

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LeadSpitter_
05-07-2004, 04:27 PM
do they have a freedom model that is not wireless?, im not a fan of the wireless mice and controllers, sick of the batteries always dying while playing. But that stick has the buttons positioned well

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Lav69
05-07-2004, 08:24 PM
Boy Gemini you <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">really</pre> love your joystick, huh.......geeez, get a life.

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buggggggged
05-07-2004, 10:28 PM
use as a door stop. not very scientific, but the stick doesn't rate science.

WUAF_Badsight
05-07-2004, 11:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheEngine88:

Anyone with opinions on this stick?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

. . . . THEY SUCK

mine lasted FOUR weeks

stick spring was rediculously heavy & just as it was loosening the rudder crapped out

all round junk

dont buy one ....

................

...... EVER

Bartsimpson-
05-08-2004, 10:14 AM
I got a brand new f/f wingman latest model cost me 100 bux spent 2 days trying to set it up stuck it back in the box now sitting on top of my cupboard slowly gathering dust, piece of **** if you ask me don't buy one, but if anyone out there is real desperate i'll kindly forward it on for a small price + postage of coarse .

Bartman .

NorrisMcWhirter
05-08-2004, 10:46 AM
Hi,

I had (still have, but in bits because the spring centreing post has had to be araldited back on) a Logitech Wingman 3D USB stick and it lasted just over 13 months. For about the last month of use, the stick had become a little loose and twitchy; I would say that it was play in the gimbal cage assembly, rather than the pots (which is the usual complaint) that caused the twitchiness.

And twitchiness is something you can do without when flying the 190.

I'd say that if you wanted a relatively cheap stick, and that you weren't expecting it to last forever, then the stick is not a bad choice.

I didn't buy another, though...but I might have done if I had not managed to get hold of an MSFFB2.

Cheers,
Norris

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AirBot
05-08-2004, 12:37 PM
I have had my Wingman Force 3D (a FFB stick) for a few years now. I got it because I wanted a FFB stick, and it was the only one which was affordable and of a size that would fit on my existing desk.
Quite a few people seem to claim other sticks offer better control or last longer. This could well be true, but my joystick is working fine and allows me a good degree of control.
A word of warning though: the Logitech sticks (at least the Wingman line) are infamous for their problematic pots, particularly in regard to the twist pot. There's probably no reason to expect a complete failure, but don't be surprised if your stick requires the occasional disassembly to lubricate a pot(s). However, after the fact it should work fine.

IV_JG51_Prien
05-08-2004, 03:48 PM
I'm using a logitech wingman that is over 4 years old.. works just fine.

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Tank50
05-08-2004, 04:35 PM
I had one that lasted over two years. Stick had a great feel and worked fine for views and weapons. Went to replace it and no one in my area had any. Switched to a Saitek EVO. Once I learned to adjust it for myself I got to really like it. Tough to beat the feel of a Logitech though, at least for me. Suggest you try a few in the store to see how they feel to you.

lil_labbit
05-08-2004, 06:23 PM
Don't buy one - I had a Logitech Strike Force 3D - d*mn thing had no center at all - resulting in a very unstable flight...

I got a Saitek Cyborg Evo now beside my Saitek X45 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and I'm happy with them http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Baltar
05-08-2004, 10:00 PM
I've been using a Logitech Wingman Extreme for a few years now. I don't know why mine has lasted so long with so many complaining about short life spans--maybe inconsistent manufacturing? Mine has severe rudder problems with the twisty stick style control. It's actually quite difficult right now for me to hit anything, so I'm going to have to attempt some maintenance on it once this semester is over.

I'd say I'm 'ok' with mine--it was the cheapest on the rack at the time I got it. Not sure I can recommend it though. I guess you ought to consider how much you are willing to pay. If you are willing to shell out more $$ than is necessary for a baseline stick, I'd say go with something else.