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T_O_A_D
07-08-2004, 06:48 AM
So I purchased it this week and just got done viewing it.

The burned actor was that a cameo roll from a real Pilot?

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T_O_A_D
07-08-2004, 06:48 AM
So I purchased it this week and just got done viewing it.

The burned actor was that a cameo roll from a real Pilot?

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John_Stag
07-08-2004, 06:50 AM
Yes it was. Even used his real name; Tom Evans.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>:Corporal! Where are you taking those vultures?

Corporal: Officers to the mess, NCO's to the Guardroom, Sir!

:Like hell you are, they're responsible for all this, get them to clean it up!

Corporal: But what about the officers, Sir?

:Give 'em a bloody shovel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

RocketDog
07-08-2004, 06:51 AM
Yellow nosed bast@rds! Six o'clock high coming down!

What a film...

Regards,

RocketDog.

T_O_A_D
07-08-2004, 06:54 AM
Yes very good show!

Cool now I'll go a bit of reasearch on him.

Some of the effect were cheesy but for the time I imagine great. Think what could be done now days if we still had all that equipment laying around.

It looked like they destroyed a few real ones http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif but you could tell alot were models.

My favorite scene is when the Polish kept sayin repeat please while thier British leader just kept getting aggrivated LOL The whole time they had taken the war to the Huns.
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ploughman
07-08-2004, 06:59 AM
The burned guy, I heard he was burned in the tail-gun position of a Lancaster.

Groundbait
07-08-2004, 07:09 AM
BoB had its faults but it's still a good film I think. I liked the way that the German pilots were represented in the film, as opposed to the faceless baddies portrayed in most hollywood movies.

Someone told me once that the character played by Robert Shaw is supposed to be Max Aitken. Anyone know if this is true?

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John_Stag
07-08-2004, 07:16 AM
Bob Shaw's character was based on Sailor Malan.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>:Corporal! Where are you taking those vultures?

Corporal: Officers to the mess, NCO's to the Guardroom, Sir!

:Like hell you are, they're responsible for all this, get them to clean it up!

Corporal: But what about the officers, Sir?

:Give 'em a bloody shovel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Beirut
07-08-2004, 07:24 AM
I got BOB, COD, on DVD ASAP.

It was great!!!

I watched another movie called Wings, made in 1927. Silent film, just organ music throughout. The WWI A2A scenes in biplanes and triplanes are incredible. Says this movie won the first Oscar for best film. The scenes with pilots getting shot up in their biplanes are quite painful to watch. Very realistic.

"Official Lancaster whiner"

Sandman_UK
07-08-2004, 07:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
It looked like they destroyed a few real ones http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif but you could tell alot were models.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah, in the new DVD realease they explain how they did it all. The ones you see get blown up on the ground were all full scale wooden models. Great film for its time. I also agree about the German pilots, they are very fairly portrayed in this film.

Would love to have a modern movie! Dark blue world, or whatever it was called just did not cut it for me.

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Bartsimpson-
07-08-2004, 07:27 AM
Andy!! behided you behind you!!!

yea great film have it on dvd sent away to canada for it, some of the scenes still bring a lump to my throat .

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yarbles67
07-08-2004, 08:08 AM
We need ILM or WETA to get a hold of BoB and work some magic on it. They could throw in some tracers, touch up the explosions, etc.. Still, it's a very good movie. I thought the forced perspective of the Ju87s RC planes worked well. We just need tracers and less 'Plane B from Outer Space' special fx. For some reason, burning model just never looks right. Remember the footage from 'Midway'? The carriers burning looked like burning models. How do I know? I was one of those twisted kids that like to build models and then torch 'em!

ploughman
07-08-2004, 09:03 AM
A digital make-over would've been nice for B of B, but I guess the bean-counters didn't think it a wise investment.

Well, we've got the Tom Cruise Eagle Squadron/Battle of Britain film to look forward to, where ace Nazi pilot Ben Afleck is busy clearing the skies of RAF fliers until our plucky hero arrives on the scene. Well, we'll see, you never know they might suprise us and make a really good film. The flying scenes'll be top notch either way.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-08-2004, 09:03 AM
DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Classic and yes Robert shaw did look like he was supposed to be portraying Sailor Malan. The documentary on the DVD was very good for its time and a bit of an eye opener. You would never get permission to stage 'live' dogfights like that now methinks.

Great film

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Nanuk66
07-08-2004, 09:52 AM
'Well, we've got the Tom Cruise Eagle Squadron/Battle of Britain film to look forward to'

Well i hope its nopt gonna be like the flying in Pearl Harbor. The scene in the P40's with loads of Zeros on his tail not only reminded me of the Star wars death star scene but also pissed me off too. If Cruise is flying throu the air a rooftop level with 3 109's on his 6 missing every shot they try to put into Cruise ill throw me popcorn at the screen.

Bit OT but whenever is see Ben afleck or see his name written down i always think of that Southpark episode with Cartmans's hand being Jennifer Lopez and that song 'taco taco, burritto...taco taco..etc'

buz13
07-08-2004, 10:11 AM
From what I've seen from 3rd party modders I think many of them could improve the digital effects in BoB quite a bit on the home pc.

NorrisMcWhirter
07-08-2004, 10:14 AM
Hi,

I can never remember whether it's BoB or Dark Blue World with a funny bit where the plane is badly landed and rolls up to the CO's hut to be greeted with something along the lines of 'get that bloody thing off my grass!'

Some trivia for BoB from the IMDB website:

* The large number of aircraft collected for this production made it the 11th largest air force in the world.

* 27 Spitfires in various degrees of repair were found for the film, but only five Hurricanes, three of which were flyable. The Messerschmitts and Heinkels were on loan from the Spanish Air Force.

* According to the book written about the making of the movie the production crew used more ammunition (blanks of course) to film the movie - due to the fact that directors re-shoot scenes numerous times - than was actually used in the real historical battle.

* Adolf Galland, the Luftwaffe pilot who fought during Battle of Britain, who later became the youngest German general at the age of 29, was hired as a technical advisor.

* American special effects creator 'John Fulton' was going to do the special effects for this film. He died in England before principal photography began.

* There were to have been scenes featuring Lord Beaverbrook. Alec ******ss was hired to play Lord Beaverbrook, but these scenes were cut from the script shortly before filming.

* Towards the end of the film, a British Spitfire flyer shoots down a German bomber, which then falls over central London before crashing into a railway station. This actually happened, (although the fighter used in the real incident was a Hurricane, not a Spitfire). The RAF pilot didn't shoot the bomber down, though; he had run out of ammo when he spotted the bomber apparently trying to attack Buckingham Palace. In desperation, he rammed the bomber which split in two and crashed into Victoria Station. Incredibly, he managed to parachute to safety. His own plane rammed into the ground at 350 mph. It was buried so deep that the authorities just left it there. In May 2004 the former RAF pilot was on hand as the remains of his aircraft were unearthed to make way for a new water main.

* Sir William Walton was first hired to write the score, which would have been his last. Because of his advanced age, he turned to friend Sir Malcolm Arnold for assistance with the orchestrations (which Arnold supplied, as well as writing additional cues). Producer Harry Saltzman rejected the score, stating it wasn't long enough. Ron Goodwin was hired to write a new score, but when told he would be replacing one of Walton's, his first reaction was, "Why?" Goodwin wrote the replacement score, but refused to write a replacement for Walton's final battle scene cues, thereby preserving Walton's and Arnold's credits on the film.


Cheers,
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Monson74
07-08-2004, 10:25 AM
"Whoopsy-daisy!"

Great movie http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Aero_Shodanjo
07-08-2004, 10:55 AM
I really enjoyed BoB movie, actually... Good special effects for its time.

Btw, I noticed something strange a bit. In one (or more?) aerial combat scene, the actor (Michael Caine?) didnt look straight to his gunsight when firing as if the guns of his plane could follow the directions of his eyes seeing.

But all in all, it's a good movie.

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LeadSpitter_
07-08-2004, 12:18 PM
when speilberg or lucas going to make a Band of brothers style series or movie. Having all nations squadrons and what it was like for the squadrons on the ground and in the air with todays special effects.

In the crappy series "takken" the first episode had the best b17 cgi i had ever seen, something like that is needed today in a modern wwii aviation series maybe have 5-6 episodes for each nations pilots and fighter/bomber groups. Showing all nations squadrons in thier original language so it can be appreciated worldwide. No hollywood famous actors but great actors who are not know. Like used in Band Of Brothers. The english actors played the americans so well. You dont see any famous known hollywood actor have acting skills these days.

And No 65 minutes of love story **** 5 minutes of cgi battles.

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NegativeGee
07-08-2004, 12:35 PM
Yes LS, the CGI in the first 5 minutes of "Taken" was very impressive- the B-17's were beautifully done, and looked historically accurate.

Which is why I still cannot believe the mess they made of the 109's. Not only had they CGI rendered Buchons, but they were in 1940 colours straight from the BoB! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Oh, and there was also the small issue of the instagib defensive fire but I can forgive them for that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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trumper
07-08-2004, 01:11 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifJust remember that the B o B film is 35 years old,imagine how things have changed in 35 years.I think the film is excellent,don't compare it to the effects available 35 years later.
I would like to see a raw updated version of it with the same feelings of realism as in Private Ryan .

Capt.England
07-08-2004, 01:27 PM
Right Chaps, here's a question for you all!
About 1989/1990, there was a tv series on ITV 1 about the battle for France, and carried on untill the end of the battle of Britain. This was a Drama (made for tv) series that was very good. The one thing that I can remember about it was that one pilot liked to fly upside down as he thought that over the sea the Germans would not see him.

Does anyone know what the name of this tv series was called. The only thing that I can think of is "The Few"

Sharpe26
07-08-2004, 01:36 PM
that would be "A piece of Cake" the series was based on a book by Derek Robinson

JG53Frankyboy
07-08-2004, 01:48 PM
another one was the Blacksheep TV series with Robert Conrad as Pappy Boyington http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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trumper
07-08-2004, 01:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sharpe26:
that would be "A piece of Cake" the series was based on a book by Derek Robinson<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you can get hold of the book the Making of piece of cake it is well worth a look

Capt.England
07-08-2004, 01:58 PM
WOW!!!!

Thanks Sharpe26. I knew as soon as someone mentioned the title that it would all come back to me! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Next Question is:

Is this out on DVD yet?

trumper
07-08-2004, 02:53 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifIt is out in the USA http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004W5P1/002-9531571-2179259?v=glance
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/movie/pid/1213009/a/Piece+of+Cake.htm


Can't see it on Region 2 UK yet. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Capt.England
07-08-2004, 02:59 PM
Thanks trumper! How come the only way to get it is from the US. Hold on, My folks are going on Saturday to Orlando. Any locals know any good stores that may stock it?

NTESLA
07-08-2004, 04:28 PM
Sooner than later, your prayers will come reality:

http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/bobmovie/thx1138BOB.wmv

Hope to please all of you when it comes out.

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John_Stag
07-08-2004, 04:58 PM
Very nice work! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>:Corporal! Where are you taking those vultures?

Corporal: Officers to the mess, NCO's to the Guardroom, Sir!

:Like hell you are, they're responsible for all this, get them to clean it up!

Corporal: But what about the officers, Sir?

:Give 'em a bloody shovel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

WTE_Galway
07-08-2004, 09:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt.England:
Right Chaps, here's a question for you all!
About 1989/1990, there was a tv series on ITV 1 about the battle for France, and carried on untill the end of the battle of Britain. This was a Drama (made for tv) series that was very good. The one thing that I can remember about it was that one pilot liked to fly upside down as he thought that over the sea the Germans would not see him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

interesting .. given firstly most allied planes would not fly upside down at that point in time and secondly the aerofoil of a fighter wing and tail surfaces are nor designed for sustained inverted flight

JG301_nils
07-08-2004, 09:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NorrisMcWhirter:
Hi,

I can never remember whether it's BoB or Dark Blue World with a funny bit where the plane is badly landed and rolls up to the CO's hut to be greeted with something along the lines of 'get that bloody thing off my grass!'
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was Dark Blue World:
'get that bloody thing off my grass!' ...... and then left aileron falls of http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
-
- Nice facts back there Norris, thanks

I ordered "Tuskegee Airmen" som time ago, has anyone seen that film?

WTE_Galway
07-08-2004, 09:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG301_nils:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NorrisMcWhirter:
Hi,

I can never remember whether it's BoB or Dark Blue World with a funny bit where the plane is badly landed and rolls up to the CO's hut to be greeted with something along the lines of 'get that bloody thing off my grass!'
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was Dark Blue World:
'get that bloody thing off my grass!' ...... and then left aileron falls of, LOL
-
-

I ordered "Tuskegee Airmen" som time ago, has anyone seen that film?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yes Dark Blue World captured that British attitude to a "T"

I was just reading a book yesterday that mentioned that a number of WWII RAF vet's claimed the REAL reason for the dangerous 3 plane VIC formation used by the RAF early in the war is that squadron leaders thought it LOOKED NICER !!!

AWL_Spinner
07-09-2004, 04:10 AM
Eurgh, keep your horrible shiny CGI away from this classic! Real flying sequences in films are hard enough to come by as it is, all that aerial photography still looks the business after all these years. The Buchon-related inconsistencies are a small price to pay. And there aren't THAT many SFX shots, lots of real aircraft with real smoke generators etc. make up for those that are there. It's no 633 Squadron in that regard!

Watched it the other weekend, brilliant.

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John_Stag
07-09-2004, 04:54 AM
Agreed. I wouldn't mind seeing a new film about The Battle at all; maybe even a complete remake of this classic.

But chopping the original?

No.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>:Corporal! Where are you taking those vultures?

Corporal: Officers to the mess, NCO's to the Guardroom, Sir!

:Like hell you are, they're responsible for all this, get them to clean it up!

Corporal: But what about the officers, Sir?

:Give 'em a bloody shovel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Capt.England
07-09-2004, 12:55 PM
633 Squadron, Now that was a cool film all those years ago! One thing that I liked was the movie music. Class!!!

BTW, managed to import it into FB the other day as background music. Just had to convert from MP3 to WAV. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/heart.gif

PBNA-BlueThnder
07-09-2004, 02:00 PM
Guys, is there a BOB dvd version that is not for widescreen only?

I found the dvd but could never find one that is not for widescreen.

thanks..

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tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-09-2004, 05:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NTESLA:
Sooner than later, your prayers will come reality:

http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/bobmovie/thx1138BOB.wmv

Hope to please all of you when it comes out.

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Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How you coming along with that btw ? Just curious

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NTESLA
07-09-2004, 10:40 PM
I am almost there but the details are what counts in my movies so it's better to have it done right the first time around. I am "filming" the IL2 parts to go along with the movie so sit tight ... it will come out soon and I will be the first one to anounce to all here! Thank you for asking http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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BennyMoore
07-09-2004, 11:30 PM
I, too, just bought Battle of Britain. The first time I watched it, I enjoyed it, but was irritated by the gun and bomb sounds and, to a lesser extent, the nineteen sixty nine special effects.

However, the aerial sequences and acting, and especially the fact that it's all real aircraft, won the movie over in my mind. And when I watched it the second time, I liked it even better. I'm about to watch it for the third time sometime after I finish this post.

I also liked Wings, but not as much as Battle of Britain, probably because of the lack of sound in addition to the special effects.

When it is suggested that Battle of Britain be "digitally remade," I think that the only suggestion is to touch up the film with things like muzzle smoke (no Oleg-style muzzle flashes, of course) and replace those smear-the-film-with-the-yellow-stuff explosions with realistic (not Hollywood) digital ones. I noticed that at least two of the explosions were not real explosions, but were actually done by doctoring the film.

All in all, it's a great movie and I heartily recommend it, but only for those who can take a healthy dose of cheese along with the good stuff. Don't let my criticism turn anyone away from it; I criticize everything that I like (look at how I criticize IL-2), in an attempt to get it made it better.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-09-2004, 11:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NTESLA:
I am almost there but the details are what counts in my movies so it's better to have it done right the first time around. I am "filming" the IL2 parts to go along with the movie so sit tight ... it will come out soon and I will be the first one to anounce to all here! Thank you for asking http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Good to hear have enjoyed every one of your movies so far and quite look forward to the new angle you have taken with this one. Keep up the good work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

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