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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 10:40 PM
Any answers? And why arent people considered noobs when they fly the La7?

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 10:40 PM
Any answers? And why arent people considered noobs when they fly the La7?

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 10:43 PM
It seems to me that all VVS planes except for YAKs are noob planes. All LW planes are 1337 shiet...lol.

Just the impression I got.

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 10:43 PM
You have to be skilled to fly the 262 and even more so to get a kill.
The uber props are much easier to fly and kill with.
When people say that 262 is for noobs they don't make much sense.

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 10:46 PM
Thats what I mean. I consider my self to be pretty good with the 262, and i pride myself in all my hours of practice, but why do people hate my plane?

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 10:47 PM
you get called a noob if you fly the 262, hurricane, yak3, I153 etc. any plane that if flown within its envelope is almost unbeatable with an ace pilot gets people mad...then they call you noob for flying it...the funny part is if a noob IS flying one of those four planes it becomes THE easiest plane to shoot down...a real noob plane is the LA-7 and the 109K-4 because those planes speed and altitude will keep noobs alive longer in most instances. and some fools actually think if you dont fly a 109 your a noob no matter what. go figure. as long as you keep shooting them down let them say noob all day...shoot em down enuf and they quit the game anyway screaming noob noob noob ...lol

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 10:49 PM
It is and it is not.

It is a Noob plane Because: It can outrun and outgun anything else in the air (except maybe AI gunners LOL)

It is not a Noob plane because it can be a real challenge to get it in the air and landing it back safely (to claim your kills)

anyways, you've got a big advantage when you fly this plane.

Does the engine catch fire even when CEM is off? if not, then it is a real Noob plane, in Noob servers.

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 10:58 PM
-- but why do people hate my plane?

Sounds like a realistic World War 2 "Allied" complaint about German Me262.

Keep flying it. Get em mad. Possibly, they will get another sim. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:00 PM
Hey man...i fly a K4...and I hold my own well with other planes(cept FW190...damn forward sight).

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:05 PM
Don't listen to the Noob whiners

If you can fly and land a 262 with CEM on you can fly ANY plane Dave /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:09 PM
I like G2 the most, because I can actually aim the cannon for longer than 2 shots...I love La7, I dont give a damn what people say, that plane owns.

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:10 PM
It's simple. The 262 is called a noob plane, because noobs fly it. It means nothing. It's getting to the point where all the planes are called noob planes by at least one person. then someone reads that, and does the same, and so on and so on and so on.......

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:21 PM
BuzzU wrote:
- It's simple. The 262 is called a noob plane, because
- noobs fly it. It means nothing. It's getting to the
- point where all the planes are called noob planes by
- at least one person. then someone reads that, and
- does the same, and so on and so on and so on.......
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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:31 PM
If im not mistaken P51s shot down 160 262s.
Also the Spit XIV was the first prop to shot down a jet, the 262.
So if noobs fly it the wrong way, they can easily die.

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:36 PM
Me262 is too noobish right now.But it`s engines are a pain ,so it`s not more n00bish than Yak3.

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:36 PM
dont worry about it, they are just mad in thier las yaks and hurricanes they cant turn fight with you

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 01:21 AM
The only people who complain about the 262 are the same ones who will only fly in wonder woman/no cockpit servers.

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 01:36 AM
coz that is UBER plane

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 02:17 AM
i wouldnt say 262 is a noobish plane (in fact, none of the planes is noobish, because its not just the plane that makes sure that you get kills).... the 262 is just an unfair plane... because (if its properly flow) no plane in fb has a chance against it... so if one uses it all the time on a server, i would never call him a noob or anything like that, but a lamer... just because he gives no chance of shooting him down any time to his enemy... and thats why the 262 is baned from most the servers... this is the only way to solve the problem, i think

btw: ive no problem with noobs flying the me 262... it just gives a good feeling to shoot down a 262
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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 02:31 AM
Just keep killing them in the 262, its a great a/c. Its funny when someone in a La7 calls someone else a noob, just beautiful irony.

XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 04:19 AM
BuzzU wrote:
- It's getting to the
- point where all the planes are called noob planes by
- at least one person. then someone reads that, and
- does the same, and so on and so on and so on.......



STORCH NOOB!!

XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 04:25 AM
U-2 noob /i/smilies/16x16_robot-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 04:35 AM
HAL, If I use the word "Idiot" do you feel offended??
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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 05:02 AM
Dont sweat the labelers..... People who apply those lables to folks usually dont have much skill anyway and blame the plane of thier opponent for their lack of skill.

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 05:05 AM
Von_Zero wrote:
- HAL, If I use the word "Idiot" do you feel
- offended??

No.

I would be pleased knowing you could use such a big word in a complete sentence Dave /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 06:21 PM
I took a La-7 up yesterday on a public server (I usually stick to early 109's & FW). I felt dirty - all the poor 109/FW's could do was _try_ to run away from me. La-7 is a absolutely awesome airplane, yet it's not considered to be a "noob" plane, it's available on most online servers while the 262 has been removed. It's pretty strange.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 06:25 PM
I've been flying sims since 1986. Call me what you want. If your birthday is 1980 or later, your a life noob LOL /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

This is fun, dammit!

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 06:28 PM
The La5FN/La7 are great planes,and I love them. However, i'll beat them every time with a late 109. The K4 is faster, climbs better, and has a bigger gun. Hard to beat.

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 06:38 PM
Dont see why the 262 should be banned from servers afterall it could not be banned in real life, if the 262 gets banned from servers then yaks and lags should be banned too, also bl1 dosnt seem to get banned from servers that 262 is banned from alot of the time and that A/C didnt even see combat....

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 06:53 PM
We should ban everything that is a better turn fighther than the 109 to even it up a bit and introduce a rule that states that the only tactics allowed are to fly around in circles, really low down and with all your E gone.

That should take care of all those noob planes, hehe, and allow for some quality simulations of WW2 air warfare.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 07:10 PM
m_preddy wrote:
- Why are you considered a newb if you fly a 262?


I don't know about n00b plane or not, but I allow them on my server simply because I rather enjoy hunting them.

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 07:32 PM
262's aint that tough. sure, once its fast its hard to kill, but with any mgun equipped plane spray and pray works well, only have to catch an engine with one stray bullet to take out an engine and down one

plus, dogfight maps are small... and a 262 has to land sometime (if he wants his points)... and it cant accelerate well on the level... and the pilot might knock his throttle by accident (ive killed my self enough times that way, damn those cuffs.- word for the wise, wear a tshirt.)

i consider a fight where i land with no kills more successful than if i die with 10 kills... all the glory in the world aint gonna help you unsplatter yourself.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 07:45 PM
tfu_iain1 wrote:
- 262's aint that tough. sure, once its fast its hard
- to kill, but with any mgun equipped plane spray and
- pray works well, only have to catch an engine with
- one stray bullet to take out an engine and down one



I agree.
The whining I see on my server for allowing the 262 doesn't compute. "Get up there and kick it's arse!" I type. It's not hard to kick E.T.'s arse if you try.

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:03 PM
m_preddy wrote:
- Thats what I mean. I consider my self to be pretty
- good with the 262, and i pride myself in all my
- hours of practice, but why do people hate my plane?
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Well, they usually hate people who shoots them down, no matter what plane he fly, I suggest you just ignore their inmature comments /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:37 PM
Read the quote on under my sig. Thats only part of it though.

I fly the 262 every then and it does seem to require more aim talent then the 109s do since your at very high speeds. It dosnt bother me at all when someone els uses it. You see, if you get shot down by a 262 then you know you did somthing wrong. A 262 can only take you down in a very high speed pass which means that if in fact he shot you down, then you must have been sitting their for a few seconds. You shouldnt be getting yourself in that position. Just keep the fight goin and eventually he'll do something wrong.



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So he tells me, "I ban the Me262 cause its turn rate is over modeled and it dosnt stall"... Then he takes off from his base in a Hurricane.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 08:40 PM
bazzaah2 wrote:
- ... and
- introduce a rule that states that the only tactics
- allowed are to fly around in circles, really low
- down and with all your E gone.
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I think we have, judging by most DF rooms /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 09:50 PM
I personally think the Me-262 requires a lot of skill to fly. It requires the most skill to be flown of any aircraft in FB. Nevertheless, I'll still be flying my trusty FW-190D-9! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 12:59 AM
I've been flying the 262 quite alot lately and have became fairly decent with it. Last night I shot down someone who will remain nameless. He was flying a P-40 and crowing about how he loved it and was just hanging out in la la land so I came down and smoked him. He gets mad and says that I'm flying such a "wussy" plane. I then told him that I also flew the yaks, la's and hurris and that I was just learning the 262, his response was "Yea that's what I'd say too. Needless to say he was a ground vulching straffer who got hammered for the next 15 mins, became mad and left.

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 01:41 AM
Yep, its a nccb plane all right. I confirmed it Sat. on Gemini's server (bless his heart). In fact I vulched ol' Gem himself in it while he was warming up his P-39, and even now I'm grinning like an idiot just thinking about it. Don't worry Gem, I'll be back, so you'll have another chance /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

What's this nonsense about "landing to collect points"?? What a waste of time! Half the time I don't get the points after seeing "Enemy Aircraft: Destroyed" anyway, even if I do land.

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 02:03 AM
I love the 262

It's a good trim on a slider plane.

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