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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:01 PM
Hi.

Been flying LA7 for two weeks, and tonight I noticed, that when I dive and get to the speed of more than 600 kph, the plane can't take it, it't wings just tear off!! Is that normal or do I have some wrong setup enabled?

Juukeli

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:01 PM
Hi.

Been flying LA7 for two weeks, and tonight I noticed, that when I dive and get to the speed of more than 600 kph, the plane can't take it, it't wings just tear off!! Is that normal or do I have some wrong setup enabled?

Juukeli

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:04 PM
Sounds normal to me (or at least my experiences). Russian planes tended to use alot of wood if I recall and the same can be said of the La-7 which is probably why its modeled that way...

I actually got a couple of people (in La-7s) to follow my FW190 into a power dive online the other day. Most of them pulled out in-time but one guy crashed into the ground, the majority of his control surfaces having been ripped off.

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:07 PM
That's LA-7's only weakness.

Now Oleg simulated Russian fighter's crudeness. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
(I'm not bashing Russian! )

Accept it and don't follow diving German.

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:09 PM
Never happpened to me

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:09 PM
Thanks 4 quick answers. I'll stop looking the wrong setup
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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:12 PM
Oops, forgot to mention...1.11.

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:13 PM
Hey MD_TOPGUN_YG, try it and tell me if it's happening to you. Climb to 2500 and dive.

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:19 PM
it happens to everybody ... gotta learn to control your speed while diving in those russian planes.. throttle back & reduce prop pitch .. open up cowl flaps and don't dive as steep

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:28 PM
600 km/h? I got up to 800 km/h and the wings were fine. The final patch seems to have made the balsa wood stronger.

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:41 PM
- I actually got a couple of people (in La-7s) to
- follow my FW190 into a power dive online the other
- day. Most of them pulled out in-time but one guy
- crashed into the ground, the majority of his control
- surfaces having been ripped off.

Imagine my surprise! I haven't normally flown Russian planes, was used to German ones. But jumped into a n00b plane to maintain server balance, was diving away, but just couldn't pull out. At first I thought it was "bad FM at high speed."

XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 09:42 PM
I thought that the La7 was an all-metal fighter? I know that the La5 was partly made of wood, but the La7 was all metal. Perhaps it was made of tin foil? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Hunter82
09-09-2003, 09:45 PM
they gel coated it....



BuzzU wrote:
- 600 km/h? I got up to 800 km/h and the wings were
- fine. The final patch seems to have made the balsa
- wood stronger.
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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 10:04 PM
I noticed that last night off line too. Although if I am not mistaken my speedbar was somwhere in the 700s.... Unless that was my speed after i lost my wings and fell like a rock..../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 10:22 PM
La7's and La5FN's have always done that in FB: 690 kph control surfaces, 700 + there go the wings. Of course this varies with stick pull and G forces. I don't even climb past 2500 in these things because they accelerate so fast in dive u have to cut engine and waste so much energy getting target on deck. Because of this these are better as turn and burn than Boom and Zoom, cuz generally Boom will be wings leaving ur aircraft.

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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2003, 10:23 PM
Its great isnt it? lol
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XyZspineZyX
09-10-2003, 12:14 AM
LA-7 was not all metal plane.. it had metal parts in wings, but wooden parts in fuselage.. Same goes for La5-FN.. LA-9 was the first Lavochin to be full metal..

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XyZspineZyX
09-10-2003, 12:35 AM
Yep. I never take red planes to over 650. Americans I believe will manage 700, but only just.... Don't take my word for it.


I got a 109 to get into a turn fight, and the guy was good at turning, followed me through lots... until he lost so much energy that he stalled out of hit the ground.

XyZspineZyX
09-10-2003, 12:42 AM
Yep. Was on a coop yesterday with a Squadmate. I was used to LA7, but he wasn`t. He asked about Supercharger change and all that, all normal. We came across 2 bfs attacking the IL2s we were escourting. He went into a dive while I went for the other bogey. Suddenly, he was in bits on the ground! I had no idea he didn`t know about the break up of the LA at high speed! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

This weakness of the LA7 was in 1.1b as well.

I`ve read that the Germans used to exploit this weakness by diving when in trouble in reality.
Their planes could take the stress while the Russians had to pull out. Realistic I think.




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XyZspineZyX
09-10-2003, 01:36 AM
GreySaber14 wrote:
- Yep. I never take red planes to over 650. Americans
- I believe will manage 700, but only just.... Don't
- take my word for it.

I havn't really tried the rest, but the P-47 is fine till 1150 km/h when it looses its control surfaces, and 1199km/h when it spontaneously combusts. Mind you, that was diving straight down on purpose to see what speed it could reach. I have no idea what would have happened if I'd tried moving the stick at say 1100. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-10-2003, 01:46 AM
Just took a P-47 1944 model to 1100+ in a dive.
No loss of controls. But when I started to pull up....
BOOM. Speed was 1089.