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Tooz_69GIAP
06-18-2004, 10:50 AM
Some great stuff from Luthier here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com)!!!

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/69giap/fileadmin/Image_Archive/badges/69giap_badge_tooz.jpg
Za Rodinu!

Petition to stop the M3 motorway through the Tara-Skryne Valley in Co. Meath, Ireland (http://www.petitiononline.com/hilltara/petition.html)

Tooz_69GIAP
06-18-2004, 10:50 AM
Some great stuff from Luthier here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com)!!!

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/69giap/fileadmin/Image_Archive/badges/69giap_badge_tooz.jpg
Za Rodinu!

Petition to stop the M3 motorway through the Tara-Skryne Valley in Co. Meath, Ireland (http://www.petitiononline.com/hilltara/petition.html)

catahoulak9
06-18-2004, 11:02 AM
I'll buy it to open the canopy if nothing else!

Capt._Tenneal
06-18-2004, 11:13 AM
There's a sticky post up at the very top announcing the same thing.

But, anyways, yes nice update. It's good to hear from Luthier after almost a months' silence too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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06-18-2004, 11:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by catahoulak9:
I'll buy it to open the canopy if nothing else!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Great pics! But to be honest.. If I had a list of all the things that could be modeled.. opening the canopy would be very Very VERY far DOWN on the list... Off hand I can think of a dozen things I would rater see the team spend thier time and money on that would enhance the game more so than an open canopy IMHO

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wcat
06-18-2004, 11:48 AM
quote:Originally posted by catahoulak9:
I'll buy it to open the canopy if nothing else!

Play CFS2...Canopy opens in it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

wcat

LeadSpitter_
06-18-2004, 11:56 AM
the b29 skin looks absolutley horable, the other shots are not to bad and the opening canopy looks great,

I will not buy PF if ubi decides to make PF a stand alone not including all maps and aircraft of il2fb and aep.


Its not the 10 dollars extra but ubi should not treat its customers who been buying ubi games for years by ruining the online community.

If ubi doesnt read this then I guess my -$40 will be heard better, like the germans russians some brits and US feel the same way in the online community.

Whats the deal with FB/AEP 2.02 like many im waiting with version 2.01 and was announced it would be released last week

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Capt._Tenneal
06-18-2004, 12:02 PM
the b29 skin looks absolutley horable

That's why we'll need talented skinners like you to do it proud, Lead. Hopefully...if you'll buy PF... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

jensenpark
06-18-2004, 12:03 PM
can you imagine trying to take down a Superfort?

combine laser ai targeting by the gunners and the size of that plane? And add in fighter performance (or lack of) at 30k feet where it'll loiter...

Going to have to rely on AAA to bring it down...

Sure looks great though!

http://www.corsair-web.com/thistler/rtfoxint.jpg
Buzz Beurling flying his last sortie over Malta, Oct.24, 1942

Gibbage1
06-18-2004, 12:11 PM
The same party line LS. I still dont understand why a company wanting to make more money gets under your skin so bad. Ubi/1C has already given you more free aircraft and maps then any other company, but you want even more. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Some people will never be happy. Please consider this. PF will have more changes to the engine, new features, and new aircraft then FB had. A LOT more. I dont remember you crying and having a fit over FB?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
the b29 skin looks absolutley horable, the other shots are not to bad and the opening canopy looks great,

I will not buy PF if ubi decides to make PF a stand alone not including all maps and aircraft of il2fb and aep.


Its not the 10 dollars extra but ubi should not treat its customers who been buying ubi games for years by ruining the online community.

If ubi doesnt read this then I guess my -$40 will be heard better, like the germans russians some brits and US feel the same way in the online community.

Whats the deal with FB/AEP 2.02 like many im waiting with version 2.01 and was announced it would be released last week

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/LSIG1.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

MPortus_
06-18-2004, 12:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
the b29 skin looks absolutley horable, the other shots are not to bad and the opening canopy looks great,

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Honestly, I thought it was your work. I'm serious, looks your metalic style, and doesn't look that bad IMHO.

Dammerung
06-18-2004, 12:42 PM
Looks like B-29 busting is going to become a new sport in place of Me-321 Busting...

Sign me up.

Oh, there are no fighter pilots down in hell...
Oh, there are no fighter pilots down in hell...
The whole damn place is full of queers, navigators, and bombadiers...
Oh, there are no fighter pilots down in hell...

LeadSpitter_
06-18-2004, 05:44 PM
Gibbage1 who the hells crying im making a statement im not buying PF because of the extremely poor decision that ubi made and many other feel the same way, Im sure alot of americans brits and japanese will buy it, but it might be a failure like lock on modern combat becuase of the poor marketing decision.

i want to to help luthier out but wont, aep/fb need the engine tweaks PF has and how hard is it to move maps and the same aircraft over to the PF engine.

Like I said before its not about the money.

all theaters, maps and planesets in one game equals more choices which is a good thing. Whos having a fit gibbage the only one i see bytch and whine hardcore is you they arent getting my pby if .50s arent fixed no models for luthier like they care.

So ill be in aep/FB with the great brits german russian finnish australian and US players for the 4-5 months PF is out then BOB ill buy. PF will fail like lomac


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"gibbage1"
The same party line LS. I still dont understand why a company wanting to make more money gets under your skin so bad. Ubi/1C has already given you more free aircraft and maps then any other company, but you want even more. Some people will never be happy. Please consider this. PF will have more changes to the engine, new features, and new aircraft then FB had. A LOT more. I dont remember you crying and having a fit over FB?
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Atomic_Marten
06-18-2004, 06:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
the b29 skin looks absolutley horable, the other shots are not to bad and the opening canopy looks great,

I will not buy PF if ubi decides to make PF a stand alone not including all maps and aircraft of il2fb and aep.


Its not the 10 dollars extra but ubi should not treat its customers who been buying ubi games for years by ruining the online community.

If ubi doesnt read this then I guess my -$40 will be heard better, like the germans russians some brits and US feel the same way in the online community.

Whats the deal with FB/AEP 2.02 like many im waiting with version 2.01 and was announced it would be released last week

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/LSIG1.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It would be great though if we have a PF compatible with IL-2 AEP. I think they should do it. However, I dunno if that's gonna happen... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

I see no other option than to stuck with IL-2 AEP. PF will sure be great game, maybe in some elements better than IL-2 AEP, but still...

KAMI_1
06-18-2004, 11:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
So ill be in aep/FB with the great brits german russian finnish australian and US players for the 4-5 months PF is out then BOB ill buy.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


LOL Optimist Did u really think that BOB will come out in Spring 2005??

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Weather_Man
06-19-2004, 12:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I will not buy PF if ubi decides to make PF a stand alone not including all maps and aircraft of il2fb and aep.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes you will.

And if I'm wrong, well then, who cares? I'll be playing PF with everyone else except you then.

I JG3 Troz
06-19-2004, 07:07 AM
Leadspitter,
you should be ashamed of yourself. I have NEVER seen a company that sells pc games do so many things it doesn't have to do for its customers. They even have this forum so they can get direct feed back from their customers AND THEY EVEN READ IT. If you won't buy PF because it is not exactly as you think it should be, DON'T BUY IT. I, for one, will be more than happy to buy PF as a stand alone game, I think stand alone is the way to go with it. If you are that worried about forking over a mere $40 dollars for another fine UBI product, maybe you need a better job?
As for "ruining the community" i think posts like yours do more to that end than anything UBI could do.

sorry, i do not like to make hostile posts, but these "i'm taking my ball and going home" posts really piss me off.

S!

JG52Uther
06-19-2004, 07:23 AM
well ,afraid i am with LS on this one.As a Brit i have very little interest in PF,and i think it would be better as an addon,but i doubt that will happen.BoB will be the next big thing for me,although as i fly for an axis squad i will probably end up bombing my home town http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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DuxCorvan
06-19-2004, 07:37 AM
Once and again: http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

Sorry for the shouts, but there are many deaf people around here:

1) MOST OF US WANT PF TO BE SOLD AS STAND-ALONE.

but...

2) MOST OF US, FB OWNERS, WANT PF TO BE ABLE TO IMPORT FB STUFF SOMEHOW.

because...

3) WE WANT ALL STUFF TOGETHER, WE WANT PF IMPROVEMENTS FOR PREVIOUS STUFF, and WE WANT SOME PF FLYABLES AS F4F, BEAUFIGHTER, PBY OR B-25 ALSO OVER EUROPE.

and all this...

4) WITHOUT UBI LOSING MONEY (BOTH GAMES SOLD SEPARATELY) AND WITHOUT PF WHINERS LOSING ANYTHING.

Cough... cough... agh... all these cries are soring my throat, cough... cough... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

It's not that hard to understand, and I still don't believe some people not wanting this. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

- Dux Corvan -
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Ten thousand years of Cantabrian skinning.

Zayets
06-19-2004, 07:41 AM
I buy any decent flight sim,heck I even bought cfs3,nothing will stop me to buy PF or BoB. Question is, how many like me are out there?Joe will want to try that Me262 against the superforts,simply because is nothing that can bring them down.Or any other combination.If there will be a split between PF and IL2 in online matches,I don't think either AEP or FB will last for long in online arenas. But maybe UBI got enough money already from selling IL2,FB,AEP and soon PF,so probably they will not care about it.

Zayets out

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Willi_Wombat
06-19-2004, 08:12 AM
Leadspitter,

Your whining is getting better than your maturity and your grammar, which, uh, isn't that hard to surpass. Calm down, grow up, learn to say thank you; or better yet, nothing at all.

WW

DuxCorvan
06-19-2004, 08:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zayets:
I buy any decent flight sim,heck I even bought cfs3,nothing will stop me to buy PF or BoB. Question is, how many like me are out there? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

But, it's not only a question for onliners. We offliners are also affected.

Look, Zayets, I think you're Rumanian. And I know you like mission building.

Do you know B-24s are going to be available on PF, but not in FB?

So, forget about a Ploesti raid mission. Do you like that? And that's only an example.

Loads of projects that were on development for FB by 3rd party modelers were 'napped' by PF when Luthier came sharing money and cured ham.

If PF is not FB compatible, you'll never see these multi-scenario aircraft in FB, unless they do include them in a patch for FB. But that's unlikely, once they have a 'new baby'.

Even mostly only-ETO planes such as Mosquitos, Typhoon, He 177, Avia B.534, I-15, Pe-2, Hs 129, etc. which are in an advanced stage of development are now in serious danger, for 1C is likely to close FB development if PF has nothing to do with it.

Get my point? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

- Dux Corvan -
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Ten thousand years of Cantabrian skinning.

PapaSmurf630
06-19-2004, 08:29 AM
Nice post Willi http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I don't see the point of having B29's over europe...isn't that very unrealistic?? This is supposed to be a simulator isn't it?? Do I really want to see BF109's over Midway?

TAGERT.
06-19-2004, 10:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Once and again: http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

Sorry for the shouts, but there are many deaf people around here:

1) MOST OF US WANT PF TO BE SOLD AS STAND-ALONE.

but...

2) MOST OF US, FB OWNERS, WANT PF TO BE ABLE TO IMPORT FB STUFF SOMEHOW.

because...

3) WE WANT ALL STUFF TOGETHER, WE WANT PF IMPROVEMENTS FOR PREVIOUS STUFF, and WE WANT SOME PF FLYABLES AS F4F, BEAUFIGHTER, PBY OR B-25 ALSO OVER EUROPE.

and all this...

4) WITHOUT UBI LOSING MONEY (BOTH GAMES SOLD SEPARATELY) AND WITHOUT PF WHINERS LOSING ANYTHING.

Cough... cough... agh... all these cries are soring my throat, cough... cough... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

It's not that hard to understand, and I still don't believe some people not wanting this. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

- Dux Corvan -
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Agreed 100%

I can not belive so many people are misinterpreting what LS is saying.. DUX sum it up nicely..

IT IS NOT ABOUT THE $40.00 IT IS ALL ABOUT THE ON-LINE COMMUNITY!

LS is saying the same thing.. but only took it one step farther.. LS said he will not buy it! LS even went as far as to note it is not about the money.. Yet some still dinged him for it.. I guess the big difference here is LS is a man based on principles... People without principles typically have a problem understanding people with them... Which is most likely the case here!

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TAGERT.
06-19-2004, 10:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Loads of projects that were on development for FB by 3rd party modelers were 'napped' by PF when Luthier came sharing money and cured ham.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That simple FACT makes me think that deep down they will make the IL2 aircraft and maps aval to PF in some way... Otherwise they are going to have alot more people like LS runnin around in here

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NN_EnigmuS
06-19-2004, 10:58 AM
does gibbage to all the project originaly make for AEp who go for PF,if they are not compatible it really suck

i'm talking about boston and beaufighter for example,but if some modelers(one dealing with war in western and eastern europe)send their work both to aep and Pf for inclusion everybody will be pleased

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