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WildeSau
08-11-2004, 02:41 AM
Hi,

I am wondering if people who play IL/FB also play other WWII flight sims.

I have to admit that since I have IL/FB on my harddisk, I didn't touch any other sim - not even any other game.

Nevertheless I think the following other WWII flight sims are also worth to be played:

- European Air War
- Janes WWII Fighters
- MS CFS I

What are your other favorite WWII flight sims?

Greetings

Michael the WildeSau

WildeSau
08-11-2004, 02:41 AM
Hi,

I am wondering if people who play IL/FB also play other WWII flight sims.

I have to admit that since I have IL/FB on my harddisk, I didn't touch any other sim - not even any other game.

Nevertheless I think the following other WWII flight sims are also worth to be played:

- European Air War
- Janes WWII Fighters
- MS CFS I

What are your other favorite WWII flight sims?

Greetings

Michael the WildeSau

Sarpedon688
08-11-2004, 02:45 AM
Aces over Europe when i feel like flying a mozzie. Once one of these in IL/FB i'm afraid its gonna die a slow death

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Freefalldart
08-11-2004, 03:18 AM
EAW, CFS2 and BF1942 (which flight model is better suited to my skills) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Monson74
08-11-2004, 03:24 AM
I bought EAW shortly after the original IL2 came out - loaded it a couple of times but have never even thought about it since. I don't think anything can touch IL2/FB right now.

S!

Monson


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cueceleches
08-11-2004, 03:27 AM
Not a flightsim, but WW2 related: Call of Duty. Just still impressive.

Cippacometa
08-11-2004, 04:24 AM
I used to play CFS2 and CFS3.
Since I discovered IL-2 FB, they did not come out of their boxes anymore.

triggerhappyfin
08-11-2004, 05:25 AM
I bought CFS3 when it came out and got disappointed - put it aside.

After a while when patches and 3:rd part addons/aircraft beeing available - I find it somewhat nice to alternate to on occasion. FM‚¬īs beeing critisized, I find some things better. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif You surely dont dive from high alt, without taking it easy,with bombers or even do aerobatics with them in CFS3 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif. You can fly B-25, B-17 and JU-88 in it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif
Skyes and clouds are beutiful.
CFS-series certainly do have it‚¬īs highlights whitch I miss in IL-2 series. Big maps http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/heart.gif.
I don‚¬īt play it online though.

IL-2 series beeing number one though http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

FS2004 is quite nice too - nice to fly the DC-3! Dynamic weather...yummy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

Sometimes I go back to my old and dear Gunship by Microprose - a briljant helosim, old but still kickin and alive with a community caring about it and still developing it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.
FM is hard and fun, nice features as ability to request artillery fire and support. moving infantry and lots of tanks witch are beautifully animated. Was top of art in its days. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Lock On - nice but rarely visited by me.
Hard on my system - may be good next year wit my new system http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
Online gaming sucks. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Strike Fighters P1 - quite nice too with a community caring for it - Lots of new planes by 3:rd part.

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TgD Thunderbolt56
08-11-2004, 05:50 AM
Any other WWII flight sims you play?

No. At least not until Pacific Fighters comes out, then I'll have to split my attention between the ETO and the PTO. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif



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F16_txmx
08-11-2004, 06:13 AM
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What a classic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Bearcat99
08-11-2004, 06:43 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif What other flight sims?
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif There are other flight sims??!!
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S 8
08-11-2004, 07:30 AM
Their finest hour:Battle of Britain.Played that a lot on my Atari 1040STE.Took a half a second to change view http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and flew it with mouse.(took a lifetime to do a roll otherwise) ahhhh,nostalgia.

Zayets
08-11-2004, 07:37 AM
Sometimes load cfs2,but this will go away from my drive after PF.
What I play currently when I'm not doing my skins
-Soldiers
-18 Wheels of Steel
-Total Club Manger 2004

Lost interest in Strike Fighters and Lomac,sometimes I fire up F4 but that's it. I hope a real jet fighter sim will come.
I was thinking also to buy latest X-Plane.I have 6.0.Heard that Fighter Ops teamed with Laminar research,this is good because the FM will be the best ever in a flight sim,way better than IL2 but this is very subjective.Don't know yet how this will be compared with BoB.Have to wait and see.

Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2004, 08:28 AM
Target:Rabaul (http://www.targetware.net). Absolutely better than FB for flight models, scale maps, real campaigns...and a community that's as active (and rabid) as this one.

On the horizon, the project I'm heavily involved with, Target:Tobruk (http://targettobruk.twsim.net/), will be the first Med campaign done correctly, with Malta, N. Africa, Tunisia and Sicily campaigns faithfully simulated...then later on, we'll add in Greece '40 and Crete '41.

Also available in Targetware for the same nickel are Target:Korea and WWI's Richthofen's Skies (http://www.richthofens-skies.com/). Also in earlier stages of dev is Target:Hanoi, where Vietnam will be covered. There are already rumblings that a Battle of Britain mod will spring up from the planeset created by :Tobruk, but, well, you'll get that fix here soon.

But, it's still in beta, and not yet widely publicized, so the attendance figures are low.

I only return to FB anymore for the numbers (at Hyperlobby).

Want a quick preview taste of the action? Here's an after action report (http://www.naysayers.com/9jg52/Buin_Defense.htm) I created this past weekend during a small test of a Target:Rabaul scenario at Bougainville.

LEXX_Luthor
08-11-2004, 09:42 AM
Stiglr, after action report Link does not work, at least here.

Zayets:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Lost interest in Strike Fighters and Lomac,sometimes I fire up F4 but that's it. I hope a real jet fighter sim will come.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
With real Flyable crapp jets http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

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Zayets
08-11-2004, 10:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
http://www.targetware.net. Absolutely better than FB for flight models, scale maps, real campaigns...and a community that's as active (and rabid) as this one.

On the horizon, the project I'm heavily involved with, http://targettobruk.twsim.net/, will be the first Med campaign done _correctly_, with Malta, N. Africa, Tunisia and Sicily campaigns faithfully simulated...then later on, we'll add in Greece '40 and Crete '41.

Also available in Targetware for the same nickel are Target:Korea and WWI's http://www.richthofens-skies.com/. Also in earlier stages of dev is Target:Hanoi, where Vietnam will be covered. There are already rumblings that a Battle of Britain mod will spring up from the planeset created by :Tobruk, but, well, you'll get that fix here soon.

But, it's still in beta, and not yet widely publicized, so the attendance figures are low.

I only return to FB anymore for the numbers (at Hyperlobby).

Want a quick preview taste of the action? Here's an http://www.naysayers.com/9jg52/Buin_Defense.htm I created this past weekend during a small test of a Target:Rabaul scenario at Bougainville.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Stiglr,
Can you elaborate a bit.You made me curious now.What do I need to play this game? Visited the site.Everything I need to try this I can found on that site?

Zayets out

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Zayets
08-11-2004, 10:37 AM
HOLLY SMACK!
You can play in Linux as well!This worth a try.

Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2004, 10:37 AM
Yep, everything you need is at the Targetware.net site.

My AAR won't work until later today or tomorrow. Just discovered I had to renew my domain.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/1072.gif

UPDATE: The AAR's back up now...

[This message was edited by Stiglr on Wed August 11 2004 at 09:50 PM.]

RJNewly
08-11-2004, 11:01 AM
This looks totally awesome- especially the WWI game Richthoffens Sky. I'm going to sign up tonight for the trial.

El Turo
08-11-2004, 11:01 AM
I've farted around at Jane's in my past quite a bit, moved to WWIIOL a little over three years ago and have been playing here at IL2/FB since it came out as well.

IL2/FB is by far the best I've played thus far, although I hear outstanding things about the "Target:" series as well.

WWIIOL is not a flight-only game so the flight-regime is a little bit limited, but it's especially nice for the huge variety of ground targets if you're into moving mud.

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RJNewly
08-11-2004, 11:02 AM
Siglr,

What is the cost for the membership?


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
http://www.targetware.net. Absolutely better than FB for flight models, scale maps, real campaigns...and a community that's as active (and rabid) as this one.

On the horizon, the project I'm heavily involved with, http://targettobruk.twsim.net/, will be the first Med campaign done _correctly_, with Malta, N. Africa, Tunisia and Sicily campaigns faithfully simulated...then later on, we'll add in Greece '40 and Crete '41.

Also available in Targetware for the same nickel are Target:Korea and WWI's http://www.richthofens-skies.com/. Also in earlier stages of dev is Target:Hanoi, where Vietnam will be covered. There are already rumblings that a Battle of Britain mod will spring up from the planeset created by :Tobruk, but, well, you'll get that fix here soon.

But, it's still in beta, and not yet widely publicized, so the attendance figures are low.

I only return to FB anymore for the numbers (at Hyperlobby).

Want a quick preview taste of the action? Here's an http://www.naysayers.com/9jg52/Buin_Defense.htm I created this past weekend during a small test of a Target:Rabaul scenario at Bougainville.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

El Turo
08-11-2004, 11:05 AM
I believe that the Target: beta is free for download and use.

Callsign "Turo" in IL2:FB & WWIIOL
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I thought,
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RJNewly
08-11-2004, 11:16 AM
Cool!


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by El Turo:
I believe that the Target: beta is free for download and use.

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2004, 01:46 PM
It is free now during the beta, but not indefinitely.

Once it goes gold, all Targetware modules, that's :Korea, :Rabaul, Richthofen's Skies, plus the under-development :Tobruk and :Hanoi modules, and perhaps others added on later, will all be accessible to subscribers, 24/7 on the metaserver, all you can fly for just $10/month.

Nobody will have a wider selection, chronologically speaking, of flight sim eras represented than Targetware.

XyZspineZyX
08-11-2004, 01:49 PM
As for WWIIOL, their flight module is actually pretty fun, and they have what I consider to be the best "icon system" in existence, as well as some great pilot injury stuff.

However, other aspects of the FM seem a bit off. Also, for the entire sim, their admitted prioritization of 'making the product fun' rather than accurate (no better an example of which is their idea to "balance" the Battle of France so that the beleagured Allies can have fun, too), really slam a couple of nails in the coffin for me.

Kaesebrot.
08-11-2004, 02:03 PM
At the Moment im only into IL2+FB+ACE+Whatever *g*

But in did play (probably i‚¬īll forget something)

Red Baron 1+2
Aces of the Pacific
Aces over Europe
US Navy Fighters
Falcon 4.0
F18 Interceptor
WWII Fighters
Eurofighter Typhoon
European Air War
Wings of Fury http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
....and some others whose titles i forgot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

nearmiss
08-11-2004, 06:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
http://www.targetware.net. Absolutely better than FB for flight models, scale maps, real campaigns...and a community that's as active (and rabid) as this one.

On the horizon, the project I'm heavily involved with, http://targettobruk.twsim.net/, will be the first Med campaign done _correctly_, with Malta, N. Africa, Tunisia and Sicily campaigns faithfully simulated...then later on, we'll add in Greece '40 and Crete '41.

Also available in Targetware for the same nickel are Target:Korea and WWI's http://www.richthofens-skies.com/. Also in earlier stages of dev is Target:Hanoi, where Vietnam will be covered. There are already rumblings that a Battle of Britain mod will spring up from the planeset created by :Tobruk, but, well, you'll get that fix here soon.

But, it's still in beta, and not yet widely publicized, so the attendance figures are low.

I only return to FB anymore for the numbers (at Hyperlobby).

Want a quick preview taste of the action? Here's an http://www.naysayers.com/9jg52/Buin_Defense.htm I created this past weekend during a small test of a Target:Rabaul scenario at Bougainville.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You need to mention...Targetware's Target Rabaul is only an ONLINE sim. There is no AI for offline play.

I wasted a day on the thing reading, loading flying and finally realizing after reading more poop the sim is headed to subscription fees per month and will be ONLINE only.

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Treetop64
08-11-2004, 06:40 PM
Other flight sims played:

- Microsoft CFS II and CFS III w/Firepower add-on. I later removed these from the hard disk, not because of any deficiencies but because IL-2 AEP is just sooo damned good that I simply stopped playing them.

- Microsoft Flight Sim 2004. Still on the hard drive and will NEVER be removed. I spend about as much time with this as with IL-2.

- LOMAC. Just to put a modern tilt on military flying and to see just how different air combat is now.

- Eurofighter Typhoon. For when I don't feel like putting any thought into air combat. Good fun, though!

- Total Air War. God, I wish I still had this one...

Tooz_69GIAP
08-11-2004, 06:58 PM
Well, IL-2 is pretty much theonly flight sim I have tried seriously (I don't include crappy console sims I've tried o the PS/PS2/N64 - I've even forgotten the names, hehe), although I have dabbled with Lock On, but it's way too buggy, and very very tech oriented!! Although I haven't tried it since the last patch.

I have played CoD, but after completing it in 9 hours in the first run, then 7 hours in the second run, then 8 hours in the next run on veteren setting, I put it away (I wanted an offline war based FPS that would give me some good long play).

I play America's Army quite a bit. That game rocks, especially coz it's free (although is online only).

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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Stretch_ACL_
08-11-2004, 07:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by F16_txmx:
http://www.thelegacy.de/pics/screen/t/T_3760_1091805153_BOB5.png

http://www.thelegacy.de/pics/screen/t/T_3760_1091805156_BOB10.png

What a classic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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What a classic indeed. That was my first real flight sim! I always wondered if anybody even remembered the original Battle of Britain (Their Finest Hour). All this talk about how it was state of the art to man various gun positions and stuff. I did it in 1989/90. I was 8 or 9 years old flying Spitfires. My computer was blistering. 2.86 with a CGA monitor (pink ground, pink planes, it was great!) 2 floppy drives and a DOS prompt to fire it all up and fly with my barely 2 axis stick. I even got the big sales poster the Software stores put up in the window from a friend of my dad's who owned the store. I found the thick book that came with it recently too. Its a good read actually in the history section. First person accounts and stats. Pretty good. Still have the game and even that huge BOB poster but no computer to play on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Man those were good times. Bombers, fighters, dive-bombers, it had everything (except clouds, trees, all the trivial stuff that get in the way. lol) Classic!

Great somebody remembers the good ones. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[This message was edited by Stretch_ACL_ on Wed August 11 2004 at 06:20 PM.]

BaldieJr
08-11-2004, 07:11 PM
Just a word about Targetwares game...

I tried target rabual a few weeks ago and had a really great time online. I didn't do overly well, but I still had fun. The teamplay was excellent, giving me the feeling of being part of some battle in the pacific. It was a great change of pace.

I will be playing more when my controls are working again.

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Maj_Death
08-11-2004, 07:27 PM
I don't play any other WW2 flight sims at the moment because this is the only modern one (MSCFS series are not flight sims BTW). I do however play some other flight sims including LOMAC, Janes F/A-18 and even EE:CH occasionally. I used to play EAW, the Red Baron series, the entire Aces series and Pacific Air War. I loved them all but they are so out of date at this point that I don't think my PC will even run them except for EAW.

I do play one other WW2 sim though, it is called OFP:R with some of those WW2 addons. I love my unbeatable uber deathray sometimes refered to as the MG42. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/sonar.gif

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Werre_Fsck
08-11-2004, 07:36 PM
After I got IL2 I bought CFS and EAW.. both are still in my gameshelf, once or twice opened. I just got too much hooked in IL2 :-)

Still occasionally try Rowans BoB since it has some really cool things modelled (like Stonehenge) and the big formations, even if they are modelled so-so (damaged planes don't fall of formations) it looks cool.

XyZspineZyX
08-11-2004, 09:18 PM
Sorry, nearmiss.

For me, offline only is a sideshow (especially the way the AI "cheats"), so I don't even make the distinction. For me, offline play is irrelevant, unless it's practice. I know that isn't so for IL-2...

Still, I hope that didn't sour you on Targetware completely? I would hope you're not one of those "offline only" players who hide behind their little cardboard box and won't come out and play with the rest of us? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

wayno7777
08-11-2004, 10:11 PM
Oh gawd, I have so many. The only other one on the HD right now is Falcon 4.0 w/SP4. As for other sims I have, it's a long list:
The Sierra Aces collection, including
Aces Over Europe
Aces of the Pacific
Red Baron
A-10 Tank Kiler
A-10 II Silent Hunter
Fighter Squadron
Jane's F-15
F-22 Lightning II
Enemy Engaged: Apache vs. Havoc
B-17
B-17 II: The Mighty Eighth
Jane's Fighters Anthology
Jane's WWII Fighters
EAW and the Desert Air War mod
Mig Alley
Comanche Gold
Air Warrior III
Fly!
MSFS 98
CFS1+2, Tuskegee Fighters and The RAF Collection
Fighter Ace 3.5
Luftwaffe Commander
Sabre Ace
F-16 Multi-role Fighter
Red Baron 3D
Warbirds
Aces High
Dawn of Aces
Vietman Med Evac

Before IL-2 I mainly played EAW and WWII
Fighters. Always been warbird crazy!

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DarthBane_
08-12-2004, 12:56 AM
Problem is there is no other sim. Ancient games were gud, specialy Janes WW2. Mcsft series was never competitive, bunch of farmers made a sim that was never gud. Lack of competition on sim market is creating a lot of problems for us simmers. If there was, after so many years of Il2, and payed addons, we would have all ai planes flyable. Anyway Il2 is one and only at the time.

LEXX_Luthor
08-12-2004, 01:09 AM
Just for kicks I still play original DOS Su~27 Flaker 1.0 On Athalon 2000+ with pure MSDOS 6.22 it handles over 500 aircraft in the air at one time, not counting hundreds of SAMS. Flaker was designed for 486 CPU. This allows simming a full scale WAR that covers the entire Crimea region far beyond your own cockpit and with re~arm and re~fuel you can really take part in a long running battle.

I have the LOMAC but honestly it stinks except for the nite sky with entirely correct star positions, star brightness, and even star colours. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif I bought the thing just for that alone. Otherwise LOMAC has no Flyable real jets. I hate glass cockpit simming.

I can't believe LOMAC still uses an inflated size Noob flight sim moon. The FB moon is much more correct size...very small only 0.5 degree apparent diameter.


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"You will still have FB , you will lose nothing" ~WUAF_Badsight
"I had actually pre ordered CFS3 and I couldnt wait..." ~Bearcat99
"Gladiator and Falco, elegant weapons of a more civilized age" ~ElAurens
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"Damn.....Where you did read about Spitfire made from a wood?
Close this book forever and don't open anymore!" ~Oleg_Maddox http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

cueceleches
08-12-2004, 01:50 AM
Mmmh...I‚¬īm surprised how people are taking down on lomac. i have it, and play since it went out on the shelves. And I must admit that I get really good time with it.
Yes, before 1.02, it was rather buggy, but since the patch came out, many of the biggest bugs are gone, and, at least for me, is quite stable, offline and online.
And we must admit that it is graphically astonishing, even at lower settings.
Specs were never a problem for me, and maybe I‚¬īm one of a few lucky who play it at highest settings with smooth FPS, never experiencing crashes, lockups, etc.
On the other hand, it is true that it lacks of a dynamic campaign, but there are lots of campaigns to download on the net, and at this moment, I play Lomac as much as IL2. I can‚¬īt compare both. They are completely different sims. For now, Lomac is the best we have for modern combat. Falcon 4 is also great, but oudated despite the new patches. Nevertheless, I still love it and fly it as much as I can.

triggerhappyfin
08-12-2004, 03:52 AM
To Stiglr.

I downlowded the TARGETWARE a couple of days ago.

Got it running offline - What a blast with those FMs.
The immersion of simulating flight was great, the torgue of engine in take of ...lol.

I was back in early original IL-2 days..almost unable to take of and certainly not remaining on the runway..lol

I have not beeing able to get mouse vision to work yet and have to make some remapping of the
controls too, to fully find my self confident with the game.

Great simulator with lots of aircraft controls to take care of.

Thanks for giving us information about it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Triggerhappyfin/ace1_copy.bmp
Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommended‚.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

Rab03
08-12-2004, 04:46 AM
Tried:

F/A-18 Korea
CFS2
CFS3
Aces over Europe
B-17 II
MiG-29
Su-27 FLanker
etc.

Only one remains favorite: Il-2, FB, AEP.

See my skins at
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/JohnnyRab-SIG.jpg (http://www.il2skins.com/?action=list&authoridfilter=Rab&ts=1069857387&comefrom=credits)

AlGroover
08-12-2004, 04:53 AM
I've still got CFS2, but only to run Combat Aces WW1 and Sabre vs MiG addons. Still a hoot on LAN.

archermav
08-12-2004, 06:33 AM
Why aren't you playing Rowans BoB. With the latest and greatest patches in my view it;s a must.