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dieg777
08-25-2004, 10:43 AM
I am thinking of using this on line but when practicing I seem to grenade the engine when trying to catch P-51s. I understand that it is to be used sparingly but is it safe to use at 110 % on throttle or have you to throttle back , put it on then push throttle?- All help appreciates

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dieg777
08-25-2004, 10:43 AM
I am thinking of using this on line but when practicing I seem to grenade the engine when trying to catch P-51s. I understand that it is to be used sparingly but is it safe to use at 110 % on throttle or have you to throttle back , put it on then push throttle?- All help appreciates

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OldMan____
08-25-2004, 10:58 AM
back on power.. on MW50.. power up.. same to turn it off

If brute force does not solve your problem... you are not using enough!

tfu_iain1
08-25-2004, 11:11 AM
just to be abundantly clear, you have to engage the mw-50 BEFORE you go over 100% throttle, otherwise the engine will cook very quickly.... in addition dont have it on too long (5/10 mins at time) or the engine will die anyway, even if it doesnt warn of an overheat. follow those rules and you will be happily outclimbing everything in the sky.

dieg777
08-25-2004, 11:29 AM
Thanks chaps-just some more clarification-how far back do I have to typically put throttle before applying-60% ?
How hard can I boost throttle after applying?
Its really annoying trying to catch up and have to gently throttle up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

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Skullin
08-25-2004, 11:52 AM
I've throttled to 0%, pushed the "button", then throttled to 110% all within about 5 seconds and not had any problems.

KGr.HH-Sunburst
08-25-2004, 12:01 PM
ALWAYS turn MW50 when your standing still just starting to takeoff,bc it can be a pain when you need it while flying you have to throttle back to idle

just before you start your engine or when the engine is at 0% press the WEP button
i always do it before takeoff and never ever touch it agian,MW50 is activated only above 100% throttle even when you see the message "MW50 enabled" under 100% its not being used so just leave it on the whole flight and throttle back below 100% from time to time

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VFA-195 Snacky
08-25-2004, 12:08 PM
I turn on WEP immediately after startup on the ground and leave it on the entire flight. Never had a problem.

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carguy_
08-25-2004, 12:15 PM
Using MW50 is problematic.You have to activate it at idle.Hmm but this will make you vulnerable.I enable it below 101% and get nice results.It lasts for about 2 minutes but your plane turns into a rocket.Even Spits can`t catch me for tht time hehe.

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VOL_Hans
08-25-2004, 04:23 PM
MW-50 the "Always Ready" Way:
At Engine Startup-
Throttle to 0%, MW-50 system engaged.
Resume normal engine start procedure.
Keep throttle below 100% power untill you really need it.

MW-50 the "Off in Cruise" Way:
Fly the aircraft as normal, do NOT go past 100% at ANY time! Once contacts are spotted, be SURE you are below 100% power [99% is enough] and activate MW-50.

MW-50 allows you to boost the engine to higher horsepower and ATA [Manifold Pressure] at the cost of drastically shortening engine life. A DB-605/AS engine ran for only 12 hours flight time after MW-50 had been used!

Try to stay below 99% unless you really need it, once you go into the 101%+ range, MW-50 kicks in as long as the system was armed.

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dieg777
08-26-2004, 06:09 AM
Sorted http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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F19_Ob
08-26-2004, 06:42 AM
How MW-50 boost was used in real life.
It was enabled 1-2 minutes only, to save the engine.

Interview with Franz Stigler:
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/articles/pilots/stigler/stigler.htm

Quite a bit down on first page Franz Stigler describes how it was used and how long.
If u read on u will also see how propsettings was used. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[This message was edited by ob_swe on Thu August 26 2004 at 02:02 PM.]

tfu_iain1
08-30-2004, 05:41 AM
in real life it had to be charged for x amount of time at lower revs to be used, in il2 you just have to engage the mw50 at below 100%- i tend to go for 95-99%- you can hit the boost instantly, and use it selectively without damage to the engine once you get used to it. doesnt kill the engine, long as you never turn mw50 on above 100%

OldMan____
08-30-2004, 05:46 AM
In fact I usually get damaged when I turn it OFF over 100%. It happens usually afetr I flew much time in a FW190 where I do not need to concern with this.

If brute force does not solve your problem... you are not using enough!

BfHeFwMe
08-30-2004, 07:03 AM
In a K, it causes early overheats with it turned on and being under 99% throttle, even in a cruise mode. Don't turn it on early in that model, wait till you really need it.

Rab03
08-31-2004, 02:37 AM
Funny, I applyed MW-50 above 100% throttle. The moment I do it (under 5k altitude) engine goes almost dead.

Wasn't the 5000m zero altitude for applying MW-50?

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Jasko76
08-31-2004, 02:42 AM
Damn, guys, why make it so complicated? I fly, I see an enemy, I quickly trottle down to 0%, apply MW-50 and slam the throttle wide open. Whole procedure takes about a second and I loose about 2 km/h... what's the big deal?

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F19_Ob
08-31-2004, 02:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jasko76:
Damn, guys, why make it so complicated? I fly, I see an enemy, I quickly trottle down to 0%, apply MW-50 and slam the throttle wide open. Whole procedure takes about a second and I loose about 2 km/h... what's the big deal?

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Your method works fine, u can even do it slowly, no need to hurry even if turning with an enemy.

Jasko76
08-31-2004, 03:18 AM
He he... I'm kind of jumpy by nature - no wonder my joysticks last a few weeks each, especially if they're made by Logitech http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S¥ kan det g¥...

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Kwiatos
08-31-2004, 03:28 AM
As i read in RL Mw50 could be used only until alt 5 km. In FB Mw50 could be used at all heigh. Gm-1 was for higher alt above 5 or 6 km which we have in FB.

JG53Frankyboy
08-31-2004, 04:57 AM
in real MW50 was only useful till the rated altitude of the engine. so a Bf109G6/ASM could use it till ~8000m ! above the rated alts there was not enough oxygen to get any further profit form the MW50 injection


in game :
enable MW50 as best before engine start.
MW50 is not used till you go at 101% throttle. no use of it at 100%.
in a Bf109 you have MW50 fluid for 26minutes in use (above 100%) total. in a Fw190D/Ta152 for 35 minutes.
there is no difference in consumption if you are in 101% ore 110%.

after the MW50 is empty you HAVE to enable it ! otherwise your engine will be damaged rather fast http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif . the Bf109s are given you a hint , the manifold pressure is falling down from 1.8ATA to 1.42 ata when MW50 is empty !