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Gbucket
07-30-2004, 09:31 AM
This week's development update has been added to the site.


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<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/Ki-43-Ia_05_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/Ki-61_Kai_Ko_03_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>

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This week we're showing the Aichi D3A1 "Val" Cockpit, Kawasaki Ki-43 Ia, and more!

The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)

[This message was edited by UbiRazz on Fri July 30 2004 at 08:57 AM.]

Gbucket
07-30-2004, 09:31 AM
This week's development update has been added to the site.


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<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/D3A1-cockp1_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/Ki-43-Ia_05_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/Ki-61_Kai_Ko_03_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>

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This week we're showing the Aichi D3A1 "Val" Cockpit, Kawasaki Ki-43 Ia, and more!

The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)

[This message was edited by UbiRazz on Fri July 30 2004 at 08:57 AM.]

Kasdeya
07-30-2004, 09:52 AM
This game is gonna ROCK!!!!

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LeadSpitter_
07-30-2004, 09:52 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/newk431.jpg

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LeadSpitter_
07-30-2004, 09:52 AM
gr doublepost

WOLFMondo
07-30-2004, 09:58 AM
Nice...is it me or are the default textures and country markings much better than in fb/AEP?

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Capt.LoneRanger
07-30-2004, 10:05 AM
Great pics! The game will ROCK! And with the upcoming merge of FB and PF, I'll probably spend more time finding the right plane than fyling, LOL!

Oh, @ Wolf:

The markings may not be the ones you have in mind with FB. They could also be integrated with the specific skin! Of course, these would look WAY better, since the structure can be implemented. The normal signs are just textures above the normal textures, thus simply showing the marking, not what is below, nor any structures or weathering. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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(GreyFox5)
07-30-2004, 10:21 AM
Ki-61 Kai ko reminds me of a P-39 and the Ki43 looks like a Ta-152. Hmmmm influence from outside sources? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

GerritJ9
07-30-2004, 10:23 AM
Great shots, only one small comment.......... the Ki43 was made by Nakajima, and is not a Kawasaki product.

NegativeGee
07-30-2004, 10:42 AM
Very nice shots- good to see some views on the Japanese development http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Aero_Shodanjo
07-30-2004, 11:02 AM
I think it will be interesting when PF is out to compare it with CFS2 plane by plane. I do think however, with so many planes to choose - with FB/PF compatibility to each other - CFS2 wont stand a chance.

I can see it crying out loud now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Captain_Avatar
07-30-2004, 11:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Skull_Fox5:
Ki-61 Kai ko reminds me of a P-39 and the Ki43 looks like a Ta-152. Hmmmm influence from outside sources? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I remember correctly the VAL and the KATE were originally designs the Japanese bought from the Germans.

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-30-2004, 11:23 AM
Thx 'Razz. I find as this title gets nearer, I'm getting more excited. Both to get PF and to get the follow-up expansion patch for AEP with the bombers in it.

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Gibbage1
07-30-2004, 11:46 AM
You did a great job on the Ki-43 skin LS. Thanks for helping me out. Dont it feel great to be in a dev update? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I have 1 more job for you in PF. Please check your PM's.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/newk431.jpg

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/LSIG1.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Red_Russian13
07-30-2004, 11:59 AM
Outstanding...I can't wait.

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Flying_Merkava
07-30-2004, 12:41 PM
Kawanishi made the infamous Goerge but I don't know what planes Kawasaki made (don't see'em listed on . Yes you're right it's a Nakajima Ki-61 "tony." I think the tony was influenced by the Italian fighters (mc 202) cause it looks like it, and the bf's cause it was made for power and speed not menuverability...as far as they say.

P.S I jsut visited http://www.acepilots.com/planes/specs.html to make sure and searched for the word "Kawasaki" I found it under the Engine column of the Ki 61 tony, the engine is a Kawasaki. So technically a small mistook by ubi or whoever.

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DuxCorvan
07-30-2004, 12:54 PM
Oscar and Tony. I was missing these guys since AOTP.

And yes, Oscar is Nakajima, not Kawanishi. Ooops!

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p1ngu666
07-30-2004, 01:00 PM
licence bulit merc engine from the 10whine wasnt it?

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RedToo
07-30-2004, 01:17 PM
Different pics to the ones posted for the french site:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=427105675

Have they always been different? - I'll have to go check.

RedToo
07-30-2004, 01:47 PM
Yes they are, pics I never knew about!

GerritJ9
07-30-2004, 01:54 PM
Er........ it's Nakajima Ki43 Hayabusa (Allied code name Oscar), and Kawasaki Ki61 Hien (Allied code name Tony). Kawasaki also built the Ki45 Toryu and the Ki100, among others. Big K's shipbuilding division built the carrier Zuikaku, the battlecruiser Haruna (later upgraded to fast battleship) and other warships for the Imperial Japanese Navy.

WTE_Tigger
07-30-2004, 03:50 PM
S!

Great to see the Japanese Aircraft comming along, I predict the Ki-43 will cause somwhat of a stir, it has a very very tight turning circle, possibly one of the smallest of WWII though If i recall it didnt have cannon, only MG.

And the Ki-61! Ahhh my darling, she's looking good. I can't wait to see her in action.

Great work S!

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WUAF_Badsight
07-30-2004, 04:10 PM
the Ki-27 was the tightest turning monoplane of WW2

the Ki-43 had only nose mounted MG's

but the most produced version had the 2 being incendary firing 12.7 MG's

this was a 1943 model Ki-43

earlier had 7.7mm MG's http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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Flying_Merkava
07-30-2004, 04:53 PM
The Hellcat and Corsairs literally wieghed about 3 times more than these planes.

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This interview was on Nat'l Public Radio (npr) in mid January.
A female was interviewing Marine Corps General Reinwald
about a Boy Scout visit to his base.
She was told the Boy Scouts were to be taught about guns.
She asked, "But you are equiping them to be violent killers." The General replied,
"Well you're equiped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?"
The radio went silent and the interview ended. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

Owl_NZ
07-30-2004, 05:09 PM
At last some news of the Ki-61. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Just an observation (not a whine) :- Is it me or are almost all the Japanese planes shown so far first specification a/c? The D3A1 wasn't the most-built "Val", the D3A2 was. The Ki-43-Ia was the first variant of it's type, but there is no news of any higher variants (which might not really help the "Oscar" given it was so under-armed.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif). ....and can someone please tell me - is that H8K the H8K1 or the much improved H8K2? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif

By comparison, the US a/c all seem to be mid-late war versions. It might just be what we've been allowed to see so far, but I would hope that there are some later-war Japanese planes coming to accompany the Ki-84 like the P1Y (1,098 examples built), Ki-67 (698 built), B7A (100+ examples built), Ki-100 (around 275 converted Ki-61's), J2M (476 built), D4Y (2,038 built), C6N (463 built) etc.

and the Ki-46-III http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Please. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif These aren't "exotics" like the J7W or J8M or Kikkas which really shouldn't be there (if it's to be "accurate"), these are late-war planes that ACTUALLY flew in operational service in numbers. I hope they are in, otherwise this might end up being rather one-sided.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Artic_Wulf
07-30-2004, 06:24 PM
The Cockpit of the Val looks good, It will be fun diving on Battle Ship row at Pearl Harbour in one of these, will be interesting to see what OLeg and co have done to beat the AA Flak lag, in PF in comparison to FB.
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WTE_Ibis
07-30-2004, 08:33 PM
Protecting the ships from Kamakazi could be difficult.Also respawning on a crowdered carrier deck may prove challenging,no cross country takeoffs there. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/1072.gif

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Snow_Wolf_
07-30-2004, 09:17 PM
i thought the Ki-43 was made by Nakajima not Kawasaki ?

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PlaneEater
07-30-2004, 10:28 PM
Don't worry, guys... there's early, mid, and late war planes for everybody. No '46, almost-were, or prototypes that I know of, but definitely the vast majority of the ones that were there.

heywooood
07-30-2004, 11:04 PM
love the updates - thanks to all of the people behind this great product.



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Gbucket
08-02-2004, 02:39 AM
Egg. On. Face.

Sorry, the Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscar) is built by Nakajima not Kawasaki... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Heinz_Knokke
08-02-2004, 11:36 AM
Oooopsss...

There is a big mistake with the butterfly flaps of the Nakajima Ki-43 I:
Theses type of flaps mounted on the Ki-43 and Ki-44 type of airplanes where not functionning like shown on the pictures; theses flaps extended out of the wing to the rear just like some kind of fowler flaps on modern airliners. The flaps where sliding rearward, extending past the trailing edge of the wing.
The flaps were used in combat to shorten the turning radius of the airplane. The control for the flaps was by the way of a thumb switch located on the control column.

One easy way to understand the functionning of theses flaps is to have a look at the japanese book about the Ki-27, Ki-43 and Ki-44 in the "Maru Mechanics" series.

Heinz_Knokke
08-03-2004, 01:42 PM
There is also several photographs of the Ki-43 I formerly owned by the Alpine Fighter collection showing the flaps in the extended position in the book Aero Details 29 (P.24, 30, 33)

This book is easy to fing in any library selling books related to aviation.

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08-03-2004, 04:55 PM
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LeadSpitter_
08-05-2004, 01:52 PM
Heinz_Knokke can you scan them?

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JG53Frankyboy
08-05-2004, 05:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
the Ki-27 was the tightest turning monoplane of WW2

the Ki-43 had only nose mounted MG's

but the most produced version had the 2 being incendary firing 12.7 MG's


this was a 1943 model Ki-43

earlier had 7.7mm MG's http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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Ki 43-Ib
1x 7,7mm , 1x 12,7mm

Ki43-Ic
2x 12,7mm

still underarmed , but 1942 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG53Frankyboy
08-05-2004, 06:01 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Heinz_Knokke:
Oooopsss...

There is a big mistake with the butterfly flaps of the Nakajima Ki-43 I:
Theses type of flaps mounted on the Ki-43 and Ki-44 type of airplanes where not functionning like shown on the pictures; theses flaps extended out of the wing to the rear just like some kind of fowler flaps on modern airliners. The flaps where sliding rearward, extending past the trailing edge of the wing.
[QUOTE]

thats the way it looks like for me on this picture ?!

http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/Ki-43-Ia_02.jpg