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BuzZz_WG
08-01-2004, 05:37 PM
Imagine this:
I'm in a Russion plane and a axis plane is below me. We have engaged earlier and I'm on top now, so have the advantage right? The other plane is on my 8-9 o clock about 500 meters below me. We are both low on speed. What to do? I probably have more energy, he has the better angle.

I regularly catch myself making a horizontal circle to get on his six. But by making a horizontal turn, I'm not gaining any energy, while the other guy can gain energy while I'm turning, so this isn't wise is it? What should I do?

BREAK! BREAK!
Nevermind...

BuzZz_WG
08-01-2004, 05:37 PM
Imagine this:
I'm in a Russion plane and a axis plane is below me. We have engaged earlier and I'm on top now, so have the advantage right? The other plane is on my 8-9 o clock about 500 meters below me. We are both low on speed. What to do? I probably have more energy, he has the better angle.

I regularly catch myself making a horizontal circle to get on his six. But by making a horizontal turn, I'm not gaining any energy, while the other guy can gain energy while I'm turning, so this isn't wise is it? What should I do?

BREAK! BREAK!
Nevermind...

ColoradoBBQ
08-01-2004, 05:44 PM
If you have more energy, you can retain it by doing a slow roll onto his six.

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p1ngu666
08-01-2004, 05:45 PM
roll over and attack, or push the nose down

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BuzZz_WG
08-01-2004, 05:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
roll over and attack, or push the nose down

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But he's only about 500 meters lower and when I roll over to attack I will go under him. Or should I roll go under him and see where it ends?

It might give him a snapshot as well

p1ngu666
08-01-2004, 05:54 PM
roll over at 0 throttle, or if u scared of overshoot, u could make a S shaped decent
watch out tho, 109s can slow down very well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

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ColoradoBBQ
08-01-2004, 06:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzZz_WG:

But he's only about 500 meters lower and when I roll over to attack I will go under him. Or should I roll go under him and see where it ends?

It might give him a snapshot as well<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

IF you roll over, you can keep him in view and avoid the snapshot. If he does try a snapshot, he will waste his energy and you will be able to use his disadvantage and shoot him down.

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Cajun76
08-01-2004, 06:13 PM
If your performance is about equal, or you have a better climbing plane, you might try this if you don't like the slow roll. Bigger risk, but much better position if it works.

Turn towards him at about a 45 degree angle to your previous heading and climb slightly. If he tries to come up, he'll have to pitch up more sharply and roll towards you as you pass over him. If he commits to this, steepen your climb and turn the other way as his nose comes for you, about 90 degrees. This should bleed him of the last of his energy and you can dictate the fight from there. Remember, he's not reading the same ACM manual as you, and this move requires near constant observation of his position and speed. Expect to have him get a few shots off. Tighten or relax your turn a bit, pull up more if you can, things like that. If you misjudge his energy state, dive and regroup, you should still have an energy advantage, he'll just be much closer for a few, long seconds. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Remember, everyhing depends on his response. You may end up doing a spiral climb instead. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Good luck and

Good hunting,
Cajun76

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