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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 07:02 AM
Check this out:

<center>http://www.luft46.com/mess/3bm109tl.jpg </center>
Any opinions???
This is the link from where I get it: http://www.luft46.com/mess/mess.html
For sure if the wor would last for 1 more year, and the germans would have enough resources, they would it won it!
They never stop to amaze me!

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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 07:02 AM
Check this out:

<center>http://www.luft46.com/mess/3bm109tl.jpg </center>
Any opinions???
This is the link from where I get it: http://www.luft46.com/mess/mess.html
For sure if the wor would last for 1 more year, and the germans would have enough resources, they would it won it!
They never stop to amaze me!

"The show must go on..."

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 07:30 AM
ya but they also say it never got past the concept stage ..



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"The Messerschmitt 109 Turbo-Lader Strahltriebwerk ( turbocharger jet engine) was proposed on January 22, 1943 at an RLM conference as a back-up for the Me 262, of which only three prototypes had been completed at the time. In order to cut down on design and production time, various components from existing aircraft was to be used. The fuselage from the Me 155B high-altitude fighter was to be used (with a new nose and tail section), the wing was from the Me 409 project and the undercarriage came from the Me 309. The armament was to be two MG 151/20 20mm cannon (120 rounds each) and two MK 103 30mm cannon, all in the nose. A later proposal included two MK 108 30mm cannon could be installed in the wing roots. The performance was estimated to be better than the Me 262 due to the Me 109 TL's narrower fuselage. Following intensive study, by March 1943 it was decided that so many modifications to the various components would be needed that no time would be gained over the Me 262 development, thus the project was abandoned."

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 07:39 AM
It looks like one of the many prototypes fore the me-262 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 08:14 AM
Von_Zero wrote:

- For sure if the wor would last for 1 more year, and
- the germans would have enough resources, they would
- it won it!

Oh my gawd! You're right! If the Germans could have won the war, they would have won the war! Amazing! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 08:17 AM
look alot like ME262 to me

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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 08:21 AM
Yeap, but looks better from one side.

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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 10:03 AM
Nahh, 262 has different fron gear, and a much different wing, among other differences

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 10:18 AM
imho this wouldn't be a vey succesful design due to the lack of the swept wing. But it does look kinda nice.

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 10:43 AM
Not really surprising, since its probably the base concept the 262 developed from.

The best one I ever saw was a FW with a Jet in the nose, the exhaust was outlletted right in front of the canopy and down and to the sides as well. Don't think I really would have enjoyed that as a pilot.

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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 10:45 AM
The P-80 was a straight wing design and it outperformed the 262 in virutally all fields. Sweep wings are only helpfull in the transonic speed region which neither the 262 , P-80 or F9F pather operated for any meaninfull duration in.

TiGeR----- wrote:
- imho this wouldn't be a vey succesful design due to
- the lack of the swept wing. But it does look kinda
- nice.
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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 11:12 AM
basically cragger is totally correct