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BobTuck
02-11-2004, 02:47 PM
Yes, it's true - a Spit Vb with a Db605A

Take a look here:
http://pub157.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm59.showMessage?topicID=7 9.topic

and here:

http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/spitdb605.html

Regards,

BobTuck.

BobTuck
02-11-2004, 02:47 PM
Yes, it's true - a Spit Vb with a Db605A

Take a look here:
http://pub157.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm59.showMessage?topicID=7 9.topic

and here:

http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/spitdb605.html

Regards,

BobTuck.

woofiedog
02-11-2004, 03:11 PM
Thank's for the story.

Steaky_361st
02-11-2004, 08:50 PM
Wonder how that engine would work in a spitty...

hotspace
02-11-2004, 08:57 PM
I was thinking the same also http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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JG53Frankyboy
02-11-2004, 11:42 PM
its just fair http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

after the war spain equipted its licence build Bf109 (HA-1.112 M1L) with RollsRoyce Merlins http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

we all know these plans from the motionpicture "Battle of Britain" (that Plummer,Cain,Shaw and co thing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

faustnik
02-12-2004, 12:04 AM
That's just wrong. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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Rajvosa
02-12-2004, 01:11 AM
That is just weird! Ugly!

http://stu.wccnet.org/~ecrnovrs/inp150/finalp/sarajevo1/images/sarajevo.jpg

lbhskier37
02-12-2004, 01:36 AM
personally I think the 109 with the merlin is way uglier. At least the spitfire still has clean lines unlike those nasty looking 109 merlin monstrosities.

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Platypus_1.JaVA
02-12-2004, 03:16 AM
It was an expiriment. The DB6XX engine badly overheated.

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2 For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.

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Kampfmeister
02-12-2004, 05:02 AM
It just doesn't look right does it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif Any information on it's performance, besides the overheating problems?

Rajvosa
02-12-2004, 05:05 AM
Top speed was limited to 490 km/h because of oil overheating problems. It was never flown above 3000 m either, for the same reason.

http://stu.wccnet.org/~ecrnovrs/inp150/finalp/sarajevo1/images/sarajevo.jpg

Zyzbot
02-12-2004, 06:29 AM
http://www.yellowairplane.com/yellow_airplane_store/airplane_models_Messerschmitt_ME-109.html" (http://www.yellowairplane.com/yellow_airplane_store/airplane_models_Messerschmitt_ME-109.html)


Stewart Wilson, in his book 'Spitfire' relates how a captured Spitfire VB (EN830) was delivered to the Daimler Benz flight test department on November 18 1943. It was fitted with a DB605A and VDM propeller from a Bf 109G. Wilson reports that Willy Ellenreider was the first to fly the converted aircraft and had this to say about it: "Well, this Spitfire was a dream, a pilot's aircraft. It was my real baby. I had never before flown an aircraft like this. We were accustomed to the Bf 109's ill manners; bad visibility before take-off because the nose pointed skywards, the frightening take-off with the common tendency to swing, the unwieldy handling during the final approach and the bumpy landings...."

Stalker58
02-12-2004, 09:58 AM
Me109 were't made for taking off/landing in mind, they were made for A2A kills and got plenty off them.
Me109 is like a sportcar, awkward for parking but good for dream ride.....

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!

Abbuzze
02-12-2004, 11:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stalker58:
Me109 were't made for taking off/landing in mind, they were made for A2A kills and got plenty off them.
Me109 is like a sportcar, awkward for parking but good for dream ride.....

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOOL, great!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The best answer to the landing and starting troubles in 109 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Xnomad
02-12-2004, 11:52 AM
Having grown up abroad I think I missed all that Spitfire propaganda you get when living in Britain as I've never thought the Spitfire looked good, well not the earlier versions anyway.

I must say the Spitfire looks much better with a Daimler, as someone else said a 109 with a Merlin is ugly! A Spit with a DB looks good, just get rid of the elliptical wings lol.

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p1ngu666
02-12-2004, 01:02 PM
i think its uglier http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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Zyzbot
02-12-2004, 03:19 PM
Here is another source for information about this captured Spitfire:

http://unrealaircraft.com/content.php?page=hy_spitfire