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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 03:45 AM
on holiday?

just wondering. hope nothing sordid is afoot.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 03:45 AM
on holiday?

just wondering. hope nothing sordid is afoot.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 07:29 AM
Been out most of the day. Earlier this morning the server was down. Then a bit later it was up again and the stats had been reset. I got on the server and the script stopped working and we were stuck on the same map. Then the server started acting up, everyones ping was jumping into the red every few seconds. I got off and the forums were all down and have been ever since.

JerseyD
10-29-2003, 07:44 AM
give it a day or so guys I'm sure Sammie is having to rework things to get it to run with the new dedicated server patch or something thats all.

btw Im looking at the server right now in ASE and its currently got 13 people in it.

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Sammie22
10-29-2003, 08:47 AM
Gents, 2 of my servers were hacked yesterday, including the web server (which houses the forums and stats). It was quite a shock, but the good news is I caught him in the act and got some usefull info on the guy (but he's from China). The bad news was the web server was deemed useless...

I am in the process of upgrading the security on all the servers, and should have it worked out soon. But for the next few days it will be hectic (for me).

Sammie

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 09:04 AM
Don't those Chinese have anything better to do?/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 09:55 AM
Like send ppl to space, fry wontons or something?

Seroisly i would contact the Chinese Embasy here & press charges. I'm not an expert on Chinese law but i belive that hacking is against the law there as well.
I hate hackers as much as i hate Nazi's. The only good hacker is one with a bullet in his forehead.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 10:40 AM
Copperhead310th wrote:
- I hate hackers as much as i hate Nazi's. The only
- good hacker is one with a bullet in his forehead.


"Never hate your enemies - it affects your judgement"

I'm not a nazi /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif nor a hacker - sometimes I can't even access my own hotmail /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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fluke39
10-29-2003, 10:50 AM
Copperhead310th wrote:
- I hate hackers as much as i hate Nazi's. The only
- good hacker is one with a bullet in his forehead.
-

Hmm i think you might get more than these two responses from that statement,

while i share your dislike of nazis (although i would have trouble condoning shooting them) - many hackers are just kids -

i tend to have mixed views on hacking - if it is for a purpose - say an attack on a company known to have shady ethics then i don't mind so much.(if it's a high security system then i even admire their skills)- but it does enanger me when people just f*ck around with low/no security systems (such as greatergreens server or il2 centre- theres no point in it and it must be kids who are thinking they've really achieved something by hacking some small website.

so yes most hackers don't so much need shooting as a damn good hiding !!

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 01:53 PM
i never said you were mons /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 02:24 PM
- i tend to have mixed views on hacking - if it is for
- a purpose - say an attack on a company known to have
- shady ethics then i don't mind so much.(if it's a
- high security system then i even admire their
- skills)- but it does enanger me when people just
- f*ck around with low/no security systems (such as
- greatergreens server or il2 centre- theres no point
- in it and it must be kids who are thinking they've
- really achieved something by hacking some small
- website.

I dislike hackers with a passion although my impression on their ages would range into the late 20's. So, from my own point of view I wouldn't label them as kids.

Any hacking of any kind whether it be small time web servers to big corporate companies is nothing more than attempted burglary or vandalism. You wouldn't allow someone to enter your home and have a look round just as much as you would allow them to steal your property or spray paint your walls.

Just my 2 cents

BBloke

Sammie22
10-30-2003, 01:50 AM
The reason I mentioned he was from China was simply to infer that it would be very difficult to prosecute this individual. No matter what age, country, etc, it's just a bad thing to do. It has cost me many hours, and affected a service I run for free to help this community. The laws should be much more strict for hackers, and large minimum fines should be enforced for it. As it stands right now, unless there is monetary damage of some significance, it's a pointless, and expensive, process to seek justice (I have busted 2 people before, so I know). Bottom line is there is no way to stop it, but there should be a better way to deter it. I had security on the servers already, but there is always a loophole, somewhere. Now I have to tighten it even more, which leads to more issues from a hosting perspective.

XyZspineZyX
10-30-2003, 02:12 AM
Sammie it really pains me to see what you (and others like you) are going through with these script kiddies (a true Hacker would never stoop to such pointless vandalism). I can only shake my head in disgust and say "that's the world we live in", and thank you for creating such a fantastic service. I for one am very grateful to you and all the people who have contributed to the greatergreen.

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XyZspineZyX
10-30-2003, 03:07 AM
Ban Chinese squadron and they'll go crazy find the cracker and revenge. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
10-30-2003, 04:47 PM
Just want to express my gratitude to your hard work, I,m very sorry that the server was hacked. Hmm was actually planning to join in tonite.....sh.t! Well the least I can do is visit mr paypal..
Salute Sammie
nightnight

XyZspineZyX
10-30-2003, 05:03 PM
My firewall intercepts crap like that all day. I even go through the time and trouble it takes to report that type of activity to their ISP's. I've had several hits out of Hong Kong and alot of other coutries also. The response I recieve the most from their ISP's is that the attackers ip address is easily changed and that makes it hard to enforce any disiplinary actions against them. I personally think their explanation dosen't hold water. Looks like they would have all the info they need to track those b*stards down.

Anyway, I am sorry to hear that your server was infiltrated and I do, as I believe all do, appreciate your contribution to the community. GreaterGreen is always busy and that says it all. I S! you.

XyZspineZyX
10-30-2003, 05:37 PM
please, don't confuse between haker and craker;

hakers are those poeples trying, for example, to make a dedicated server, working only in certains situation, to work with new functions etc.... mmm see my regards ... :-)

When cracker use the work of haker to do bad thinks like in this situation.

Hacker are good poeples with good knownledges in computers (but they are now hacker for cars for example) and they help us in many situations; Better security, new idea, optimization...
when Crakers have not the real knowledge off wath they do, so often kids, but sometimes they are also Hakers...

Sammie22
10-30-2003, 06:28 PM
Yes, true. Way back when (in computer time), hacker simply meant a programmer. But in today's terms, I think hacker means cracker, to most people.

And the FB server was not hacked/cracked, The web and stats server was hit, along with another server. So playing FB on the server is still going strong. Checking your stats or using the forum is not possible for another day or so...