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michapma
08-19-2004, 06:06 PM
I just posted this and the forum gave an error, the topic "doesn't exist." And even though I ctrl+c'ed it before leaving, now it won't post... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

So the (most) current offline campaign I'm on right now has me transferred to fend off the Fascist Hun from Moskva and freshly trained in my new ride: the MiG-3ud! In my first mission I was assigned to navigate over 100km (despite the average route being set to 25km) and bomb a German depot in Vyazma with my two wingmen. We cruised at about 1500m, and a bit under full throttle and rpm in order to maintain a heat reserve. As we approach I give the hand signals to my wingmen to spread out and adopt a line astern formation. Just as the target area starts coming into sight in the distance, I notice four 109s in a shallow dive from 1 o'clock high, and they wheel around in an oblique vertical turn to pursue. I have the throttle as high as it goes and full rpm, straining every muscle to get to the target first. I do, see industry, head for oil containers but then spot the depot, and release bombs to knock out some cars. I'm not sure that 200kg trashing some cars is going to halt the German advance, but I had done my duty and hug the terrain in a gentle curve designed to keep up my speed. I race north without waiting on my wingmen, past the angry enemy airfield to the north of Vyazma, and fly under a bridge just for style. When I near the front lines I risk a gentle climb and turn east and then south. Dots and tracers: my wingmen are both engaged. I slowly climb above the clouds wait until they "remember" my briefing instructions not to engage enemy aircraft. (I use radio commands when I feel the pilots can read hand signals and when I think the command could correspond to pre-flight instructions.) They manage to ditch their opponents and we go on home.

Why didn't I engage? We were outnumbered, and I had inexperienced wingmen, whereas the enemy AI had demonstrated competence. Plus, I was in a new aircraft designed as a high-altitude interceptor, and I'm not too comfortable mixing it up with 109Es at low level in the MiG-3.

It just so happens that one of my mates in the 69.GIAP is quite handy with the MiG, even down low--he uses aggresive turning in an aircraft meant for speed. So I hopped into the QMB to try it out. I went up against an Average AI 109E-7 at 1500m on Moscow1. I tried out the turning first, and we were soon in a gradually descending nose-to-tail chase. The turn performance was about equal, him slooowly winning out, although I was using flaps, which probably didn't help my turn rate. As he won angle on me I decided it was time to reverse, and after a couple of maneuvers I stalled out into the forest 100m below. I found out I had had rockets strapped on me for that mission.

I set up another session without rockets, this time with a Veteran wingman against two Veteran AI 109E-7s at 1000m on the Smolensk map. Quite a different result! My wingman bought the farm early, leaving me to duke it out with two veterans... I didn't manage to shoot them down, but that's not the whole story! The MiG-3 is poorly armed, doesn't take much damage and seems sluggish, but she has excellent speed for a late-1941 fighter, responds nicely to the controls at a variety of speeds, handles very high angles of attack with grace and has an roll rate most any fighter would envy.

I had so much fun in that second QMB mission (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/flightsims/tracks/MiG-3_sotheMiGsuckshuh2.04.zip) (68kB) that I decided to make it available for others to enjoy. It's recorded in TRK format, so you'll need AEP 2.04 to view it.

Go MiG!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/69giap/fileadmin/Image_Archive/badges/69giap_badge_chap.jpg (http://giap.webhop.info)

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michapma
08-19-2004, 06:06 PM
I just posted this and the forum gave an error, the topic "doesn't exist." And even though I ctrl+c'ed it before leaving, now it won't post... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

So the (most) current offline campaign I'm on right now has me transferred to fend off the Fascist Hun from Moskva and freshly trained in my new ride: the MiG-3ud! In my first mission I was assigned to navigate over 100km (despite the average route being set to 25km) and bomb a German depot in Vyazma with my two wingmen. We cruised at about 1500m, and a bit under full throttle and rpm in order to maintain a heat reserve. As we approach I give the hand signals to my wingmen to spread out and adopt a line astern formation. Just as the target area starts coming into sight in the distance, I notice four 109s in a shallow dive from 1 o'clock high, and they wheel around in an oblique vertical turn to pursue. I have the throttle as high as it goes and full rpm, straining every muscle to get to the target first. I do, see industry, head for oil containers but then spot the depot, and release bombs to knock out some cars. I'm not sure that 200kg trashing some cars is going to halt the German advance, but I had done my duty and hug the terrain in a gentle curve designed to keep up my speed. I race north without waiting on my wingmen, past the angry enemy airfield to the north of Vyazma, and fly under a bridge just for style. When I near the front lines I risk a gentle climb and turn east and then south. Dots and tracers: my wingmen are both engaged. I slowly climb above the clouds wait until they "remember" my briefing instructions not to engage enemy aircraft. (I use radio commands when I feel the pilots can read hand signals and when I think the command could correspond to pre-flight instructions.) They manage to ditch their opponents and we go on home.

Why didn't I engage? We were outnumbered, and I had inexperienced wingmen, whereas the enemy AI had demonstrated competence. Plus, I was in a new aircraft designed as a high-altitude interceptor, and I'm not too comfortable mixing it up with 109Es at low level in the MiG-3.

It just so happens that one of my mates in the 69.GIAP is quite handy with the MiG, even down low--he uses aggresive turning in an aircraft meant for speed. So I hopped into the QMB to try it out. I went up against an Average AI 109E-7 at 1500m on Moscow1. I tried out the turning first, and we were soon in a gradually descending nose-to-tail chase. The turn performance was about equal, him slooowly winning out, although I was using flaps, which probably didn't help my turn rate. As he won angle on me I decided it was time to reverse, and after a couple of maneuvers I stalled out into the forest 100m below. I found out I had had rockets strapped on me for that mission.

I set up another session without rockets, this time with a Veteran wingman against two Veteran AI 109E-7s at 1000m on the Smolensk map. Quite a different result! My wingman bought the farm early, leaving me to duke it out with two veterans... I didn't manage to shoot them down, but that's not the whole story! The MiG-3 is poorly armed, doesn't take much damage and seems sluggish, but she has excellent speed for a late-1941 fighter, responds nicely to the controls at a variety of speeds, handles very high angles of attack with grace and has an roll rate most any fighter would envy.

I had so much fun in that second QMB mission (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/flightsims/tracks/MiG-3_sotheMiGsuckshuh2.04.zip) (68kB) that I decided to make it available for others to enjoy. It's recorded in TRK format, so you'll need AEP 2.04 to view it.

Go MiG!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/69giap/fileadmin/Image_Archive/badges/69giap_badge_chap.jpg (http://giap.webhop.info)

The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/) | Forgotten Skies (http://www.forgottenskies.com/)
But we are all that way: when we know a thing we have only scorn for other people who don't happen to know it. - Mark Twain, Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc