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CD_Turbo
07-18-2004, 04:01 AM
Hello!

I have been wondering for a long time about the abscence of a fuel **** to kill the fuel flowing to the engine incase of a fire.
In some planes fuel mixture is modelled and magnetos but an important feature like a fuel valve isnt there.

Yes its possible to snuff out a fire by diving but fuel is still reaching the engine and it will ignite again!

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CD_Turbo

CD_Turbo
07-18-2004, 04:01 AM
Hello!

I have been wondering for a long time about the abscence of a fuel **** to kill the fuel flowing to the engine incase of a fire.
In some planes fuel mixture is modelled and magnetos but an important feature like a fuel valve isnt there.

Yes its possible to snuff out a fire by diving but fuel is still reaching the engine and it will ignite again!

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CD_Turbo
07-18-2004, 04:03 AM
FUEL C O C K

p1ngu666
07-18-2004, 06:55 AM
yep always come back, even without fuel http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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VMF513_Sandman
07-18-2004, 07:37 PM
would be nice to have the ability to shut the fuel off. no fuel, no fire; but then no engine since it wont run on air http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif
another feature that would be nice in all planes...the ability to switch fuel tanks. either with the mouse or with mappable keys on keyboard. btw, isnt the magneto's already on both mag's from the get-go..i see no diff in speed manually arming the mag's in any plane.

BennyMoore
07-18-2004, 09:00 PM
I'd rather have no engine and no fire than a fire and an engine.

WWMaxGunz
07-18-2004, 09:50 PM
Words come to mind. "the moon on a stick" and "you can't have everything"
And the well known "within the limits of the machine" to which I add, "and time"

Howabout, I'd rather see what's there working good on all planes instead.


Neal

Rab03
07-19-2004, 01:46 AM
I've been always wondering about engine fire, when there's no fuel left (and the fire would, by some time, definitely eat up all the fuel fumes).

Willey
07-19-2004, 05:44 AM
It doesn't even help to put mixture to 0% and shut down the vurning engine to stop it burning. Especially for the 262 that's a bad problem. Normally you could just kill it and restart it if you reacted quickly enough. Galland had this problem in his first 262 takeoff because he moved the throttle levers too quickly. He immediately shut the fuel valves, brought the jet to stop and took off with his 2nd try after restarting the engine. But that's a bit different to fire by bullets. But even with a damaged engine we should be able to extinguish it by shutting it down and reaching a high speed once. Particularly this is even modelled already. Above ~500km/h IAS engines stop burning, but the fire pops up again later, especially at lower speeds followed by a sudden explosion. Even if it's off and mix 0%.

RCAF_Hawk2
07-19-2004, 06:50 AM
Yall are forgeting sevral things , 1. engine oil, any leaking oil will burn once exposed to air and flames or very hot parts (ie exsuast manifold) . 2. antifreeze some of the fomulations were highly flamable. 3. belts hoses and any other things that are mounted around or on the engine that are not made of steel. So cutting the fuel off will make you feel better but wont neccarly put the fire out. Racing cars we run into simular problems the only thing cutting fuel really does is keeping the fire from moving back as fast.well just food for thought

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