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Jumoschwanz
07-24-2004, 09:37 AM
I was on the tail of a clip-wing Spit while flying an A6M5 Zero. ON him for a long time getting little hits here and there. The Spit did not want to be shot down, and it was all I could do to stay on it's tail with the slow roll rate of the Zero. Now tracers are coming past my craft, it was a fairly busy server and naturally I thought one of the Spit's buddies was trying to save him. I kept on the Spit,s tail though. Tracers flew around my cockpit four times by now and I figured the way we were spinning and flipping through the sky it would be a real tough act for any pursuer to follow. I figured wrong, now my Zero is in pieces falling to earth, the Spit free to go home and land his smoking swiss cheese.
Then the surprise, it was on of my team, a blue in a FW190 that shot me down. I was pissed. I typed in the chat;"That is why you don't do that, you cover me instead". I thought it was a newb needing some advice. I was greeted with the 190 pilot suggesting to send it to him in a report so he could wipe his a$$ with it. Then me inevitably losing my cool again typing;" does that make you an a$$wipe?". I might never lose the habit of going down to their level. I will keep trying though.

This exchange, I felt, threw an immediate damper on the mood of the server. Another example of bad use of the chat feature.

I have shot down a friendly on a full real server twice this year so far. Not too bad considering I am online at least five days a week. I cannot remeber shooting one down while shooting past a friendly that is on the tail of a hostile.
A number of times that same evening I broke off the tail of a hostile that others were moving on, and checked the rear for other hostiles. I would not be surprised if I have hit a friendly while shooting at a hostile in the past but it is not something I would want to do, let alone pursue it with the zest this FW190 pilot did. I have been "talked to" about shooting over someones shoulder I remember, but from my point of view it did not look that way.

This kind of thing is inevitable while flying online. Immaturity and ego are something most all of us deal with during any activity. I guess that when someone going through a ego problem steps on your toes the trick is not to end up letting it be your problem also. Once again I should have kept my virtual mouth shut and just kept flying.
Well tommorow is another day, and another chance for me to learn new tricks.

Jumoschwanz

Jumoschwanz
07-24-2004, 09:37 AM
I was on the tail of a clip-wing Spit while flying an A6M5 Zero. ON him for a long time getting little hits here and there. The Spit did not want to be shot down, and it was all I could do to stay on it's tail with the slow roll rate of the Zero. Now tracers are coming past my craft, it was a fairly busy server and naturally I thought one of the Spit's buddies was trying to save him. I kept on the Spit,s tail though. Tracers flew around my cockpit four times by now and I figured the way we were spinning and flipping through the sky it would be a real tough act for any pursuer to follow. I figured wrong, now my Zero is in pieces falling to earth, the Spit free to go home and land his smoking swiss cheese.
Then the surprise, it was on of my team, a blue in a FW190 that shot me down. I was pissed. I typed in the chat;"That is why you don't do that, you cover me instead". I thought it was a newb needing some advice. I was greeted with the 190 pilot suggesting to send it to him in a report so he could wipe his a$$ with it. Then me inevitably losing my cool again typing;" does that make you an a$$wipe?". I might never lose the habit of going down to their level. I will keep trying though.

This exchange, I felt, threw an immediate damper on the mood of the server. Another example of bad use of the chat feature.

I have shot down a friendly on a full real server twice this year so far. Not too bad considering I am online at least five days a week. I cannot remeber shooting one down while shooting past a friendly that is on the tail of a hostile.
A number of times that same evening I broke off the tail of a hostile that others were moving on, and checked the rear for other hostiles. I would not be surprised if I have hit a friendly while shooting at a hostile in the past but it is not something I would want to do, let alone pursue it with the zest this FW190 pilot did. I have been "talked to" about shooting over someones shoulder I remember, but from my point of view it did not look that way.

This kind of thing is inevitable while flying online. Immaturity and ego are something most all of us deal with during any activity. I guess that when someone going through a ego problem steps on your toes the trick is not to end up letting it be your problem also. Once again I should have kept my virtual mouth shut and just kept flying.
Well tommorow is another day, and another chance for me to learn new tricks.

Jumoschwanz

Yellonet
07-24-2004, 09:50 AM
Good story http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Some people are just @ssholes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
Too bad we have to deal with them http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


- Yellonet

JG50_Sepp
07-24-2004, 09:50 AM
Happens to the best of us Jumo lol, dont sweat it mate! S~

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diomedes33
07-24-2004, 10:38 AM
I hate that sinking feeling you get, when you're trying your best to clear someone's tail and they pull an evasive maneuver that puts them right in the line of your fire.

One time I was flying a 190 and dove in on a spit chasing a 109. I dove below the spit and was comming back up and started shooting. At the same time the 109 initiated a loop. Blew the wing off the spit and the tail off the 109.

The 109 pilot was cool about it and said it happens. That was one of the more mature and understanding reactions I've seen online.

Salute to the people like this that get that people just screw up sometimes. Just showing that even though there are some real imature jerks online, there are some that aren't.

(this wasn't directed at anyone, just an observation)

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Kandiru
07-24-2004, 11:19 AM
When i do that kind of cxxp i never forget to write SORRY in any post.

I still remember with embarassment when on UKDedicated i mauled an already wounded IL-2 on its way home, after i sat down to play tired after a long shift at work. I apologized and continued chatting encouragement to the wounded pilot hoping hell make it. He crashed on runway to my great embarrassment.

What's worse is that i even forgot to send flowers to the widows of the crew. I guess i'll have to wait until the end of the virtual war before i can do that, and God knows when that will happen given the current respawn rateshttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

triggerhappyfin
07-24-2004, 11:33 AM
Online dogfighting reminds me of kids soccer game - no tactics, everyone on the ball.

Lot of times chasing on somebodys 6 I get rammed from above of some guys with no SA at all... they just jump on my chase with no idea of where I am http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif...After all it was my fire that made them avare of the fight http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif.

A proper punishment for kill stealing and over-the-shoulder-shooting would be this--->

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Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
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And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on