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crazyivan1970
02-22-2004, 06:57 PM
Dream of the lefty came thru (ya hear me Lix http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) I finally gave in and bought X45 on the way home. What can i say, i could care less about stick itself...but throttle part of it is simply AWESOME. Even for lefty like me it`s very comfy and setup is piece of cake, took me like 10 min to transfer all my important keyboard commands to it and dang...it hurts when i came to realization of what i`v been missing all this years. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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crazyivan1970
02-22-2004, 06:57 PM
Dream of the lefty came thru (ya hear me Lix http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) I finally gave in and bought X45 on the way home. What can i say, i could care less about stick itself...but throttle part of it is simply AWESOME. Even for lefty like me it`s very comfy and setup is piece of cake, took me like 10 min to transfer all my important keyboard commands to it and dang...it hurts when i came to realization of what i`v been missing all this years. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

bird_brain
02-22-2004, 07:03 PM
HOTAS rules...nuf said!

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noshens
02-22-2004, 07:08 PM
Is it possible to buy the throttle alone?

BS87
02-22-2004, 07:12 PM
No, the throttle plugs into the stick. I just put the X45 stick behind the comp and use the MS stick

crazyivan1970
02-22-2004, 07:20 PM
that`s what i did 87 heeh. BTW stick itself is very uncomfortable...too long and ... i like twist rudder better hehe

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

tenmmike
02-22-2004, 08:14 PM
well ya can use the buttons on the stick as well like i use the covered button to eject

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Urist
02-22-2004, 08:21 PM
I have a Thrustmaster Top Gun Afterburner (damn cheesy name) and although the stick is pretty comfy its feels... cheap...

I've been thinking of ressurecting my old CH Flightstick pro just cuz it has the same number of buttons PLUS another axis to use for trim http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And the damn hat actually works properly on it.

I tried using the twist stick rudder control but found that moved it all over the place while flying without realizing it. Causing much confusion as to why the plane was handling so damn weird. I like the one on the throttle better as its less likely to get moved around when I don't mean to. On the TM Top Gun you can choose if you want the twist handle or rocker on the throttle for rudder.

Manupulating it while trying to use the other buttons can be a bit difficult though, My hand is too big for it as well. Time to get some pedals and a new CH stick I guess.

I've never seen the X45, otherwise I might buy it.

Bearcat99
02-22-2004, 09:15 PM
That is an awesome combo but like Mike said.. there is no reason why you cant use the buttons on the X45 stick...dont just leave it behind your computer!! The stiff spring makes it a FANTASTIC button bay. B16Enk has a nice X45/MSFFB combo profile.. I have one too. Hit the link to the squad site in my sig and DL it. The only thing is I use CH pedals.... so there is no rudder..you might want to modify the profile for the MSFFB by putting rudder on the twist stick. I currently have rudder trim on the twist stick so if you have pedals you can DL the profile as is. Just make sure you read the readme that is with it and assign all your commands in FB to the appropriate keys or else it wont work.

I have flaps on the rudder rocker of the X45... map,radiator,zoom,normal & out views, pan (I use the orange button as a mouse pan) the black button is either CTRL or SHIFT depending on the mode..I am going to also make it ALT so I can really totally program the stick by using comb keys like Shift+F1, CTRL+F1 & Alt+F1......elevator and aileron trim on the rotaries, engine start,bailout,autopilot,drop tanks,all lights and landing gear..including tailwheel lock are on the X45 stick...and that is only in one mode. Feel free to modify the profile or you can use Enks....which is different from mine but nice. You can also combine the X45 with ANY FFB stick in FB....just assign the keys accordingly....since FB supports multiple sticks flawlessly. If you have an X45 and any other stick combo and you are NOT using the stick you need to wise up and get busy. If you dont want to use my or Enk's profile create your own....but USE THE WHOLE STICK!! Evern if space is an issue.... you dont need a lot of space...just a place to put the stick where you can hit the buttons.... I have my X45 throttle on my left with the stick at the throttles one oclock....the MSFFB stick is on my right. Did I mention that I have prop pitch on the throttle slider of my MSFFB? All weps are on buttons 1-4 of the MSFFB... all my hat switches.. (dont forget..if you iclude the X45 I have a total of 4 8way or 4way hats plus the orange button on the throttle which can be a 4way hat,8way hat or mouse pan) are set to 4way hats...at the 12,3,6 & 9 oclock positions....thats 4 different, easily accessible functions for each hat. I decided to go with the 4way instead of 8way hats because I figured who needs to be hitting the wrong button when trying to fly,,,so the 4 way hats just made more sense.... since I had so many. The 4 way hat on the MSFFB is set to (starting from the 12oclock position) F1,F3,Num5,F2... On the X45stick the left hat is Cockpit,Landing,Tip smoke and Nav lights..the right hat is gear auto,manual lower,tailwheel lock,manual raise (for the Polys..or when the hyraulics get shot up..the manual rasise lwr that is). The 4way hat on the X45 throttle is padlock enemy air,padlock next,padlock enemy ground,padlock previous.... I keep my bailout button under the flip top switch on the X45 stick so I dont bail out by accident..which I have STILL managed to do on occasion..LOL.... drop tanks are the trigger button on the X45, I dont use the pinkie switch..... and all that is basically in one mode...... the only switch I use in multiple modes is the orange D button...which in mode one is my radiator, in mode 2 it is map, in mode 3 it is quick record... All in all I have just about any function I need for what I fly on those sticks.. Did I mention that my mike control key in Ventrillo is LCTRL... so I access my comms from the stick too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

I am sure that CH makes great products....but for the money you cant beat the X45...ounce for ounce, feature for feature it is the best HOTAS ANYWHERE for the price..bar NONE. I have rather long hands and the size is perfect for me. Another thing I like about the X45 is that the throttle plugs into the stick and the stick has a USB connector..so you only use one USB port on your rig. The programmability that you get from an X45 in conjunction with the stick you already use...especially if you like it and want to keep it but just basically want a HOTAS setup... goes through the roof when you consider the fact that the 13 buttons on the stick (providing the hats are set to 4way..not 8way and the pinkie switch is not used) when multiplied by the 3 modes is 39 options..... 39!!! The reason I leave the pinkie switch unused is because.... you have modes 1,2&3...then you have mode 1+pinkie,2+pinkie & 3+ pinkie... leaving you with 6 modes in all... UN!!!! REAL!!!! More programmability than a keyboard!!!! The stick alone in 6 modes with 4ways gives you 78 inputs.... I only use 3 modes and only one button in all three modes...

Saitek is long overdue for a sale too... look for one soon..around the time the AE comes out or shortly thereafter.... The trottles stiffness can be adjusted from a screw underneath.. I haven had one single issue from my stick and I use it everyday.. I have heard that the support is EXCELLENT though.... I just havent needed it yet. So to sum it up Ivan you madea good choice..... but use that stick man.... remember all you have to do is be able to reach the buttons...it doesnt have to be too comfortable.... just not out of reach.

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Bearcat99
02-22-2004, 09:25 PM
Did I mention I got this GREAT stick on sale for $49 about 2 weeks before FB came out... actually I think it was around the time that FS2004 came out... bottom line great stick...even at full price of $79.99 it is awesome and worth every single penny... My rebate took abpout 2 months to arrive.

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SKY_BOSS
02-22-2004, 10:06 PM
X45 stick and throttle are just the right size for a man with big hands and the price is way more reasonable then Cougar.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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crazyivan1970
02-22-2004, 10:16 PM
Thanks for heads up BC! I will check it out

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