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AngelDiMaria08
04-22-2015, 02:54 PM
Did Ubisoft want to compare the conflict between Assassins with there value of freedom and Templars with their value of order to that between Capitalism (Assassin's freedom) and Communism (Templar's order)

VestigialLlama4
04-22-2015, 03:02 PM
Did Ubisoft want to compare the conflict between Assassins with there value of freedom and Templars with their value of order to that between Capitalism (Assassin's freedom) and Communism (Templar's order)

Templars owners of Abstergo Corporation is Communist?!?

The games aren't really about capitalism versus communism. It's about the fact that in any ideology, there are people who want to share and put ideas into effect (Assassins) and hypocrites who will compromise in favor of stability, cynically using ideas as "a big lie" for what they think are the greater good (Templars). The former group think nobody's perfect and always think about what is thei right thing to do, while Templars are sure and full of themselves. It's something that cuts across politics and class lines.

Gin0r
05-05-2015, 10:55 AM
Nah, Iím with Llama here.

First of all the lore (ACII Glyphs or ACB Rifts, I canít remember) pretty much makes clear that modern Capitalism was "invented" by Templars to give people the illusion of freedom and that the Assassins supported early Communists Ė as an aside: Communism is the final goal of Socialism, there never has been a communist society, Communism is supposed to be achieved by constant socialist revolution (I simplified it a lot here). But thatís not the point, both Capitalism and Communism are economic systems, both could exist in a dictatorship as well as in a democracy (or anarchism) in theory.
I suppose Assassins still support a lot of things that conservatives like to decry as socialism, like welfare, universal health care etc. since in theory having taken care of your basic needs should increase your personal freedom, because you wouldn't have to depend on every crappy job you can get just to get by.

The struggle between freedom and order as illustrated by the Templar/Assassin conflict is more along the lines of Liberalism vs. Conservatism taken to their extremes. It happens more on the freedom <ó> security axis. Would you prepare a (supposedly) benevolent dictatorship to freedom with its associated risks.

Talking in real world political terms, I think the Assassins are close to Anarcho-Communists while the Templars are State-Capitalists.