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Hartford688
04-19-2004, 12:27 PM
Have owned Il-2 then FB for some 3 years now...but never really put in the time and effort to do any good (whupped by pretty much anything, lawndarting etc) always distracted by any new games on the market (plus family, job etc). Really thought I would try and make a go of it (offline to start with) but I reckon I need to start off concentrating on one 'plane. So here is my first post.

Considered:

Yak-3 - becuase it is often recommended on other threads
P-40 - because I like it, was used through most of the war, can use in Med and PF one day

Trouble with P-40 in my mind...not too hot a plane really, even in 1941. For that reason, maybe a dumb choice for a noobie plane to learn on and try to get good at.

Any advice as to whether a goer...or other recomendations? LA-7 seems a cop out.

Hartford688
04-19-2004, 12:27 PM
Have owned Il-2 then FB for some 3 years now...but never really put in the time and effort to do any good (whupped by pretty much anything, lawndarting etc) always distracted by any new games on the market (plus family, job etc). Really thought I would try and make a go of it (offline to start with) but I reckon I need to start off concentrating on one 'plane. So here is my first post.

Considered:

Yak-3 - becuase it is often recommended on other threads
P-40 - because I like it, was used through most of the war, can use in Med and PF one day

Trouble with P-40 in my mind...not too hot a plane really, even in 1941. For that reason, maybe a dumb choice for a noobie plane to learn on and try to get good at.

Any advice as to whether a goer...or other recomendations? LA-7 seems a cop out.

Snow_Wolf_
04-19-2004, 12:35 PM
I would recommend as Yak-1B since it a fast bird and got good handling.

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TgD Thunderbolt56
04-19-2004, 12:50 PM
I would recommend flying what you like and flying in such a way as to tilt the scales in your favor. (i.e. climb high and YOU decide the conditions of engagement).

Evevn a relatively poor performer can be very effective if you develope the discipline to fly them correctly. So, if you like the P-40...fly it. Just fly it smartly. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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BuzzU
04-19-2004, 12:57 PM
Your best bet would be the SpitfireV for now, and then move up to the later versions when we get them shortly. It will teach you to conserve your ammo. I assume you have the expansion pack.

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arcadeace
04-19-2004, 01:16 PM
I'm gonna agree with the SpitfireV. Its not too fast but will manouver with almost everything and is easy to control. Its one of my faves for tight dogfighting.

Hartford688
04-19-2004, 01:44 PM
Thanks all. Will need to look into AEP...my PC is real slow although card is OKish ( PIII 800 :-) and FX5200)...just nervous of pushing it further, as it is OK - bizarrely - just now so long as I do not go near Finland. One day a new PC.

So maybe a Yak 1, Spit VB clipped.

If I did stick with the P-40...any suggestions on how to "fly it correctly" ...T&B or BnZ v Brewster, Bf 109F?

Thanks again

BuzzU
04-19-2004, 01:53 PM
If you don't have AEP. I would take the Yak1B for early servers, and the Yak3 or La7 for late servers. That's if you're set on turn fighting.

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Ki_Rin
04-20-2004, 01:58 PM
try the A6m2...the "zero"....its slow, but so is the spit, and it and outturn almost everything, even the biplanes have trouble with it...and yes, the La7 seems kinda cheap and lowbrow, don't it?

BpGemini
04-20-2004, 02:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hartford688:
Best Noobie plane question #689<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


The best n00bie plane answer depends on how long you want to remain a n00bie.

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If you like the P-40 then fly the P-40. The choice of plane only sets your advatages and disadvatages. The pilot wins the fights.

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Eagle_361st
04-20-2004, 06:46 PM
You could try the BFneb 109K-4, it's a very nice introduction to the game and will keep you from learning bad habits. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Mitlov47
04-21-2004, 12:40 AM
The Spitfire has a fast learning curve. It will teach you how to conserve ammo and avoid getting hit (it's not very durable at all). It's marvelously agile, pretty fast, and doesn't have any nasty handling traits.

However, if you want to be a boom-and-zoom fighter, don't try to learn on a turn-and-burn fighter--learn on an FW190 or P47. And vice versa--if you like turn-and-burn fighting, don't waste your time practicing with a P-47. It won't help you fly a Spitfire or Yak.

Another approach entirely: master the Hawker Hurricane through the best fan-made campaign I've ever seen. Download the Battle over Britain campaign here (very bottom of page):
http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten_Battles/Missions/index-10.html
It sticks with the Hurricane the entire time, and has a nice, slow learning curve (the first few missions are training, then you have some really easy combat missions, and they start getting harder slowly). The MkI Hurricane, like all 1930s fighters, is just plain odd. The later versions are pretty maneuverable, not durable but not absolute firetraps, kinda slow, and mount some heavy armament.

Frankly, if nothing else, the Battle of Britain campaign is just darned FUN, and gives you a long time to master one family of aircraft.

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Hartford688
04-25-2004, 01:39 PM
Thanks all for the feedback... Will give your suggestions a go and see what feels "right". Thanks for the welcome...I normally drive a submarine...these 'planes go so darned fast http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2004, 03:04 PM
If your goal is to learn about how to fly and fight well, I'd try and find a "jack of all trades" plane. Not one that "auto corrects" all your bad habits, or is so optimistically overmodelled that anybody can be a worldbeater in it; take a plane that's a good, yeoman ship: it turns pretty good, can dive and climb fairly well, has few vices, and can take damage and has a good honest guns package. Short answer: find an AVERAGE plane, and learn how to be above average in it.

If you simply take an La7, or a Yak 3 or some other late war monster, you might score better than if you took some other plane, but your (ueber)plane will be doing the work for you, and you won't learn the hard lessons as quickly; plus, you'll be helpless anytime you have to fly less than an ueberplane.

capt_frank
04-25-2004, 04:10 PM
fly whatever "blows your hair back"...and have fun with it! that's what's it all about... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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