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stef51
09-13-2004, 10:51 AM
I realise that many factors are involved but anyway... I caught a Stuka online with my Hurricane Mk IIB and was able to set it on fire. I did not notice that there was another Stuka closing on me from behind. He started firing on me at long range hitting me every few seconds. No big deal I figured so I went full throttle. Altitude was very low, maybe 1500 meters.

After reaching full speed I assumed that climbing at 70% angle would be sufficient to make him stall way before me. So as I stalled, I looked at him and he was still climbing behind me, eventually killing me with his mgs. I really was expecting him to stall much sooner than I at 70% angle.

So, is this another thing about those climbing/diving thread that people are talking about or something else? opinions please...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thank you

Stephen

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stef51
09-13-2004, 10:51 AM
I realise that many factors are involved but anyway... I caught a Stuka online with my Hurricane Mk IIB and was able to set it on fire. I did not notice that there was another Stuka closing on me from behind. He started firing on me at long range hitting me every few seconds. No big deal I figured so I went full throttle. Altitude was very low, maybe 1500 meters.

After reaching full speed I assumed that climbing at 70% angle would be sufficient to make him stall way before me. So as I stalled, I looked at him and he was still climbing behind me, eventually killing me with his mgs. I really was expecting him to stall much sooner than I at 70% angle.

So, is this another thing about those climbing/diving thread that people are talking about or something else? opinions please...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thank you

Stephen

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John_Stag
09-13-2004, 11:09 AM
I'm no expert, but I would never use a steady climb as an evasion tactic; the performance difference would (I think) take too much time to show. The Stuka would have a slower stall speed than a Hurri anyway, and then you offer a steady target...

Dive, loop, zoom, maneouver in the horizontal, but never a steady climb.

But that's just my thoughts.

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horseback
09-13-2004, 12:28 PM
the Stuka was a pretty maneuverable a/c, AFIK, but the Hurri should have had a significant advantage in speed and turn. Climb angle is a whole 'nother issue, though.

Since it is the first week of NFL, I feel obliged to engage in a little Monday morning quarterbacking: you should have run away, using a shallow dive (or climb), jinking around to throw off his aim until you had sufficient seperation to safely turn around and nail his uppity @ss.

cheers

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VW-IceFire
09-13-2004, 12:33 PM
Best in that situation is to start a very shallow dive, goto maximum throttle, close the radiator and build up some speed.

Once you're well away from him you can in theory climb away but the Hurricane, at least in this game, is very slow at climbing.

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stef51
09-13-2004, 01:00 PM
Great infos. Thanks guys. I figured that the stuka would almost stall immediately considering its slow speed et climbing at that much angle....

Stephen

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