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flybyil
03-31-2004, 02:51 AM
I've been playing my IL-2 and IL-2FB for quite a long time now and it looks like the new 'Aces' odd-on is a must for me.

My current graphics card is Tyan Tachyon 9000 (=Radeon 9000) with upadates. Sometimes the playing experience with this card is like a dream come true, sometimes almost unplayable - it depends on which mission you are playing.

I would like to have a combat-proven opinion of with what graphics card to update my PC next. Today's budget is around 150 - 200 euros, is that enough? In other words would the wisest be to continue with the current card or wait for the prices of the today-expensive (400+ euros) to come down.

Any suggestions with which card the IL-2 family runs at it's best?

NB: Anyone interested in buying a Tyan Tachyon craphigs card...

flybyil
03-31-2004, 02:51 AM
I've been playing my IL-2 and IL-2FB for quite a long time now and it looks like the new 'Aces' odd-on is a must for me.

My current graphics card is Tyan Tachyon 9000 (=Radeon 9000) with upadates. Sometimes the playing experience with this card is like a dream come true, sometimes almost unplayable - it depends on which mission you are playing.

I would like to have a combat-proven opinion of with what graphics card to update my PC next. Today's budget is around 150 - 200 euros, is that enough? In other words would the wisest be to continue with the current card or wait for the prices of the today-expensive (400+ euros) to come down.

Any suggestions with which card the IL-2 family runs at it's best?

NB: Anyone interested in buying a Tyan Tachyon craphigs card...

Spinne_3.-JG51
03-31-2004, 03:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by flybyil:
I've been playing my IL-2 and IL-2FB for quite a long time now and it looks like the new 'Aces' odd-on is a must for me.

My current graphics card is Tyan Tachyon 9000 (=Radeon 9000) with upadates. Sometimes the playing experience with this card is like a dream come true, sometimes almost unplayable - it depends on which mission you are playing.

I would like to have a combat-proven opinion of with what graphics card to update my PC next. Today's budget is around 150 - 200 euros, is that enough? In other words would the wisest be to continue with the current card or wait for the prices of the today-expensive (400+ euros) to come down.

Any suggestions with which card the IL-2 family runs at it's best?

NB: Anyone interested in buying a Tyan Tachyon craphigs card...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wouldn't call the 9000 a 'craphigs' card. it is supposed to be an entry level card designed to lure you away from the onboard crappy Intel graphics and introduce you to the world of computer gaming and high performance graphics cards. It seems to have accomplished this task, judging by your post.
As far as your next buy goes, I'd recommend a Radeon 9600XT. If you like watching TV on your PC get the AIW varient. The 9600XT falls into what's known as the upper-middle class. It'll run all games pretty well, but it won't give you blazingly high framerates at high resolution with AA and AF enabled. For that, you need a Radeon 9800 Pro or better yet, the 9800XT. Nvidia makes some good cards as well, but I don't own anything made by them, so I'm not going to recommend them.

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SUPERAEREO
03-31-2004, 03:18 AM
The question would be answered better in the Community Help forum, but the nVidia FX 5900 XT should come into your price range, and I have read that it far outclasses the FX 5700 Pro for almost the same price. I was told that the FX5700 performed extremely well by people who bought it, so I got myself a 5900 XT, but unfortunately I have not tested it yet because I still miss a few parts to build my rig.

Said that: new cards from both Ati and NVidia are coming out right now, so you MIGHT be better off if you wait a few weeks and see if the prices of "older" cards come down.

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
03-31-2004, 03:20 AM
i would go for a 9800pro
its dropping in price as we speak
ive seen them for just €190 on pricewatch

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michapma
03-31-2004, 03:41 AM
Yup, the 9800pro 128MB is in that price range, but maybe not in Europe. I live in Europe too, and want to get one. I have family in the States, so I think I am going to have them order a Sapphire from newegg.com and I'll pick it up in May. I wanted to look into the possibility of ordering it and having it shipped to Europe. The first 15 countries on that list don't ship (or didn't specify but didn't seem to) outside the U.S. However, two of them do.

http://www.pricewatch.com
Click on "Video Cards", then "RADEON 9800 Pro 128MB"

Look for DLJ System and GoGoCity.com on page 2. These are the two that I found, I didn't look at any past GoGoCity.com. These both state that they will ship to international addresses. Of course you are faced with additional shipping and then the import tax of your country. However, the cards are listed at $215 and $218, not much over the lowest price I found of $200.

These prices are for the basic OEM version, you can buy the retail lite or retail versions for a bit more. But basically this awesome card is in your price range. Don't settle for a 9600XT when you can have a 9800Pro for the same price.

I've heard that Sapphire has a bad rep for RMA, but the cards at those two companies are ATI cards.

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WOLFMondo
03-31-2004, 03:45 AM
9600XT's are excellent and worth every penny.

If your lucky you might be able to pick up a 9700 Pro for only slightly more (Scan in the UK sells them for 150 when in stock) which are considerably more powerful than 9600pros/xt's. Not sure why they stopped making them!?!?

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Skii_
03-31-2004, 04:15 AM
My Fx5900 (flashed to 5950) runs perfect mode very nicely,

not bad for 130 delivered http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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michapma
03-31-2004, 05:51 AM
They stopped making the 9700 because they shifted their line from 9500/9700 up to 9600/9800. The more powerful 9800Pro has replaced the 9700Pro. You can still find 9700Pros in some places.

The price difference between, say, the 9600XT (as low as $150) and the 9800Pro (as low as $200) is so small that it seems almost foolish to go with a 9600. But yes, the 9600 line are good cards. And no, I've never owned an ATI card. Yet. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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