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SerpentBlade
06-17-2004, 02:26 PM
Download links:

ftp://g54:jackgh@wm87.3322.org/fbvwps211.zip

ftp://g54:jackgh@wm87.3322.org/fbvwps211.rar


New features added in V2.1

1. Head Shake: Peg-top stablization effect with possible smoothness control is provided.
2. SearchView: Adding acceleration and deceleration featrues.
3. Extended Instruments: Adding Statistics function which can provide acceleration, climb rate, turnning rate in a designated time period.


New features added in V2.0
1. Extended Instruments: Used for testing plane performances, including G overload, fuel load, alt, speed, variometer, shake level and etc.
2. Head shake: Used for simulating the head shake effect when pulling Gs.

The features listed above are only applicable in single-missions.

3. Possible to observe the +-145 degree view
4. Fixed some compatibility issues
5. Addressed some innacurate positioning and serious centering problems in V1.0.
6. Fixed the setting problem for those joysticks(for example X45) with switching buttons.

General information:

"IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles" provides us with three different methods to control view movement. "FB View Plus" is a plug-in aimed at improving both the PanView and SnapView.

1), PanView changes the view by a certain scale each time you push the coolie hat. The default PanView movement scale in FB is 45 degrees when changed horizontally and 30 degrees vertically. That is to say, in order to switch your view from looking straight to cockpit ceiling, you have to push up the hat three times. Furthermore, it does not support any continuous movement, which means If you want to switch your view from lower left (145) to lower right (-145), you have to push the hat for eight times, during which, certain misdoings could happen especially when engaged in a hot and deadly furball. That is one of the reasons why PanView is not so handy in the dogfights.

"FB View Plus" allows you to adjust the moving scale of your view movement freely. Say, you can make that "Level to Ceiling" change within two touches by defining the vertical moving scale to 45 degrees, and furthermore, continuous view movements are now possible. For instance, you can adjust the moving speed to 500 degrees/S, and it only takes 0.54 seconds to switch your view from lower left(145) to lower right(-145) by holding the hat.

2) SnapView is another alternative of controlling view movements that automatically center the view after you release the hat. The FB default setting has a major drawback: We have a dead space. Besides that, one has to keep holding the hat in order to retain his desired view.


With "FB View Plus", the number and position of the fixed views can be personalized according to one's taste. It can prove to be very useful on a stick with dual-coolie-hats (or more) such as a Saitek X-36. In addition to that, you may choose "one button to center view" instead of the original "auto center view" thus one can avoid the holding procedure which could sometimes result in faulty movements. The hotkey map function allows you to get rid of the view positions Pov45, Pov135, Pov225 and Pov315, by doing so, you can solve the problem of a "shaking screen" caused by inaccurate actions of slanted angles.


3) "FB View Plus" offers a brand new alternative of conducting view changes: SearchView. No matter which method you are using, Snap or Pan, you can always activate the SearchView mode by holding the "Search Key" (The default key is Number Pad Enter). In the SearchView mode, while moving the hat, it does a small scale view change which allows you to adjust the view in a certain scope. Of course you can also define the movable area to a rather large extent, and just use the hat as a mouse if you want.

4) "FB View Plus" also uses a button to switch between SnapView and PanView (Default key is F9). As a supplement, it now makes the PanView and SnapView work together possible. This may only benefit those who have multi-hats such as a set of X-36. You may define the main hat on the right as PanView and with one of the left hats with SnapView to do quick time search with certain fixed area such as your six clock high.


Installation:

1. Please remove any previous version of FB View Plus 2.0

2. FB View Plus 2.0 only supports Il2-Sturmovik Forgotten Battles AEP 2.01

3. Before install FB View Plus 2.0, please make sure you have Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installed on your computer. You can download Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 at "http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com" for free.

4. Before install FB View Plus 2.0, please make sure you have Microsoft DirectX 9.0b installed on your computer. You can download DirectX 9.0b at "http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com" for free.

5. Run the "Setup.exe". During the first install, you will be asked to input the right path to your "IL2-Sturmovik Forgotten Battles" directory.

6. In order to make "FB View Plus" work properly, setup will ask you to abolish all the view control settings, you may delete all the key maps manually or you can simply click on the "Clean view control settings in FB" button. "FB View Plus" will automatically clean all the work and meanwhile make a backup file of your previous settings.


Configuration:

1, The upper part of the "FB View Plus" window consists of all the basic configurations and the preview window. The lower part constitutes some specific configurations for PanView, SnapView and SearchView. If you only use PanView mode, you can just ignore all the settings related with SnapView and SearchView.

2, Default Settings: Certain parts of "FB View Plus" have a button named "Default Settings" which changes all the settings back to the original values of the Forgotten Battles.

3, Recommended Settings: Some of the modules also have a button called "Recommended Settings" which allows you to change the settings to the recommended values backed up with a supplementary explanation.

4, Save Changes: The button "Save Changes" locates at the upper left corner of the main operating window, by clicking on it, every change you made will be applied and saved. All the changes you've modified will not take place until you click on the save button.

5, Test: There is the "Test" button on the upper left part and you may test all the configurations after any changes you've made. By observing the preview window, you can make some further modifications to meet your taste.

6, Run IL2 FB: Once you click on the "Run IL2 FB" button, it will launch the IL2 FB. If you want to exterminate or modify the program, please click on the "FB View Plus" icon in the System tray.

Attention:

1, You must clean all the view setting hotkeys before activate "FB View Plus", if not, conflicts will occur.

2, FB View Plus will examine the value of [rts] trackIRUs in conf.ini, if trackIRUse=1, conflicts may occur, FB View Plus will automatically set it to 0.

3, All the hotkeys you define in FB View Plus should not be those are used in FB Forgotten Battles.

FAQ:

1.Q: Can I use two coolie hats together?
A: Yes, you may use two hats to make vector orientation. Say, you hold two hats at the same time(one "up" and the other "left back") and you will get the view of "left back up".

2.Q: Is it possible to define multipal config settings? config for 109 and for 190....because different plane has a different cockpit, it's a little bit annoying to change the value for every time you change the plane.
A: Yes, click on the "Save Settings" -- "Save as", you may provide each plane with a specific config which can be loaded by clicking the "Load Settings".

3.Q: Why the PanView doesn't work?
A1: Your stick may lack a coolie hat. You need at least one hat to use the PanView.
A2: It is possible that you are using a joystick programming application. If you define the hat keys to other buttons, FB View Plus will no longer work properly. You may observe the hat function in Panview settings. If it does not work, please close the application for joystick programming. (It may require a reboot)

SerpentBlade
06-17-2004, 02:26 PM
Download links:

ftp://g54:jackgh@wm87.3322.org/fbvwps211.zip

ftp://g54:jackgh@wm87.3322.org/fbvwps211.rar


New features added in V2.1

1. Head Shake: Peg-top stablization effect with possible smoothness control is provided.
2. SearchView: Adding acceleration and deceleration featrues.
3. Extended Instruments: Adding Statistics function which can provide acceleration, climb rate, turnning rate in a designated time period.


New features added in V2.0
1. Extended Instruments: Used for testing plane performances, including G overload, fuel load, alt, speed, variometer, shake level and etc.
2. Head shake: Used for simulating the head shake effect when pulling Gs.

The features listed above are only applicable in single-missions.

3. Possible to observe the +-145 degree view
4. Fixed some compatibility issues
5. Addressed some innacurate positioning and serious centering problems in V1.0.
6. Fixed the setting problem for those joysticks(for example X45) with switching buttons.

General information:

"IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles" provides us with three different methods to control view movement. "FB View Plus" is a plug-in aimed at improving both the PanView and SnapView.

1), PanView changes the view by a certain scale each time you push the coolie hat. The default PanView movement scale in FB is 45 degrees when changed horizontally and 30 degrees vertically. That is to say, in order to switch your view from looking straight to cockpit ceiling, you have to push up the hat three times. Furthermore, it does not support any continuous movement, which means If you want to switch your view from lower left (145) to lower right (-145), you have to push the hat for eight times, during which, certain misdoings could happen especially when engaged in a hot and deadly furball. That is one of the reasons why PanView is not so handy in the dogfights.

"FB View Plus" allows you to adjust the moving scale of your view movement freely. Say, you can make that "Level to Ceiling" change within two touches by defining the vertical moving scale to 45 degrees, and furthermore, continuous view movements are now possible. For instance, you can adjust the moving speed to 500 degrees/S, and it only takes 0.54 seconds to switch your view from lower left(145) to lower right(-145) by holding the hat.

2) SnapView is another alternative of controlling view movements that automatically center the view after you release the hat. The FB default setting has a major drawback: We have a dead space. Besides that, one has to keep holding the hat in order to retain his desired view.


With "FB View Plus", the number and position of the fixed views can be personalized according to one's taste. It can prove to be very useful on a stick with dual-coolie-hats (or more) such as a Saitek X-36. In addition to that, you may choose "one button to center view" instead of the original "auto center view" thus one can avoid the holding procedure which could sometimes result in faulty movements. The hotkey map function allows you to get rid of the view positions Pov45, Pov135, Pov225 and Pov315, by doing so, you can solve the problem of a "shaking screen" caused by inaccurate actions of slanted angles.


3) "FB View Plus" offers a brand new alternative of conducting view changes: SearchView. No matter which method you are using, Snap or Pan, you can always activate the SearchView mode by holding the "Search Key" (The default key is Number Pad Enter). In the SearchView mode, while moving the hat, it does a small scale view change which allows you to adjust the view in a certain scope. Of course you can also define the movable area to a rather large extent, and just use the hat as a mouse if you want.

4) "FB View Plus" also uses a button to switch between SnapView and PanView (Default key is F9). As a supplement, it now makes the PanView and SnapView work together possible. This may only benefit those who have multi-hats such as a set of X-36. You may define the main hat on the right as PanView and with one of the left hats with SnapView to do quick time search with certain fixed area such as your six clock high.


Installation:

1. Please remove any previous version of FB View Plus 2.0

2. FB View Plus 2.0 only supports Il2-Sturmovik Forgotten Battles AEP 2.01

3. Before install FB View Plus 2.0, please make sure you have Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installed on your computer. You can download Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 at "http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com" for free.

4. Before install FB View Plus 2.0, please make sure you have Microsoft DirectX 9.0b installed on your computer. You can download DirectX 9.0b at "http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com" for free.

5. Run the "Setup.exe". During the first install, you will be asked to input the right path to your "IL2-Sturmovik Forgotten Battles" directory.

6. In order to make "FB View Plus" work properly, setup will ask you to abolish all the view control settings, you may delete all the key maps manually or you can simply click on the "Clean view control settings in FB" button. "FB View Plus" will automatically clean all the work and meanwhile make a backup file of your previous settings.


Configuration:

1, The upper part of the "FB View Plus" window consists of all the basic configurations and the preview window. The lower part constitutes some specific configurations for PanView, SnapView and SearchView. If you only use PanView mode, you can just ignore all the settings related with SnapView and SearchView.

2, Default Settings: Certain parts of "FB View Plus" have a button named "Default Settings" which changes all the settings back to the original values of the Forgotten Battles.

3, Recommended Settings: Some of the modules also have a button called "Recommended Settings" which allows you to change the settings to the recommended values backed up with a supplementary explanation.

4, Save Changes: The button "Save Changes" locates at the upper left corner of the main operating window, by clicking on it, every change you made will be applied and saved. All the changes you've modified will not take place until you click on the save button.

5, Test: There is the "Test" button on the upper left part and you may test all the configurations after any changes you've made. By observing the preview window, you can make some further modifications to meet your taste.

6, Run IL2 FB: Once you click on the "Run IL2 FB" button, it will launch the IL2 FB. If you want to exterminate or modify the program, please click on the "FB View Plus" icon in the System tray.

Attention:

1, You must clean all the view setting hotkeys before activate "FB View Plus", if not, conflicts will occur.

2, FB View Plus will examine the value of [rts] trackIRUs in conf.ini, if trackIRUse=1, conflicts may occur, FB View Plus will automatically set it to 0.

3, All the hotkeys you define in FB View Plus should not be those are used in FB Forgotten Battles.

FAQ:

1.Q: Can I use two coolie hats together?
A: Yes, you may use two hats to make vector orientation. Say, you hold two hats at the same time(one "up" and the other "left back") and you will get the view of "left back up".

2.Q: Is it possible to define multipal config settings? config for 109 and for 190....because different plane has a different cockpit, it's a little bit annoying to change the value for every time you change the plane.
A: Yes, click on the "Save Settings" -- "Save as", you may provide each plane with a specific config which can be loaded by clicking the "Load Settings".

3.Q: Why the PanView doesn't work?
A1: Your stick may lack a coolie hat. You need at least one hat to use the PanView.
A2: It is possible that you are using a joystick programming application. If you define the hat keys to other buttons, FB View Plus will no longer work properly. You may observe the hat function in Panview settings. If it does not work, please close the application for joystick programming. (It may require a reboot)

SerpentBlade
06-17-2004, 02:33 PM
http://jackly.cpgl.net:8080//bbs/attachment.php?attachmentid=4958&stc=1

this is one of its cool featureshttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SerpentBlade
06-17-2004, 02:33 PM
http://jackly.cpgl.net:8080//bbs/attachment.php?attachmentid=4958&stc=1

this is one of its cool featureshttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

EmbarkChief
06-17-2004, 02:44 PM
This could be worth its weight in gold when flying with cockpit on....

EFG_beber
06-17-2004, 03:13 PM
Nice http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ASM 1
06-17-2004, 03:54 PM
looks very nifty http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

must give it a go when I have a minute....

S!

Andrew

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Bakelit
06-17-2004, 04:58 PM
Thanks for letting us know.

I' an NewView user and will try this one.

I find NewView or another view utility indispensable without something like TrackIR.

Popey109
06-18-2004, 12:44 AM
need too bump this back to the top! I like this program! it works very well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

woofiedog
06-18-2004, 02:59 AM
Wow! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
This looks like some super add-on programing. I'll be giving it a spin this week-end.
Thank's for the hard work. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif
One quesion though.... Can the instruments read in US measurements or just Metric?

zetareticulan
06-18-2004, 09:53 AM
Very nice indeed. Works a treat

CzechTexan
06-18-2004, 10:44 AM
I use the old version and prefer it over the other view programs out there. I'll have to get this new version. thanks.



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xsman
06-19-2004, 02:56 PM
It's greate! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif bump to the top!

Locust_
06-30-2004, 06:34 PM
This is an awsome program so far only 1 hitch

In my lil world left is left when i press pov left it looks UP, press right it looks down, etc etc......

I belive this can be tweeked & made to work just fine tho......

PS if you dont have this & you fly FR without tir2 u dam well should get this NOW !!!

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[This message was edited by Locust_ on Wed June 30 2004 at 06:11 PM.]

[This message was edited by Locust_ on Wed June 30 2004 at 06:12 PM.]

easymo
06-30-2004, 08:01 PM
Can you get the extended 5 and 7 o'clock views. In snap mode with this?

T_O_A_D
07-01-2004, 10:19 AM
So can this be used with Track IR I am only interested in your Gauges and info on bottom.

This would be alot more handier than the old Linda Blair view thing. I'm a bit suprized we aren't hearing this being called a cheat? Expeccialy in the Full difficulty crowd. I would like to use it to learn Forign copits better. If I had that and the pit turned on maybe I could coralate it all a bit better.


Originally posted by SerpentBlade:
http://jackly.cpgl.net:8080//bbs/attachment.php?attachmentid=4958&stc=1

this is one of its cool featureshttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
Commanding Officer of the 131st_VFW (http://www.geocities.com/vfw_131st/)
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panthercules
07-01-2004, 10:27 AM
I'm not sure I understand exactly how this works or what it does, but let me ask a simple question to help figure out if it would help to go try this:

I use my trackball to control my view in/from the cockpit, not the view-hat - in pan view, this gives me continuous, fine movement control to look anywhere I want in any direction/increment I want. Would a view addon like this do anything useful for me in this case that using the trackball does not? Or would it just make the view-hat thing on the joystick more useful? (thus perhaps freeing up my trackball hand to do other things)

pcisbest
07-01-2004, 12:21 PM
Yeah......nothing like a nice, big, fat, high resolution, printout of all your aircraft stats, some of them things you couldnt even derive from WWII instruments, does it come with a b*tchin Betty too? (sexy female voice) "Warning: Superman Views Disabled. Warning" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

JG54_XPC
07-01-2004, 04:15 PM
Plz watch readme first,10th line:

"The features listed above are only applicable in single-missions."

This feature only useful in FM testing.

JG54_XPC
07-01-2004, 04:34 PM
This view addon only sopport keyboard and joystick hat.

But use trackball to control view is a good solution.I use the mouse to control view before this addon developed,if I have 3 or more hands,I'll use mouse forever http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BTW,I will relase version 2.3 soon.Improved controller compatibility.

EURO_Snoopy
12-15-2004, 05:56 AM
Both download links are broken, does anyone have the file? If so please upload to Airwarfare Submissions (http://www.airwarfare.com/panes/submissions_pane.htm) or post a link here

Thanks!

MGBMike
12-15-2004, 06:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EURO_Snoopy:
Both download links are broken, does anyone have the file? If so please upload to http://www.airwarfare.com/panes/submissions_pane.htm or post a link here

Thanks! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

File in zip format has been uploaded to airwarfare.com