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Altair1789
03-12-2015, 01:33 AM
I know I'm obsessed with this but hear me out

Assassin's Creed Unity started off with something that I'm sure got many of us really hyped. This Helix Mission Selection Menu

http://i.imgur.com/5p3pRaR.jpg

Like many, I assumed this would be relevant with the story, and show up again somewhere throughout the campaign. Sadly, it didn't. I'm making this thread to see what people think about this. One of the highlights of this Helix Menu was that it introduced 3 completely new assassins and settings.

http://i.imgur.com/nMlKALD.png

"The Bladed Cross"- I'm assuming it's maybe Medieval Spain
"Hell in Hibernia"- Referencing the Irish Potato Famine, this take's place between 1845 and 1852, who knows, we may hear more about this guy in AC Victory
"Jazz Age Junkies"- Will take place during the Jazz Age, presumably in a city like Chicago or New York City.

I think this Menu could make a very nice DLC for Victory or Unity (I doubt this idea never crossed their minds, if it's going to happen it won't be because of me). It would be more realistic to see a DLC with only the bottom 3 assassins, but if they make it about the entire menu, there are the 3 new assassins, and more popular characters like Haytham (this'll get quirky's attention), Shao Jun, Ezio, Alta´r, Edward, and Connor. Another sequence with Ezio in Florence will appeal to a large group of AC fans, a sequence on Connor, while named "Washington and the Wolf" could be the sendoff to the 4 18th century american assassins that were introduced in the past 3 years (Connor, Shay, Aveline, Eseosa). It could tie in with Washington somehow. I'd say doing stuff with a Jazz Age DLC could be really smart, the Jazz Age is pretty modern for an AC game, but that won't matter since it's only a DLC and not a main game. There can be inconsistencies, like in AC3's MD missions where Abstergo guards rarely shot their semi- automatic pistols.

What I want to know is what do you want to become of this Helix Menu, and what are your thoughts on it? Here are the poll options (Note- when I say "almost all characters, I mean not Borgia. A mission and freeroaming with him would be strange:


I don't want it to return at all
No opinion
A Unity DLC with the 3 new assassins- A sequence of replayable missions and a small city (not 1:1 scale, or not the entire city) for freeroaming whenever we want to
A Unity/ Victory DLC with almost all characters- A short mission or two on almost all characters, maybe unlockable outfits for Arno to wear of each character, done in the same style as "The Tragedy of Jacques de Molay"
A Victory DLC of one sequence and small city for almost all characters- I'm saying for Victory because Dead Kings was already a pretty big DLC, and this would also be a huge DLC, so it most likely won't happen in Unity unless it's much smaller
AC Chronicles game for the bottom 3 assassins- A 2.5D sidescroller, like AC Chronicles: China

I know some of these are asking for A LOT, but this is mostly just my hopes for the menu. If it's the Victory DLC, it could be released in parts, like the Tyranny of King Washington DLC. Maybe 10 USD for the first row (not including the Borgia one) and 15 USD for each row of 3. What do you guys think?

JustPlainQuirky
03-12-2015, 01:36 AM
I don't think we'll be seeing anymore DLC after chronicles. Ubisoft is having a hard enough time selling their 30 dollar copies of Unity and are putting most of their efforts on making Victory not suck like Unity most likely.

But if they did do this DLC, I'd finally forgive them for this easter egg.

Its such a huge middle finger IMO.


like Haytham (this'll get quirky's attention)

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wvstolzing
03-12-2015, 01:43 AM
The character Gouki/A k u m a in Street Fighter started off as a troll attempt by the developers; today it's one of the most popular characters of the series.

Check out the wikipedia pages for A k u m a; his origin is pretty funny actually.


ps. Why the hell are they censoring 'A***a'?

Namikaze_17
03-12-2015, 02:51 AM
"Hell in Hibernia"- Referencing the Irish Potato Famine, this take's place between 1845 and 1852, who knows, we may hear more about this guy in AC Victory.

Though Shay should be long gone by then, I'd like to think this event has something to do with him and the precursor box.

Maybe it shows the assumed Assassin getting the box and bringing it back to the Assassins who end up getting the box anyway sometime after Shay.

Just a thought as all.

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To OP, A Victory DLC/De Molay style would best fit these guys in my opinion.


I know Ubi just didn't insert these random guys and settings for nothing, there's obviously more that meets the eye.

Alphacos007
03-12-2015, 01:51 PM
I loved DeMolay's mission. I'd buy Unity again if they ever released this DLC. But I know it won't happen, so...

JustPlainQuirky
03-12-2015, 03:38 PM
I'd buy Unity again if they ever released this DLC.

again?

as in a needless second copy or you returned it?

Democrito_71
03-12-2015, 06:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nMlKALD.png

"The Bladed Cross"- I'm assuming it's maybe Medieval Spain
"Hell in Hibernia"- Referencing the Irish Potato Famine, this take's place between 1845 and 1852, who knows, we may hear more about this guy in AC Victory
"Jazz Age Junkies"- Will take place during the Jazz Age, presumably in a city like Chicago or New York City.

This is just my humble, baseless speculations with no facts to prove me right but anyway; :cool:

I think these settings might be hints for potential, future settings we fans might appreciate and Ubisoft just wanted to hear what we think of these settings before they decides to work on the three settings. So, thats why they decided to tease us with this menu just to hear our opinions about these settings.

Why else would Ubisoft put three, completely new Assassins and settings in Unitys Helix Menu along with previous protagonists/Antagonists just to hype us for nothing?:confused::confused:

LoyalACFan
03-12-2015, 08:41 PM
I honestly don't think there's any significance to it at all. Haven't you noticed that they've been introducing TONS of ancillary, dead-end characters via companion media recently? All those Japanese dudes from the card game, the modern characters in Initiates, and, most notably, Eseosa, who I REALLY thought was going to be the star of "AC: Comet" (ah, fun times). I doubt they're ever going to follow up on any of them, but it makes the brand seem more diverse and sweeping when in reality, they've been stuck in a rut for several years now. And in the case of Initiates, they're just shoving in a bunch of LGBT and minority characters so they can say "look how diverse and inclusive our brand is" without actually having to put in any effort :rolleyes:

Altair1789
03-12-2015, 08:45 PM
I honestly don't think there's any significance to it at all. Haven't you noticed that they've been introducing TONS of ancillary, dead-end characters via companion media recently? All those Japanese dudes from the card game, the modern characters in Initiates, and, most notably, Eseosa, who I REALLY thought was going to be the star of "AC: Comet" (ah, fun times). I doubt they're ever going to follow up on any of them, but it makes the brand seem more diverse and sweeping when in reality, they've been stuck in a rut for several years now. And in the case of Initiates, they're just shoving in a bunch of LGBT and minority characters so they can say "look how diverse and inclusive our brand is" without actually having to put in any effort :rolleyes:

This is true, I myself don't expect anything at all from this after hearing what Darby said about how they're just "thrown out ideas". What I want to know is why they even made this Helix Menu with 3 new characters who most likely will never appear again. It's just cruel

LoyalACFan
03-12-2015, 08:54 PM
This is true, I myself don't expect anything at all from this after hearing what Darby said about how they're just "thrown out ideas". What I want to know is why they even made this Helix Menu with 3 new characters who most likely will never appear again. It's just cruel

It kinda is, and I can't help but feel like the "leaked" image we saw of it wasn't a "leak" at all, but rather a ploy to get disillusioned fans on board with the promise of fan service. Either way, it feels pretty dishonest.

Off-topic, but GOD, the spam is worse than I've ever seen it here.

ze_topazio
03-12-2015, 09:12 PM
I think the Bladed Cross one is ancient Rome.

anyway...


not happening.

Democrito_71
03-13-2015, 04:07 PM
I honestly don't think there's any significance to it at all. Haven't you noticed that they've been introducing TONS of ancillary, dead-end characters via companion media recently? All those Japanese dudes from the card game, the modern characters in Initiates, and, most notably, Eseosa, who I REALLY thought was going to be the star of "AC: Comet" (ah, fun times). I doubt they're ever going to follow up on any of them, but it makes the brand seem more diverse and sweeping when in reality, they've been stuck in a rut for several years now. And in the case of Initiates, they're just shoving in a bunch of LGBT and minority characters so they can say "look how diverse and inclusive our brand is" without actually having to put in any effort :rolleyes:

Yes I've noticed all about all these dead end characters though whats intriguing with the Helix menu is, they only included Shao Jun who were with Old Ezio in the Embers short film. Ubisof didn't include the Japanese characters, the companion app characters, the modern day characters and Eseosa either. Why include Shao Jun and three completely new Assassins in three different time periods? We all know Shao Jun is the protagonist in AC: Chronicles China and Jacque De Molay, Rodrigo Borgia, Haytham, Altair, Ezio, Connor, Aveline, Edward and including Shao Jun have all been included in the main story lines and in the spin off games(Aveline & Shao Jun)

So thats why in my humble opinion, I think Ubisoft included these three completely new settings and Assassins just to hear our opinions of what we think of these settings.

An AC in 1920's Chicago could work if they remove the current sword, spear and heavy weapon combat gameplay and add hidden blade, stiletto knives and fire axe combat instead, add gunplay like watch dogs but much harder plus integrate a much deeper stealth system into the game so you can kill the targets only without the need to kill hundreds of guards before the Assassinations, like in the Hitman franchise.


This is true, I myself don't expect anything at all from this after hearing what Darby said about how they're just "thrown out ideas". What I want to know is why they even made this Helix Menu with 3 new characters who most likely will never appear again. It's just cruel

If they just tossed out three completely new Assassins and settings for nothing, then Ubisoft have taken the price for being the best trolling company of all time :p Just kidding, honestly!

As I said above and previously, I truly think this just a way to hear our opinions about these settings without to reveal they are working on one of these three settings before they start working on one of the settings though, It would have been better if they made a poll about 10 new settings(including the three, new settings in the Helix menu) like they did before AC3 was revealed and in that way to hear our opinions about these three intriguing settings. Deciding to include these three new Assassins in the Helix menu along with previous characters in the main & spin off games were just clumsy and if Ubisoft never will work on any of the three settings at all, then it's just cruel to include them the Helix menu and give us false hope for an Assassins Creed during the 1920's Chicago, 18th or 19th Century Ireland and medieval Spain or Ancient Rome as ze_topazio mentioned. It's hard to tell which setting The Bladed cross stands for imo.


I think the Bladed Cross one is ancient Rome.
anyway...
not happening.

Ubisoft did include Ancient Rome during the Rise of Cesar's Empire in a poll for a few years ago so that setting might happen in the future so don't lose your hope for this setting yet :cool:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/378271-Survey-on-future-Assassin-s-Creed-locations-POLL-Forums

prince162010
03-13-2015, 08:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nMlKALD.png

"The Bladed Cross"- I'm assuming it's maybe Medieval Spain .

Do you really think it's Medieval Spain ?

here's the full image ..
https://scontent-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10389289_1562513040683390_825593438456618886_n.jpg ?oh=200ceb2afba0d38e2e4b1877a70927a0&oe=557ADD99

Democrito_71
03-13-2015, 08:49 PM
Do you really think it's Medieval Spain ?

here's the full image ..
https://scontent-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10389289_1562513040683390_825593438456618886_n.jpg ?oh=200ceb2afba0d38e2e4b1877a70927a0&oe=557ADD99

The outfit do look slightly Persian or Indian somehow:confused: It do remind me of the Turkish Assassin outfit from Revelations a little bit. although the trees in the original pic from the Helix menu, are Italian cypresses. And the title of "The Bladed Cross" could be about religious symbols?? I found this site that explains more about "The Bladed Cross" part which might be interesting for you guys

http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/14/heres-whats-up-with-assassins-creed-unitys-helix-menu/2/

Hans684
03-13-2015, 08:55 PM
Yes I'd love to play it but having it as a DLC? No, it's not that much better. People without the DLC won't get to play it then, not really costumer friendly, is it?

Megas_Doux
03-13-2015, 09:01 PM
Do you really think it's Medieval Spain ?

here's the full image ..
https://scontent-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10389289_1562513040683390_825593438456618886_n.jpg ?oh=200ceb2afba0d38e2e4b1877a70927a0&oe=557ADD99

Source??????????????????????

marvelfannumber
03-13-2015, 09:09 PM
The outfit do look slightly Persian or Indian somehow:confused:

It look more Roman to me honestly. I think the very Roman chestplate, fur cape and golden eagle give it away. It could be something else but I am pretty sure it is roman.

As for what "The Bladed Cross" refers to, I am not sure. Maybe something about Constantine the Great perhaps if it is indeed Roman? That's the only thing I can think of.

Edit: I also noticed he has two eagle heads on his belt which further supports my belief that it is Rome at some point during or after it's division.

Megas_Doux
03-13-2015, 09:22 PM
It look more Roman to me honestly. I think the very Roman chestplate, fur cape and golden eagle give it away. It could be something else but I am pretty sure it is roman.

As for what "The Bladed Cross" refers to, I am not sure. Maybe something about Constantine the Great perhaps if it is indeed Roman? That's the only thing I can think of.

Edit: I also noticed he has two eagle heads on his belt which further supports my belief that it is Rome at some point during or after it's division.

It looks Roman, but it has some middle eastern elements. Look at his skirt and swords, for example.

Democrito_71
03-13-2015, 09:42 PM
It looks Roman, but it has some middle eastern elements. Look at his skirt and swords, for example.

Perhaps this is an Iranian Assassin during the Sassanid Empire which were at war against the Roman Empire somewhere around 200AD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_history_of_the_Roman_military#Struggle_wi th_the_Sassanid_Empire_.28230.E2.80.93363_AD.29

prince162010
03-13-2015, 10:02 PM
Source??????????????????????

From here >> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1407485446186151.1073741827.140747579285378 3&type=3

Namikaze_17
03-13-2015, 10:05 PM
Do we have an image of the "Hell in Hibernia" guy?


EDIT: https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/11036346_1562513080683386_6815764689399699540_n.jp g?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=2dec737d629a358c6917e5db34d55dec&oe=55BBABCB&__gda__=1433706484_c37190cd6e2dd89ecdecd51f4994c62 8


Yesssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!

prince162010
03-13-2015, 10:08 PM
Here's the other two full images :

Jazz Age Junkies

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11043066_1562513087350052_4963617013238679022_n.jp g?oh=bd4894385a0b26cdba1ae5a9c2247ba1&oe=55B525A9&__gda__=1437890338_0186cf35cebf3c9ae524e025d5d22ea d

Hell In Hibernia
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11036346_1562513080683386_6815764689399699540_n.jp g?oh=6afba75fcce26b58b897b47c682d87eb&oe=55B69000&__gda__=1435040063_ceea50b40148ed952446f69420f3110 0

JustPlainQuirky
03-13-2015, 10:09 PM
Ugly. All of them.

2/10 would not fangirl

Megas_Doux
03-13-2015, 10:09 PM
Interesting.

Namikaze_17
03-13-2015, 10:22 PM
Ugly. All of them.

2/10 would not fangirl

Because of their hoods? High standards much? :rolleyes:


EDIT: I like how Jazz age is rocking the cane. :cool:

Altair1789
03-13-2015, 11:39 PM
Oh my god.. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT LINK

Sadly, it doesn't seem to be an official Ubisoft page, so I don't know how they got the pictures, and it killed my first thought of "YES ITS A DLC", but they quoted my thread, so whoever at "Assassin's Creed Unity Arabic" found/made those pictures, thank you

I think a Tommy gun would be cooler and more realistic for the time period, but a cane's pretty cool too


Do you really think it's Medieval Spain ?

here's the full image ..
https://scontent-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10389289_1562513040683390_825593438456618886_n.jpg ?oh=200ceb2afba0d38e2e4b1877a70927a0&oe=557ADD99

Hm. I'm going to try to find out where he is in the screenshot rather than going by outfit, since it may be fanmade

Mr. Shade, you wouldn't happen to be able to tell us whether or not these were made by Ubisoft, would you? :rolleyes:

Alphacos007
03-14-2015, 12:37 AM
again?

as in a needless second copy or you returned it?

Sorry for the late answer, but yea, a needless second copy. I never actually returned a game before unless they had physical problems.

ze_topazio
03-14-2015, 12:40 AM
Why would you buy the game again? send me the first copy then.

bitebug2003
03-14-2015, 12:52 AM
I'd like to know why they were there in the first place. Cut content?

I liked Bishop and wouldn't mind her 'aiding' me through another Helix rift or similar again :)


(No opinion)

Altair1789
03-14-2015, 12:57 AM
I'd like to know why they were there in the first place. Cut content?

I liked Bishop and wouldn't mind her 'aiding' me through another Helix rift or similar again :)


(No opinion)

Too many "no opinion"s. Time for propaganda.

Welp, I guess the community has spoken. TIME FOR A HELIX MENU DLC

http://i.imgur.com/ckwdVnW.png

Make it happen Ubi

Alphacos007
03-14-2015, 01:51 AM
Why would you buy the game again? send me the first copy then.

To support the DLC? I don't know, it's just a way of saying I would love it. Also, I can't send you because I have it on Steam :rolleyes:

JustPlainQuirky
03-14-2015, 01:54 AM
To support the DLC

there are several things wrong with this statement

GoldenBoy9999
03-14-2015, 02:17 AM
Yay, we have an (almost) full view of the Jazz Age Junkies guy! :cool:

I should do something interesting with that pic...

________

And Altair, where is the poll option for a fully fledged game!? AC 1920's must happen!!! :D

Alphacos007
03-14-2015, 03:05 AM
there are several things wrong with this statement

I meant that DLC in specific, not DLCs in general. I really don't support the DLC practice, but damn I would go against everything in my rules book to get those missions.

Namikaze_17
11-07-2016, 04:41 PM
I don't know if others here are aware, but here's a bit more clarification into each Assassin's setting.

Hell in Hibernia: Irish War of Independence ( 1919 to 1921)

The Bladed Cross: 4th century Byzantine Empire, during the rise of Constantine I

Jazz Age Junkies: 1920s USA, involving contemporary writers like Hemingway, Fitzgerald and Stein (weirdly, they're vaguely described as, "The lives and failures of the most degenerate Americans to ever grace the world's stage") Were they Assassins? Allies?

All courtesy goes to the Abstergo Employee Handbook :D

cawatrooper9
11-07-2016, 04:49 PM
I don't know if others here are aware, but here's a bit more clarification into each Assassin's setting.

Hell in Hibernia: Irish War of Independence ( 1919 to 1921)

The Bladed Cross: 4th century Byzantine Empire, during the rise of Constantine I

Jazz Age Junkies: 1920s USA, involving contemporary writers like Hemingway, Fitzgerald and Stein (weirdly, they're vaguely described as, "The lives and failures of the most degenerate Americans to ever grace the world's stage") Were they Assassins? Allies?

All courtesy goes to the Abstergo Employee Handbook :D

I still really like the idea of an Assassins Creed game set across multiple times, locations, and characters like this, and those settings sound perfect for it.

Namikaze_17
11-07-2016, 04:56 PM
I still really like the idea of an Assassins Creed game set across multiple times, locations, and characters like this, and those settings sound perfect for it.

I could die peacefully if there was to be an AC that tied together older and modern periods with characters into one big picture for the MD.

cawatrooper9
11-07-2016, 09:26 PM
I could die peacefully if there was to be an AC that tied together older and modern periods with characters into one big picture for the MD.

Back when Rogue was under the working title of "Comet", I had this whole idea about an AC game featured around Halley's Comet, and seeing the effects that this celestial body had on the ongoing war between the Assassins and Templars in 75 year intervals. It would even have been okay if it all took place in a single city over time. The rifts in Unity and the secret part of Syndicate were almost steps in the right direction, but I really want to see this concept fully utilized.

Sigma 1313
11-08-2016, 01:55 AM
Back when Rogue was under the working title of "Comet", I had this whole idea about an AC game featured around Halley's Comet, and seeing the effects that this celestial body had on the ongoing war between the Assassins and Templars in 75 year intervals. It would even have been okay if it all took place in a single city over time. The rifts in Unity and the secret part of Syndicate were almost steps in the right direction, but I really want to see this concept fully utilized.

I like the idea of multiple time periods per game, it's why I included it in my Empire GDD. However I think a larger focus on a single setting and character would be better than focusing on say 5 character each with 3 sequences in their own cities. I feel like shorter stories with more assassins would basically leave them poorly characterized and people would end up hating them. I mean Arno, Shay, Jacob, Evie, and Connor all got fully fleshed out stories, and none of them are anywhere near as popular as Altair, Ezio, or Edward. I personally felt like Syndicate was an interesting game for trying 2 characters, but was unable to execute it well enough to make me feel like I am getting to know both characters. They both just became 2d boring archetypes.

Ubi-Banshee
11-09-2016, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the feedback on this guys, I'll be sure to pass it along to the team. Please do continue the discussion!

ArmanYeghoyan
04-01-2017, 09:44 AM
Soo its comletely hoax ? Then where this full images came from ?

https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11043066_1562513087350052_4963617013238679022_n.jp g?oh=60eb8b8b93996ae89106569c5a54d13c&oe=5991EAA9



https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11036346_1562513080683386_6815764689399699540_n.jp g?oh=5f3cd5ba26497444d5a500f64fce2265&oe=59935500




https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10389289_1562513040683390_825593438456618886_n.jpg ?oh=46d5231b390cdc3cb002c796efb73da8&oe=5957A299

LoyalACFan
04-02-2017, 12:01 AM
Soo its comletely hoax ? Then where this full images came from ?

https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11043066_1562513087350052_4963617013238679022_n.jp g?oh=60eb8b8b93996ae89106569c5a54d13c&oe=5991EAA9



https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11036346_1562513080683386_6815764689399699540_n.jp g?oh=5f3cd5ba26497444d5a500f64fce2265&oe=59935500




https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10389289_1562513040683390_825593438456618886_n.jpg ?oh=46d5231b390cdc3cb002c796efb73da8&oe=5957A299

Source materials, most likely. These are probably the images the artists originally made, then were cropped down to size and put into the menu.

ArmanYeghoyan
04-02-2017, 09:17 AM
Source materials, most likely. These are probably the images the artists originally made, then were cropped down to size and put into the menu.

Thanks for reply bro :cool: