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fightwithflight
01-30-2004, 09:26 PM
I was watching We Were Soldiers, and I noticed a prop plane that I have never seen before. It looked like a croos between a P-51, a P-47 and an Fw-190, real ugly thing. Any one know what it is?

fightwithflight
01-30-2004, 09:26 PM
I was watching We Were Soldiers, and I noticed a prop plane that I have never seen before. It looked like a croos between a P-51, a P-47 and an Fw-190, real ugly thing. Any one know what it is?

Snow_Wolf_
01-30-2004, 09:44 PM
A1 Skyraider
http://www.farfromglory.com/images/VNAF_A-1H.jpg

kyrule2
01-30-2004, 11:33 PM
Must have been that dash of P-47 that made it ugly. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

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Tempestate
01-30-2004, 11:37 PM
Did you like we were soldiers BTW

Korolov
01-30-2004, 11:39 PM
Cept the Skyraider was loved by its pilots, SAR crews and ground forces all over. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/newsig1.jpg

BS87
01-30-2004, 11:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tempestate:
Did you like we were soldiers BTW<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then ending really got to me. One of the few movies i've ever watched that made me tear up (not cry mind you, tear.. have to save a little face http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

Eagle_361st
01-31-2004, 01:31 AM
Sandies were fantastic aircraft, they served very well in Vietnam. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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necrobaron
01-31-2004, 01:46 AM
The Skyraider was designed in the 40s, so that probably explains why it might look a little like a "P-51,P-47,and a Fw-190". As for crying in movies,I bawl at the end of more movies than I care to admit! My testosterone wasn't very proud of me.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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V_Flatspin
01-31-2004, 02:57 AM
Skyraider was an awesome plane! Payload was deadly. Story I heard is that it got the first A2A kill in Vietnam when, loaded to the hilt for ground attack it was bounced by a MiG (15 I think). Pilot dumped ord and turned sharply and the MiG cut throttle and tried to follow! LOL!!! Skyraider pilot downed the MiG and RTB'd probably with a load in his shorts!

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S 8
01-31-2004, 03:07 AM
The Douglas AD-1 Skyraider was one of the most successful military aircraft off all time.It was designed as a successor to the Dauntless dive bomber as a single seat attack aircraft with an ordnance load of 1,000lb.In fact it carried up to 10,500lb and 3,180 where built in a number of different versions over a twelwe year period.

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_113_1073048715.jpg

Fornixx
01-31-2004, 06:29 AM
As a ground pounder you simply have to love that plane. Brutal in the same way as a Fw190. A sucessful prop in the jet age calls for some serious respect!

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V_Flatspin
01-31-2004, 07:00 AM
Link w/info (http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap49.htm)

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Vladimir_No2
01-31-2004, 08:23 AM
http://skyraider.org/skyassn/otherpics/mignard/mignard.htm

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tsisqua
01-31-2004, 08:30 AM
Could that possibly have been an influence on the design of the Warthog? Those wings were obviously designed to carry ordinance, and they remind me of the wings on the A-10. Also, the relation between the Jug and the Warthog, (both were called "Thunderbolts"), becomes a bit clearer to me after seeing the A-1.

Am I way off here, or am I finally on to something?

Tsisqua

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Platypus_1.JaVA
01-31-2004, 01:30 PM
Wheren't those planes there in "the flight of the intruder"?

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2 For with what judgment ye judge,
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Korolov
01-31-2004, 01:50 PM
Platypus_1.JaVA - Yes, they were in flight of the intruder.

Tsisqua - No, the A-10 programme was a completely fresh and new program, designed completely from scratch. The A-10 inherited the name because the company that made it was Fairchild/Republic. The wings on the A-10 look similar to the A-1's because they both have the same purpose.

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HarryVoyager
01-31-2004, 07:37 PM
The wing designs are probably related, but the A-10 was built by the company that bought Republic.

Douglas, the company that made the A-1 later merged with McDonnell, and McDonnell-Douglas was later absorbed into Boeing.

As far as I can tell, Fairchild Republic has either gone bankrupt, or was bought out by Dornier, though they might have been sold to Lockheed. There were a lot of mergers, and things got rather confusing there.

Harry Voyager

Edit: You want to see something sad? Take a look: http://www.worldairforces.com/Companies/USAMajor.Web%20files/USA_Major.html

tsisqua
02-01-2004, 11:34 AM
Korolov,
Thank you for helping me with that. That is one that has kept me wondering for years.

I am still thinking of buying LOMAC, just so I can drive the A-10.

Tsisqua

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HarryVoyager
02-01-2004, 01:18 PM
LO:MAC is probably worth it in the long run.

It's buggy, and there are a variety of oddities with the game, but it stands to be the dominant modern flight sim on the market for many years to come.

I've been playing it a bit, in the F-15C mostly, and despite the problems many people have had with that aircraft, I've still found it an enjoyable experience. It has the same magic Il-2 had back in the day, despite the bugs. Just don't let the forum whining get to you.

Harry Voyager

horseback
02-01-2004, 03:42 PM
Ah, the A-1E Skyraider...while the design influences of the Mustang, P-47, and Focke-Wulf 190 may be seen, what you might not recognize is the sheer size of the thing. It may have been as heavy as all three rolled into one.

The model pictured had been designed for two pilots sitting side by side, with room behind them for something like 6-10 passengers.

My reading indicates that the A-1 was indeed an inspiration for the A-10, but that the Gulf War came too late to save Republic Aviation, some of whose elements were most likely absorbed by Grumman (also located in Long Island back in the day) when they went belly-up in the late '70s-early '80s. The A-10 was a tactical triumph, but the 'Hog wasn't sexy like a supersonic lawn dart, and there was only one foreign sale, to Korea, where the ability to crack tanks was properly appreciated.

Lacking foreign customers for its primary product and lacking a US contract to develop a replacement for the still-new F-15, Republic Aviation went the way of the dinosaur.

Those living in the vicinity of March AFB can find the A-10's competitor, the Northrup A-9 on display. It bears an interesting resemblance to the Su-25 'Frogfoot' in both appearance and performance.

Cheers

horseback

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MiloMorai
02-01-2004, 03:57 PM
horseback, looks more like a AD-5(A-1E), pilot in front and the rear facing RO in the back.



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