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Defalt221
03-01-2015, 12:39 PM
Not what the general mass thinks. But what you think as the best protagonist or at least your personal favourite...

dimbismp
03-01-2015, 12:44 PM
We have seen that thread a million times ;)


My favourite is Godzio,with Edward being close(Also,Haytham is not a protagonist.He is just a playable character)

Namikaze_17
03-01-2015, 01:23 PM
Altaïr

Democrito_71
03-01-2015, 02:06 PM
My favorite protagonist is Edward

BananaBlighter
03-01-2015, 02:09 PM
I would say that Haytham shouldn't be on that list, but seeing as he is, I had to vote for him because he's just awesome :)

SpiritOfNevaeh
03-01-2015, 05:20 PM
Sigh...

Another wild favorite character thread appears... :rolleyes:

Xangr8
03-01-2015, 05:41 PM
Arno! ^-^

Stripes__
03-01-2015, 06:51 PM
No Adéwalé?
He's probably my third favorite character.

playlisting
03-01-2015, 08:04 PM
Ezio for me. He was something special and Ubisoft knew that which is why we got a full trilogy dedicated to his story. We got to see him live his life from birth right through until his passing. He's the character I suspect the majority connected most deeply with due to this. Roger Craig Smith also did a fantastic job voice acting him.

Fatal-Feit
03-01-2015, 10:30 PM
Yeah, no. A best protagonist showdown would be devastating.

My favorite are Arnaxe and Cunner.

Altair1789
03-01-2015, 10:36 PM
Samuel Fey

just kidding, Altaïr is #1 and will most likely always be #1

Fatal-Feit
03-01-2015, 10:39 PM
he's got his hidden blade in you deep, doesn't he?

rrebe
03-01-2015, 11:24 PM
While I love all the characters, for me this one was between Arno and Edward.. so I voted for Arno :cool:

Defalt221
03-03-2015, 12:01 PM
Samuel Fey

just kidding, Altaïr is #1 and will most likely always be #1

Samuel Fey has that potential. But it's Ubisoft and...no,they'll not make a great protagonist...
But seriously,THAT MANY CONNOR VOTES?! I thought everyone hated him...

The_Kiwi_
03-03-2015, 03:04 PM
What a unique thread

No Desmond on poll 2/10

Namikaze_17
03-03-2015, 03:09 PM
No Desmond on poll 2/10

No Adéwalé on poll 2/10

ze_topazio
03-03-2015, 03:13 PM
No Alonzo Batilla on poll 2/10

SpiritOfNevaeh
03-03-2015, 05:10 PM
Samuel Fey has that potential. But it's Ubisoft and...no,they'll not make a great protagonist...
But seriously,THAT MANY CONNOR VOTES?! I thought everyone hated him...

1. That's what naysayers want you to think :rolleyes:
2. Connor is pretty loved on this forum :)

Namikaze_17
03-03-2015, 05:26 PM
^
1. *Want
2. This forum only. :rolleyes:

poptartz20
03-03-2015, 05:30 PM
1.
2. Connor is pretty loved on this forum :)

Which is funny too me now... granted it's been like that for awhile, but for the longest time (when I first joined) it was like a never ending Roasting session.


But to answer my question. I luh Connor! woo!

GunnerGalactico
03-03-2015, 05:41 PM
Which is funny too me now... granted it's been like that for awhile, but for the longest time (when I first joined) it was like a never ending Roasting session.


But to answer my question. I luh Connor! woo!

Tell me about it. :rolleyes:

I may have only joined this place last year, but I've been keeping a watchful eye here since 2013. Those were dark times.

poptartz20
03-03-2015, 05:50 PM
Haha! true story... it was funny as well I came here with bright eyes because I really enjoyed AC3 and BOOM. Reality checked...

I've changed... the world has changed. I've become jaded. * wind blows* It will never be the same. * ocean waves clash against cliff*

[End Scene]

LOL.

SpiritOfNevaeh
03-03-2015, 06:23 PM
^
1. *Want
2. This forum only. :rolleyes:

Corrected :rolleyes: :p

Namikaze_17
03-03-2015, 06:25 PM
Corrected :rolleyes: :p

Yes, now run along now and play. :rolleyes: :p

SpiritOfNevaeh
03-03-2015, 06:46 PM
Yes, now run along now and play. :rolleyes: :p

Of course I"ll run along and play... with Connor! :o :rolleyes: :p

GunnerGalactico
03-03-2015, 06:52 PM
Of course I"ll run along and play... with Connor! :o :rolleyes: :p

What part of that is supposed to shock us? :p

Namikaze_17
03-03-2015, 07:15 PM
Of course I"ll run along and play... with Connor! :o :rolleyes: :p

That obsession will destroy you child...

wvstolzing
03-03-2015, 07:48 PM
Ratonhnhaké:ton & Edward are the only instances where the writers came close to portraying real *human beings*.

As opposed to cliches, and cardboard-cutouts.

Fatal-Feit
03-03-2015, 09:39 PM
I wouldn't say Connor is only loved on this forum. There's Tumblr, the subreddit, and I've been seeing quite a lot of love and respect for him on YT. I mean, he's quite popular everywhere else. Probably the 2nd most loved protagonist (although, I'm not neglecting his avid haters).

Look at the comment section.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcUwhFYEqro

Namikaze_17
03-03-2015, 10:39 PM
^ I always love how he kills those guys.

Shahkulu101
03-03-2015, 11:03 PM
Ratonhnhaké:ton & Edward are the only instances where the writers came close to portraying real *human beings*.

As opposed to cliches, and cardboard-cutouts.

This 10x.

Although I think Arno would have come close if the story was more developed. The whole pocket watch arc is actually quite touching, but it's buried under a pile of problems. He's more of a character than Ezio in AC2/B anyway.

phoenix-force411
03-03-2015, 11:58 PM
Glad that Connor is winning.

Fatal-Feit
03-04-2015, 12:14 AM
This 10x.

Although I think Arno would have come close if the story was more developed. The whole pocket watch arc is actually quite touching, but it's buried under a pile of problems. He's more of a character than Ezio in AC2/B anyway.

To be honest, I would include Arno and quite possibly Altair. I don't remember a whole lot about Altair and his story, but he was raised to be a murderer and never knew the warm embrace of a family. So growing up, he was never (what society would deem) right in the head and was considered an outsider by many of his so-called brothers. He didn't know what sanity was, and how could he? It was apparent throughout the beginning of AC1 and watching him starting to open up the world and becoming more wise, more... sympathetic (raising a family and understanding love) felt, or at least what I remember, very real. But again, I've got to replay AC1 and ACR because my memories of Altair is fuzzy. =p

As for Arno, I consider him to be just as human as Connor and Edward are. The story could have used more development, but I felt they nailed his character arc. Or his human qualities, at least. Arno wasn't just suffering from trauma, as apparent throughout the game, he was also love sick. As SixKeys would describe, Unity's love story is one of a break up. At heart, Arno's past have made him into a weak person so he needs someone in his life. Not only have his mother abandoned him, his father was murdered. Someone needed be his driving force and that person became Elise. Whenever Elise was gone, he gambled and caused trouble. It's apparent he didn't care about anyone else during his early years. When she left him, he continues to drink his sorrow away, but never forgot her. Even when she neglected him, he remained by her side and continued to avenge those who wronged her family. Arno's a traumatized character, he's frail at heart, affected by rejection, he drinks to dull the pain, neglects the world around him, make quick wits about the abnormalities and how bizarre the Assassin's Creed franchise can be, etc. Besides all of the badass Assassin mumbo jumbo, I feel like Arno showed realistic qualities of a human being.

Shahkulu101
03-04-2015, 12:38 AM
To be honest, I would include Arno and quite possibly Altair. I don't remember a whole lot about Altair and his story, but he was raised to be a murderer and never knew the warm embrace of a family. So growing up, he was never (what society would deem) right in the head and was considered an outsider by many of his so-called brothers. He didn't know what sanity was, and how could he? It was apparent throughout the beginning of AC1 and watching him starting to open up the world and becoming more wise, more... sympathetic (raising a family and understanding love) felt, or at least what I remember, very real. But again, I've got to replay AC1 and ACR because my memories of Altair is fuzzy. =p

As for Arno, I consider him to be just as human as Connor and Edward are. The story could have used more development, but I felt they nailed his character arc. Or his human qualities, at least. Arno wasn't just suffering from trauma, as apparent throughout the game, he was also love sick. As SixKeys would describe, Unity's love story is one of a break up. At heart, Arno's past have made him into a weak person so he needs someone in his life. Not only have his mother abandoned him, his father was murdered. Someone needed be his driving force and that person became Elise. Whenever Elise was gone, he gambled and caused trouble. It's apparent he didn't care about anyone else during his early years. When she left him, he continues to drink his sorrow away, but never forgot her. Even when she neglected him, he remained by her side and continued to avenge those who wronged her family. Arno's a traumatized character, he's frail at heart, affected by rejection, he drinks to dull the pain, neglects the world around him, make quick wits about the abnormalities and how bizarre the Assassin's Creed franchise can be, etc. Besides all of the badass Assassin mumbo jumbo, I feel like Arno showed realistic qualities of a human being.

Maybe Altair, but I just never really got invested in his character. He was more interesting in the Codex Pages than he ever was on screen, because that was after the events of AC1 and it was only really at the end of the game he started to develop. ACR goes some way to expanding on his relationships with other characters but these small glimpses aren't really enough, Maria is quickly killed off and we get one escort mission with Darim. I don't think he's a bad character by any means but I do think he had more potential.

I agree about everything you said about Arno and I like him as a protagonist, but while I feel his overall arc makes sense I feel like the moment to moment writing just wasn't there. He loves Elise and she's his driving force, but I never really saw any chemistry between the two. The few conversations they have are mostly just exposition about where to find Germain and all that stuff. There's no candid, human conversation. So I kind of ask myself why is he even in love with her? She doesn't show much qualities apart from being smokin' hot - and Arno just bumbles along. Their relationship failed to convince me. Unity and Arno as a character have all the ingredients to be a great character story but the writing and script just aren't there. In general it has some of the most yawn-inducing, totally dry dialogue in any AC game save for Marquis De Sade (who's just brilliant tbh) and a few quips from Arno - and that's disappointing after the fantastic script that ACIV had. I think the overall writing harms Arno's character quite a bit.

SpiritOfNevaeh
03-04-2015, 01:01 AM
I wouldn't say Connor is only loved on this forum. There's Tumblr, the subreddit, and I've been seeing quite a lot of love and respect for him on YT. I mean, he's quite popular everywhere else. Probably the 2nd most loved protagonist (although, I'm not neglecting his avid haters).

Look at the comment section.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcUwhFYEqro

God, I love that video.

And yes, I love that fact that people are starting to appreciate him more everywhere else, even on the places that first hated him.


Ratonhnhaké:ton & Edward are the only instances where the writers came close to portraying real *human beings*.

As opposed to cliches, and cardboard-cutouts.

OMG Agreed.

I'd prefer realistic and relatable characters over cliches anyway.

Altair1789
03-04-2015, 01:14 AM
Samuel Fey has that potential. But it's Ubisoft and...no,they'll not make a great protagonist...
But seriously,THAT MANY CONNOR VOTES?! I thought everyone hated him...

The only thing I worry about is that they might resort to AC2 clones

Namikaze_17
03-04-2015, 01:42 AM
I never really saw any chemistry between the two. The few conversations they have are mostly just exposition about where to find Germain and all that stuff. There's no candid, human conversation. So I kind of ask myself why is he even in love with her?

I found myself thinking this too.

They were kinda lacking that dynamic Connor & Haytham had for example.

Not that I hated it, the childhood stuff was pretty alright.

Fatal-Feit
03-04-2015, 01:59 AM
Maybe Altair, but I just never really got invested in his character. He was more interesting in the Codex Pages than he ever was on screen, because that was after the events of AC1 and it was only really at the end of the game he started to develop. ACR goes some way to expanding on his relationships with other characters but these small glimpses aren't really enough, Maria is quickly killed off and we get one escort mission with Darim. I don't think he's a bad character by any means but I do think he had more potential.

Yeah, unfortunately I don't have any memories of him after the first main assassination mission so I can't exactly speak for his character or the development process afterwards.


I agree about everything you said about Arno and I like him as a protagonist, but while I feel his overall arc makes sense I feel like the moment to moment writing just wasn't there. He loves Elise and she's his driving force, but I never really saw any chemistry between the two. The few conversations they have are mostly just exposition about where to find Germain and all that stuff. There's no candid, human conversation. So I kind of ask myself why is he even in love with her? She doesn't show much qualities apart from being smokin' hot - and Arno just bumbles along. Their relationship failed to convince me. Unity and Arno as a character have all the ingredients to be a great character story but the writing and script just aren't there. In general it has some of the most yawn-inducing, totally dry dialogue in any AC game save for Marquis De Sade (who's just brilliant tbh) and a few quips from Arno - and that's disappointing after the fantastic script that ACIV had. I think the overall writing harms Arno's character quite a bit.

Here's the thing, and this is from a conversation I had with someone here outside of the forum. We both are love romantics who've been in a long time relationship. Love is not just romance. Love is understanding, love is companionship, love is simply wanting to be together and liking to spend time with each other. The scene where we first meet the grownup Elise and how she shoos Arno away - shows more love than any of the AC games. And w/o getting too in-depth and hellbent on labeling every scene and/or dialog, Unity as a whole is a testament to that. ''I wonder if it's possible to know, if people who complain about ACU's love story were in a long-term relationship themselves.'' That's not an insult to anyone, just curiosity. Unity's love relationship is not a cliche, it's not fabricated for sake of romance, it's what AC have always been about, and that's showcasing reality. Many can consider it a break up story and IMO, it's because so that I believe it's a brilliant love story. It's similar to how Connor never saved his village. It's not the story or happy ending I want, but it's the story I understand and can respect. =p

But yeah, moving on, I'm incline to disagree, I believe the dialog and script are fantastic in Unity. Perhaps they lack the charm and charisma of Black Flag's, but I felt they had more character and personality than say, AC1 and 3. It was appropriate for the setting. TBH, I felt they overdid it by making Marquis Du Sade, what I felt was too eccentric, and Arno w/ his witty remarks. But I do agree that the writing had problems. Unity's story could use better pacing, etc, but I don't want to get off-topic here.

Megas_Doux
03-04-2015, 02:22 AM
Story = Edward.
Gameplay = Altair/Arno.


Alair = kinda hated/dissed in 2007-2009. He is respected now, after all he is the original.
Ezio = Almost Universally acclaimed by MANY fans and "casuals" alike. He he has some detractors though.
Connor = Polarizing, aka many fans and many haters.
Edward = Not as loved as Ezio, but fairly popular.
Arno = Who the hell is that guy??? Oh, the protagonist of that broken game.....

Shahkulu101
03-04-2015, 02:25 AM
My problem isn't the fact it's not a happy ending or that Elise is more concentrated on revenge than Arno - that's realistic and believable and one of the things I like - it's the relationship as a whole I just don't think clicks. I agree the scene where she shoos Arno away does show some love (and is pretty hot) and you can tell there is a spark there like in the hot air balloon scene, but my problem is that I don't understand why they're drawn to each other in the first place, and that Elise lacks depth in terms of character qualities. Then there's the point I mentioned in my earlier post, they simply don't speak very often and when they do it's formal, all-business discussions. I did enjoy the love story, but it lacks the depth of character introspection that say, The Last of Us or even Uncharted (Nate and Elena) has.

But yeah I think we should move on from that point, we aren't discussing the writing. I will say that the dialogue with Elise and Pierre was mostly good, and with De Sade it was great, but listening to the tremendously dull Assassin Council and those Templar's was very tedious.

Namikaze_17
03-04-2015, 02:25 AM
Altair = kinda hated/dissed in 2007-2009. He is respected now, after all he is the original.
Ezio = Almost Universally acclaimed by MANY fans and "casuals" alike. He he has some detractors though.
Connor = Polarizing, aka many fans and many haters.
Edward = Not as loved as Ezio, but fairly popoular.
Arno = Who the hell is that guy??? Oh, the protagonist of that broken game.....

The most accurate description yet...


the tremendously dull Assassin Council

Oh, yeah...who were they again?

Let's see there's Mirabeau, the black guy, the middle-aged woman, and that other dude that slightly looked like Mario. :rolleyes:

Megas_Doux
03-04-2015, 02:33 AM
My problem isn't the fact it's not a happy ending or that Elise is more concentrated on revenge than Arno - that's realistic and believable and one of the things I like - it's the relationship as a whole I just don't think clicks. I agree the scene where she shoos Arno away does show some love (and is pretty hot) and you can tell there is a spark there like in the hot air balloon scene, but my problem is that I don't understand why they're drawn to each other in the first place, and that Elise lacks depth in terms of character qualities. Then there's the point I mentioned in my earlier post, they simply don't speak very often and when they do it's formal, all-business discussions. I did enjoy the love story, but it lacks the depth of character introspection that say, The Last of Us or even Uncharted (Nate and Elena) has.

But yeah I think we should move on from that point, we aren't discussing the writing. I will say that the dialogue with Elise and Pierre was mostly good, and with De Sade it was great, but listening to the tremendously dull Assassin Council and those Templar's was very tedious.

Ubi wasted a setting with HUGE potential by focusing on a love story that ended being not so good......

Shahkulu101
03-04-2015, 02:36 AM
The woman was Marie Trenet.

The black gentleman was something Beylier I think.

And the other guy is Master Quemar.

Cheers, AC wiki :rolleyes: (although I replayed it and their names *are* mentioned - but it's easy to miss)

Namikaze_17
03-04-2015, 03:10 AM
Wiki has saved us. :rolleyes:

Fatal-Feit
03-04-2015, 03:13 AM
AC Wiki is pretty underrated.

Defalt221
03-04-2015, 11:14 AM
1. That's what naysayers want you to think :rolleyes:

Good. Let's make Ubisoft think that ,we believe that Ubisoft can't make a great protagonist. Out of rage then Ubisoft would make a great protagonist. Let's troll!

Defalt221
03-04-2015, 11:15 AM
AC Wiki is pretty underrated.

True. That website has more news and info than a library could ever hold. And they even have brilliant walkthrough strategies.

siralex1986
03-04-2015, 12:49 PM
Connor's winning?? Seriously??

I'd say.....unexpected, at the very least.

Btw, voted for Ezio, ofc!

Xangr8
03-04-2015, 01:18 PM
Arno! C'mon you can do it, mon ami!

Shahkulu101
03-04-2015, 02:24 PM
Arno's got 5 votes? Surprising, especially since Shay only has 1.

Where y'all Templar's at?

Namikaze_17
03-04-2015, 02:57 PM
Where y'all Templar's at?

I hardly vote on polls so... :rolleyes:

I bet the one voter is Kaschra. :p

Fatal-Feit
03-04-2015, 07:13 PM
I love Shay, but he wasn't as unique or interesting of a character I had hoped him to be. =P

ERICATHERINE
03-04-2015, 08:23 PM
Go, Connor. ^-^

historagamer24
03-05-2015, 02:29 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only person who really like Conner

ERICATHERINE
03-05-2015, 04:30 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only person who really like Conner

For me, there is only one other caracter that I like almost as much as Connor and it's Desmond and, even if I like the other named for the poll very much, they all came +/- far behind Desmond.

pirate1802
03-05-2015, 07:58 AM
Favourite Assassin Protag: Edurado

Favourite overall protagonist: Haymitch

XxEagleHeartxX
03-05-2015, 08:08 AM
I will have to go with Edward!

Defalt221
03-05-2015, 12:03 PM
We have seen that thread a million times ;)


My favourite is Godzio,with Edward being close(Also,Haytham is not a protagonist.He is just a playable character)

LOL. Someone created another new one here: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1020643-Vote-for-your-favourite-protagonist

SirSionis
03-08-2015, 03:59 PM
Shay and Altaïr,(maybe Haytham too)but I voted for Shay.