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06-15-2004, 06:04 AM
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Merlin (FZG_Immel)
06-15-2004, 06:22 AM
'cause they are not official. Leak..

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
06-15-2004, 08:13 AM
this is UBI right? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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GT182
06-15-2004, 06:04 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
this is UBI right?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is IL-2 Sturmovik. You're at the right place but maybe a bit early. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif The patch they be saying is out is NOT the "official" 2.02 patch. Hang tight like the majority of us and it will magically appear when they deem it ready for release.

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VMF513_Sandman
06-15-2004, 06:36 PM
they finally fix the american guns the way they should be and now they say it aint official.....methinks oleg finally made the 50 caliber a killer and now he dont want it like that no more http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

WWMaxGunz
06-15-2004, 06:46 PM
They have it in Russia, so don't blame 1C for this one....

GBOF
06-16-2004, 04:30 AM
Because UBI probably want to have a lot of beta testers for the patch. May be this is necessary to see that everything is going right before say an official word.... who knows http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

JG54_Arnie
06-16-2004, 04:32 AM
Check the main site maybe??? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Tully__
06-16-2004, 06:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
They have it in Russia, so don't blame 1C for this one....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But it still isn't official.... missed the word "leaked" in an earlier post didn't we http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

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VMF513_Sandman
06-16-2004, 08:09 AM
it's like i said before....since the official patch from ubi is 2.01, i'm having some1 else recon 2.01 before i even think about switching from 2.02. if the american planes firepower in the 50 cal's have been cut, the proper shot pattern of the 38 that is right in 2.02 been porked in 2.01, forget it. i refuse to switch to 2.01. those that fly the american planes have had to wait too long for the 50 caliber to get the recognition and respect it deserves.
in 2.0, the 50's were so weak i'm suprised it could even kill a aaa gun let alone an aircraft. in 2.02, the 50's are as deadly as they were in 1.22 and it's about time. the shotgun spray pattern that oleg tried to shove off on the p-38 was fixed.....after about 17 pages of gripes, charts, facts, et al about it.

if the only thing the 109's had was weak mg, and rather weak cannons, there'd be a thread 19 pages long in about 2 days. u luftwaffe pilots expect the 190/109's to be right on the $, but those that fly the american planes dont deserve the same respect. ummm......which side won the war? if the p-38 was as bad in rl as it is in aep with the way oleg modeled the gun pattern and the gun strength, the german's wouldnt have called it a fork tailed devil, nor would they have feared the mustang. surviving pilots would have kept the planes grounded until high command unporked their rides. say what u want.....but i'm stayin with 2.02.

WWMaxGunz
06-16-2004, 08:27 AM
No Tully, I didn't miss the word leaked.
I didn't miss the word UBI either.

When I saw the news first about Russian RELEASE, the word leak wasn't there.
Maybe Ivan can say something that is not party line? He is able to read
from Russian boards as well as here or knows someone who can. He is the
one who was able to tell what's happening last friday. Or has Ivan been
put on ice by UBI already?

So can you say about in RUSSIA, the other side of the UBI Curtain, if the
patch there was a RELEASE or a LEAK? Because in spite of WORDS, that is
the POINT of which I wrote.


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LuckyBoy1
06-16-2004, 08:34 AM
Man, oh man, I don't want to see this thread deteriorate into a .50 debate or nation bashing. However, over time, I have seen a pattern in the way they release patches. It seems Russia and Germany get to chew on the new version for about a week or so. Then they change it again slightly (or maybe even more than slightly) and then we get it in the States about two weeks after it is released in Russia nad Germany. When we finally get the patch, the P-47 still has the bomb loads wrong and the role rate not right. The 190's still fly without running out of gas too long at 25% fuel loadout. The 109's aren't so much overmodelled as the U.S. planes are undermodelled. Do I want pinpoint accuracy from the .50? No! Do I want my U.S. plane to outfly anything else under all conditions? No!

Right now, I'm running the 2.02 and the Japanese planes still out-turn the American planes (hey, just like in real life). The American planes are just a tad faster (hey, just like in real life) and if you manage to get a few rounds into the Japanese plane, it goes right down (Hey, just like in real life). It will be interesting... no, I take that back; let's see what the "official" 2.02 version is like because I suspect reality will take another hit to satisfy some other agenda.

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JV44_Schtirlitz
06-16-2004, 10:13 AM
As of now,June 16,12:12 pm Eastern,there's NO official Russian release of 2.02.
Be sure http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

WWMaxGunz
06-16-2004, 10:35 AM
Well they can't take a release back, so it must have leaked there as well.

What a shame, for once I thought "Hey a timely release of small fixes without
a huge download featuring more new problems!". Sighhhhhhhhhh


Neal

JG54_Lukas
06-16-2004, 11:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LuckyBoy1:
It seems Russia and Germany get to chew on the new version for about a week or so.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The patch released in Germany is the same released to everyone outside of Russia... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Luftcaca
06-16-2004, 11:07 AM
so eum guys whats in the new "leaked" patch? new planes or something? I'd like to know whats all about even if Im waiting for the official one

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Aaron_GT
06-16-2004, 02:32 PM
Luckyboy wrote:
"It seems Russia and Germany get to chew on the new version for about a week or so."

Now.. let me think.. what's the native language of the dev team... Russian? So maybe it gets released in Russia first as they don't need someone to go through and check the translations of all the readmes, in game text, etc?

Aaron_GT
06-16-2004, 02:37 PM
Luckyboy,

If the patches were different in Russia to the USA then there would be no online compatibility - the anti cheat systems would prevent people with different versions being able to be in the same game. This implies that they get the same patch (apart from language support, which isn't in the part of the system checked by the anti cheat mechanism).

WWMaxGunz
06-16-2004, 02:46 PM
The difference between Russia and elsewhere is that UBI doesn't handle
publication and distribution in Russia.

LuckyBoy1
06-16-2004, 07:15 PM
Yeah, you guys are right. Sounded like a good conspiracy theory at the time. My apologies to everyone. Now let me go take my anti-paranoid pills! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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Tully__
06-17-2004, 04:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
No Tully, I didn't miss the word leaked.
I didn't miss the word UBI either.

When I saw the news first about Russian RELEASE, the word leak wasn't there.
Maybe Ivan can say something that is not party line? He is able to read
from Russian boards as well as here or knows someone who can. He is the
one who was able to tell what's happening last friday. Or has Ivan been
put on ice by UBI already?

So can you say about in RUSSIA, the other side of the UBI Curtain, if the
patch there was a RELEASE or a LEAK? Because in spite of WORDS, that is
the POINT of which I wrote.


Neal<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since I get all my info from here, all I know is party line http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ivan speaks & reads fluent Russian, if he says he got info off the Russian boards you can almost guarantee he read it first hand.

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Copperhead310th
06-20-2004, 01:46 AM
My 1 & only rant so far...
Well the way I understand it is the damn patch has been finnished for some time now.
& ONCE AGIAN the UBI goofballs are holding it back. & for WHAT? so the clowns around the office can have a go with it 1st?
gimme a freakin break. i'm so sick of this kinda ****. Olegs's beta team has already put it through the ringer. no need to beta the damn thing twice. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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polkku
06-20-2004, 02:38 AM
Yep, always the same thin with these patches. Some of the admins tells us the release date, which is newer correct. We don't get the patch at the mentioned release date, but we do get a month of silence from the admins. What's the point of telling the release date if you are sure the patch will be delayed? Atleast it would be nice to know why the patch is delayed. With this kind of treatment, I cant blame those who distribute and test the leaked 2.02 patch.

starfighter1
06-23-2004, 02:27 AM
hi,
we are just waiting for 2.03...
the leaked one is an unofficial test..
believe me..

pourshot
06-23-2004, 03:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by starfighter1:
hi,
we are just waiting for 2.03...
the leaked one is an unofficial test..
believe me..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah right, but then if it was a beta why does it say 2.02 and not beta X or RC X http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The fact is UBI is holding back the Official patch to punish those of us that downloaded the real but leaked one, Be Sure.

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|CoB|_Spectre
06-23-2004, 04:28 AM
I've always wondered what childhood influences some people have that leads them to conclude they are being "punished" when things don't go as expected. This is only speculation, but could it be possible that Oleg has separate distribution rights within Russia and Ubi has them everywhere else? If that is so, it might explain why the 2.02 was released in Russia over a week ago. As a business, Ubi has standard operating procedures, especially if they're like everyone else on the planet and feel like they must conform to the dreaded ISO 9000 stuff. Their SOP probably REQUIRES that any software undergo validation checks by their own QA department prior to release. To just say that Oleg's team has already checked it and that should be good enough is naive. Companies like Ubi have too much of a financial stake to put out a product sight unseen. Personally, I thought Oleg's "public beta" on one of the pre-AEP patches was a fantastic idea. It is expected that thousands of beta testers using hundreds of different platforms can find bugs and issues that a dozen testers simply cannot. Rumor was that this caused friction between 1C:Maddox and Ubi, so whether or not that's true, you haven't seen it happen again, which is too bad. Differences of opinion over FMs, DMs and such will always arise, but on the whole, everyone wants a bugless program and usually agrees it's worth waiting for. Just not indefinitely. I suspect Ubi has decided it's best not to say anything about projected releases since they habitually miss the target and the ensuing uproar is daunting.

PE_Tigar
06-23-2004, 04:48 AM
Well, contrary to the popular belief, it hasn't been released in Russia--same thing happened there as happened here, with one difference--they don't have "leaked" Russian version of the patch http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. I too have doubts about 2.02 release, 2.03 looks more likely. There still are some glaring bugs in 2.01 that haven't been remedied by 2.02 (P-51 B and C loosing wings pulling out from dive with speeds above 620 km/h, for example. I have that one tested and documented, sending the track and test data to MG tonight).

pourshot
06-23-2004, 05:11 AM
ROFLMFAO ok ok their QA team must look to see that it has no bugs.( wipes tears from eyes )

Um what QA would that be then.Would that be the one on the back of every game that say "we will no be responsable for any damage this software does to your pc" or words to that effect.

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|CoB|_Spectre
06-23-2004, 10:32 AM
No, that would be the Ubi QA group that has been referred to by their spokesmen prior to previous releases. With a signup date as old as your's, surely you've seen it before. Hey, don't blame me, I wish we had the patch already too. As complex as this sim is, you should be amazed it isn't more buggy.

Philipscdrw
06-23-2004, 10:55 AM
I thought Ubi are waiting to release the 2.2 patch. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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