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[TheAquaticApe]

So yesturday my new AMD 64 CPU and MSI board came, I had a good friend of mine hook me up and install everything. First game I install, Far Cry, and I was just blown away, I wasn't expecting the quality to be so good. When Far Cry did that lil diagnostics to check what your gfx should be set at it came out Very High, I was like, ah well it still might run at a low FPS. Nope, smooth sailing in Single Player never going below 40fps 90% of the time. Yeah I still got some 29fps and such, but even then it was still smooth. Just awesome, just saying if your invest in an AMD 64 you wont be discouraged. Also, works great online, same preformance.
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[TheAquaticApe]

So yesturday my new AMD 64 CPU and MSI board came, I had a good friend of mine hook me up and install everything. First game I install, Far Cry, and I was just blown away, I wasn't expecting the quality to be so good. When Far Cry did that lil diagnostics to check what your gfx should be set at it came out Very High, I was like, ah well it still might run at a low FPS. Nope, smooth sailing in Single Player never going below 40fps 90% of the time. Yeah I still got some 29fps and such, but even then it was still smooth. Just awesome, just saying if your invest in an AMD 64 you wont be discouraged. Also, works great online, same preformance.
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[mr.amphibian]

i just recieved an amd 64 3000+ with killer saving off ebay.. cant wait till a mobo arrives so I can try it out



and to think i woulda went for a oem 3200+ instead of the retail 64 3000+ for the same price.

whats ur other specs.. cos im gonna have a 9800pro 128mb, 1gc pc 2700/ddr 333 with sum random (cheapest mobo i could find) gigabyte with 64bit support
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[TheAquaticApe]

AMD 64 3200+
MSI K8T NEO (Awesome Motherboard)
1gig DDR RAM
Radeon 9800 Pro 256Mb

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[w00t66]

Would that b the MSI K8T NEO F1S2R A64?
what kind of FPS are you getting ? ( without lies please)
Cause i am very interested in getting me the next set up,
* MSI K8T NEO F1S2R A64
* AMD Athlon 64 3000 2.00GHz BOX
Ill have to keep my Nvidia FX-5600EQ till the x800 platinum dropps in price (loads)

[TheAquaticApe]

Lol without lies? Why would I feel the need to lie anyways? yeesh....as I said earlier 90% of the time my lowest FPS are about 40...on occasion I still drop to 29-35, so far since I reformated and re-installed FC, I'm only to the Regulator level. Also, in some places I get awesome FPS, 60+, but also, like I said, even if I drop in FPS it runs smooth, you dont get that normal feeling of choppyness or slowdown.
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AMD 64 3200+
MSI K8T NEO Motherboard
Radeon 9800 Pro 256Mb
1gig DDR RAM

[MegaMan1966]

Hi,

What I have been reading about the new 64-bit AMD, is it realy only helps business with databases right now, I don't think its a good idea to buy it unless your getting a new systam any way, and have lots of cash to speend, the software and games we all run right now are 32 bit... Never buy the latest harware, the cost to performence ratio is not good......

http://www.pricewatch.com/
I am waiting for a price drop on the AXDA3200 Athlon XP 3200+ BARTON 512K, price right now 175.00, I bet with in 3 months it drops to 125.00, then I will upgrade my main board, memmory too..
right now I run a Athlon XP 2000, it was 120 bucks just a few months a ago, now its $46


AMD Athlon64 3200+ 32/64-bit Processor Review
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1469


The limitations of 32-bit
64-bit sounds magical doesn't it? Full of the promise of faster and more powerful computing. After all, 64 is two times 32, so there has got to be a performance increase right?

Well, yes and no. When we refer to 32-bit or 64-bit processors, what we are talking about is primarily the size of the registers, tiny, high-speed memory areas built right into the chip itself, closer even than the level 1 cache memory. You can think of them as the hands of the processor, in that they hold values to be operated on or combined.

As a vastly simplified example, say you want to add two integers together such as 2 + 3. Both values must be stored in separate registers until the adding operation can be performed, at which point the resulting value of 5 is deposited in a third register for transfer out. Any data to be processed must at some point end up in a register, therefore the number and size of the registers helps to determine the overall performance of the processor.

Ok, so 64-bit processors have 64-bit registers instead of 32, so they are faster, yes? Hmm, there is a catch though. When performing mathematical operations with integers (whole numbers), having a 64-bit register only helps performance if the integers being worked on are numbers larger than 32 bits, which is rather unlikely in current software. If you are adding 2 + 3 or 4,987,606 + 5,000,065 you are still going to need one register for each value and one for the answer, and the system doesn't care whether they are 32-bit or 64-bit registers, because you can only store one value in them at any given time.

When operating on floating point (decimal) numbers, a 64-bit register would seem to give added precision, as it can hold more numbers after the decimal place, but the x86 architecture, on which all current 32-bit Intel and AMD CPUs are based already provides for 64-bit floating point registers (actually 80 bits internally) so no advantage is gained there either. So what's the point? Well, there is one, and it's a good one. Memory.

To access an area in the computer's physical memory (RAM) to store or retrieve data, the processor needs the address of that location, which is an integer number representing one byte of memory storage.

Suddenly, having 64-bit registers makes sense as, while a 32-bit processor can access up to 4.3 billion memory addresses (232) for a total of about 4GB of physical memory, a 64-bit processor could conceivably access over 18 petabytes of physical memory.

This is the one area that clearly shows why 64-bit processors are the future of computing, as demanding applications such as databases have long been scraping on the 4GB memory ceiling, and although Microsoft and Intel have combined to enable servers using the 32-bit Xeon processor and certain versions of Windows 2003 Server to utilize more than 4GB of memory, the amount that can be accessed per-application is still less than 3GB.

If you are a business with a database of a terabyte or more of information, the 64-bit AMD Athlon64 processors look pretty good right now.



-My Specs

-WindowsXP
-ASUS A7V8X-X (VIA KT400 chipset, 400MHz Bus Speed)
-Athlon XP 2000 1.67GHz (Socket-A) 266FSB CPU
-MSI Geforce4 TI4200 128 mb DDR
-1024 DDR systam ram
-the rest is basic spec

[This message was edited by MegaMan1966 on Thu June 03 2004 at 10:17 AM.]

[MegaMan1966]

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[ZantenX]

While that artical is true, there are other advantages gained when using the 64 bit processer in 64 bit mode. Such as new instruction set, more registers, and the OS seems to have an easier time (not sure on specifics, but I was reading one artical from microsoft saying that running 32 bit apps under the 64bit OS had an average of 8% performance increases).

[furror116]

ok a 64 bit processor cannot access over 18 petabytes of physical memory, actually if you had the right setup a 32 bit processor could access the same amount of ram a 64 bit processor could. however in terms of personal computing and the fact that 18 petabytes of ram would cost somewhere in the ballpark of 100 million dollars+ (of which windows would still take up 40% of you know that for a fact). In a typical setup a 64 bit processor can recognize 8 gigs of ram. twice that of a 32 whos stuck at 4. I currently have 1 gig of Registered Dual Channel DDR3200 with my Asus SK8N mobo with my FX-53 processor with a SATA RAID-0 configuration (two 200 gig 7200rpm Maxtors) and a 9800XT and this system is a freaking space heater that performs just as hot. in case anyone is into it www.rage3d.com has a utility that overclocks radeons, it's safe if you can use overdrive with it so your card will shutdown before damage sets in. got my radeon at 477mhz core and 414mhz memor and it runs smooth as silk. also if you want to see the wave of the future computing check this out you'll let one loose in your pants for sure http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/index.htm they're due out to have an AMD 64 out later on.