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XyZspineZyX · 09-12-2003, 07:09 PM

I just thought I'd ask you all how you feel about this. It could become a lively discussion (even though I'm sure we've had our share of beating this subject to the ground at times).

Anyhow, I recently saw the trailer of "Call of Duty" (for those that do not know, it is a video game based on WW2).

Do you think it is right to base a game on a war which was a terrible situation for people from all over the world?

I'm not quite sure what side I'm on, but I do believe that I wouldn't feel any convictions of wrong-doing by playing the game as long as it is done with taste. What I don't like about the idea of playing a game like this, is the immature players. The L33T ones that make fun of people and screw up the gaming experience. I suppose they have always been a problem with gaming communities, but I think they would totally anger me if they take a game based on a serious situation lightly as they would with other games. But at the same time, it is a game, so why not have fun?

I personally believe that just like watching WW2 movies (entertainment) and playing video games tastefully based on WW2 (another form of entertainment), you want to feel the experience to better remember the soldiers' sacrifices and courage.

And on the same token, I personally would not know how I would feel if someone made a video game about firefighters going into the world trade center, or a game based on being a person trying to escape from the world trade center for purposes of rememberance through entertainment.

But on another note [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif[/img] , 9-11 is not a "time period" or a long drawn out conflict between many nations (maybe in a smaller sense), but it all happened in one day; one fateful, tragic event.

World War 2 was not a "tragic event" per se, because it was a time of war for everyone. It also had it's good come out of it - liberation, economic freedom, technological advancements, and it's cause was just. 9-11 was just a tragic day in history. Perhaps the war on terror is what has become from that event, but the war on terror though related, is still an effect of a disaster. World War 2 was a conflict between good and evil that lasted years; though tragically a lot have lost their lives, but for a just cause.

There is a lot more I'd probably say but I think I may have said too much already (I apparently complicate things too much).

What do you believe?

<table style="filter:glow[color=blue, strength=4)">"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
- George Orwell</table>
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XyZspineZyX · 09-12-2003, 07:09 PM

I just thought I'd ask you all how you feel about this. It could become a lively discussion (even though I'm sure we've had our share of beating this subject to the ground at times).

Anyhow, I recently saw the trailer of "Call of Duty" (for those that do not know, it is a video game based on WW2).

Do you think it is right to base a game on a war which was a terrible situation for people from all over the world?

I'm not quite sure what side I'm on, but I do believe that I wouldn't feel any convictions of wrong-doing by playing the game as long as it is done with taste. What I don't like about the idea of playing a game like this, is the immature players. The L33T ones that make fun of people and screw up the gaming experience. I suppose they have always been a problem with gaming communities, but I think they would totally anger me if they take a game based on a serious situation lightly as they would with other games. But at the same time, it is a game, so why not have fun?

I personally believe that just like watching WW2 movies (entertainment) and playing video games tastefully based on WW2 (another form of entertainment), you want to feel the experience to better remember the soldiers' sacrifices and courage.

And on the same token, I personally would not know how I would feel if someone made a video game about firefighters going into the world trade center, or a game based on being a person trying to escape from the world trade center for purposes of rememberance through entertainment.

But on another note [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif[/img] , 9-11 is not a "time period" or a long drawn out conflict between many nations (maybe in a smaller sense), but it all happened in one day; one fateful, tragic event.

World War 2 was not a "tragic event" per se, because it was a time of war for everyone. It also had it's good come out of it - liberation, economic freedom, technological advancements, and it's cause was just. 9-11 was just a tragic day in history. Perhaps the war on terror is what has become from that event, but the war on terror though related, is still an effect of a disaster. World War 2 was a conflict between good and evil that lasted years; though tragically a lot have lost their lives, but for a just cause.

There is a lot more I'd probably say but I think I may have said too much already (I apparently complicate things too much).

What do you believe?

<table style="filter:glow[color=blue, strength=4)">"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
- George Orwell</table>
[/b][/i]
<marquee bgcolor="#000000">Now in the news................................Ubisoft loses sales due to poor customer service and falsly advertised "technical support".....................In a gathering of top Bush administration officials, word leaked out that America wants to stop N. Korea from building Nuclear Reactors just because N. Korea is full Ubisoft supporters.....................Ubisoft enemies grow %3.25 today.....................Newest patch for Raven Shield include a whopping 14 extra computer crashing bugs, with a bonus extra level that makes your computer explode and kill you.....................New patch available for download for Ubisoft's Raven Shield (patch 1.99999999b).....................Culprit in massive power outage in the N.E. of United States found; A computer gamer was playing Raven Shield, and the FPS' dropped so low, that it drained the electricity of the N.E......................New investigation concludes that Liberia broke into civil war because their president defended Ubisoft, and the citizens did not.....................Author Tom Clancy gets arrested today as he enters game company Ubisoft offices, and strikes a developer several times in the face before escorted out of the building by a SWAT team.....................Man wanted for murder takes hostages in Montana home; police say that the demands are that Ubisoft stops screwing customers over. The police abruptly stopped negotiating when they found out his demands, and sent in the SWAT team in fear that the demands were impossible.....................Ex-Police Chief Charles Moose tells reporters of why he didn't write about his lousy experiences with game company Ubisoft. Moose says he will have to write another book just about that................................Man in L.A. jumps off 7 storey building today. Suicide note tells of a sad story - the man was trying to get Raven Shield to work on his computers for 3 weeks straight with no technical support</marquee>[/b][/i]

XyZspineZyX · 09-12-2003, 07:14 PM

Also just for the record, I'm not saying that no one is correct for not believing what I believe (if that is the case), but I am just saying what I feel. I am very open for discussion on this issue (with the exception that my next post may be on monday [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif[/img] )

And I'm not trying to downplay 9-11, or up-play it... it is what it is...

<table style="filter:glow[color=blue, strength=4)">"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
- George Orwell</table>
[/b][/i]
<marquee bgcolor="#000000">Now in the news................................Ubisoft loses sales due to poor customer service and falsly advertised "technical support".....................In a gathering of top Bush administration officials, word leaked out that America wants to stop N. Korea from building Nuclear Reactors just because N. Korea is full Ubisoft supporters.....................Ubisoft enemies grow %3.25 today.....................Newest patch for Raven Shield include a whopping 14 extra computer crashing bugs, with a bonus extra level that makes your computer explode and kill you.....................New patch available for download for Ubisoft's Raven Shield (patch 1.99999999b).....................Culprit in massive power outage in the N.E. of United States found; A computer gamer was playing Raven Shield, and the FPS' dropped so low, that it drained the electricity of the N.E......................New investigation concludes that Liberia broke into civil war because their president defended Ubisoft, and the citizens did not.....................Author Tom Clancy gets arrested today as he enters game company Ubisoft offices, and strikes a developer several times in the face before escorted out of the building by a SWAT team.....................Man wanted for murder takes hostages in Montana home; police say that the demands are that Ubisoft stops screwing customers over. The police abruptly stopped negotiating when they found out his demands, and sent in the SWAT team in fear that the demands were impossible.....................Ex-Police Chief Charles Moose tells reporters of why he didn't write about his lousy experiences with game company Ubisoft. Moose says he will have to write another book just about that................................Man in L.A. jumps off 7 storey building today. Suicide note tells of a sad story - the man was trying to get Raven Shield to work on his computers for 3 weeks straight with no technical support</marquee>[/b][/i]

XyZspineZyX · 09-12-2003, 07:17 PM

I believe your thread will probably come to an abrupt end (Locked)just because of your sig.

Good topic though.
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XyZspineZyX · 09-12-2003, 07:20 PM

LOL nah, they've all seen it and some of them like it I'm sure! [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif[/img]

I've had it for a few months now...

<table style="filter:glow[color=blue, strength=4)">"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
- George Orwell</table>
[/b][/i]
<marquee bgcolor="#000000">Now in the news................................Ubisoft loses sales due to poor customer service and falsly advertised "technical support".....................In a gathering of top Bush administration officials, word leaked out that America wants to stop N. Korea from building Nuclear Reactors just because N. Korea is full Ubisoft supporters.....................Ubisoft enemies grow %3.25 today.....................Newest patch for Raven Shield include a whopping 14 extra computer crashing bugs, with a bonus extra level that makes your computer explode and kill you.....................New patch available for download for Ubisoft's Raven Shield (patch 1.99999999b).....................Culprit in massive power outage in the N.E. of United States found; A computer gamer was playing Raven Shield, and the FPS' dropped so low, that it drained the electricity of the N.E......................New investigation concludes that Liberia broke into civil war because their president defended Ubisoft, and the citizens did not.....................Author Tom Clancy gets arrested today as he enters game company Ubisoft offices, and strikes a developer several times in the face before escorted out of the building by a SWAT team.....................Man wanted for murder takes hostages in Montana home; police say that the demands are that Ubisoft stops screwing customers over. The police abruptly stopped negotiating when they found out his demands, and sent in the SWAT team in fear that the demands were impossible.....................Ex-Police Chief Charles Moose tells reporters of why he didn't write about his lousy experiences with game company Ubisoft. Moose says he will have to write another book just about that................................Man in L.A. jumps off 7 storey building today. Suicide note tells of a sad story - the man was trying to get Raven Shield to work on his computers for 3 weeks straight with no technical support</marquee>[/b][/i]

XyZspineZyX · 09-12-2003, 07:57 PM

You spelled story wrong in your sig, hehe, unless for buildings it's spelled differently..

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