would the Assassins order ally themselves with Marxism, Communism | Forums

[Assassin_M]

Soory but i disagree with that,do you have facts or proof for that statment?? I personaly dont see assassins ideology like that...

It is..

They Allied with the Church after Rodrigo, They had allies in and Infiltrated the Communist Party, They have Allies in the Patriots, They had allies in the house of Barbarigo, They even Infiltrated the house of Borgia and had allies in there, they had allies in the white house...

Why do you think they do this ? because they they love these guys ? No.. its because these relationships helps their cause and assures their continued fight against the templars..

In short, play the games, read the Comic, solve the glyphs...

[HisSpiritLives]

It is..

They Allied with the Church after Rodrigo, They had allies in and Infiltrated the Communist Party, They have Allies in the Patriots, They had allies in the house of Barbarigo, They even Infiltrated the house of Borgia and had allies in there, they had allies in the white house...

Why do you think they do this ? because they they love these guys ? No.. its because these relationships helps their cause and assures their continued fight against the templars..

In short, play the games, read the Comic, solve the glyphs...

Most of them were their own people, it isnt like they made a deal with that ,,groups,, .

[Assassin_M]

Most of them were their own people, it isnt like they made a deal with that ,,groups,, .

Deal ? Whoever said anything about a deal ? And no, the Pope wasnt an Assassin, Agostino Barbarigo was not an Assassin, Lenin was not Assassin, Tesla was not an Assassin, JFK was not an Assassin ...etc

They Infiltrate groups to cover their Assassin identity OR to help them defeat the Templars. They Ally with factions that are Enemies to another faction that has Templar ranks among it..

Im getting the Vibe that you`re one of those who believe the Assassins are saints..

[Kaschra]

Lenin's brother was an assassin though.

[Assassin_M]

Lenin's brother was an assassin though.

Indeed.. another example of Infiltration..

[De Filosoof]

would they ally themselves as being Far-left, marxist, communist etc...

do you view the assassins as being a far-left orginization

No, i think they are far above the political nonsense.

I think they're actually kinda spiritual. I wonder why we never saw them meditating in one of the games.
The phrace "nothing is true, everything is permitted" only applies to conscious spiritual beings.

[Assassin_M]

No, i think they are far above the political nonsense.

The most correct statement in this thread..

[Ork3n]

Would the Templar not be the communist with the powerful government and weak civil rights.

That's not the communism that Marx "created". Do not lead yourself into wrong beliefs only because people is corrupt and can't lead communism to practice.

For me communism is the best polotical IDEOLOGY but when in patrice, Socialism is better, however, not a single country is socialism imho. Corruption leads to capitalism nowadays and corruption is everywhere, specially among the strongest people in each country.

With that said, i think that the assassin's ideology is similar to the communism one, only that assassins defend that each person rules themselves, in communism, Proletariat rules each company. <- That's the difference between Marx's communism and Russia//China's communism.

No, i think they are far above the political nonsense.

I think they're actually kinda spiritual. I wonder why we never saw them meditating in one of the games.
The phrace "nothing is true, everything is permitted" only applies to conscious spiritual beings.

What? They try to remove men control so they preform some kind of political acts.

Nothing is true, everything is permitted DO NOT only applies to conscious spiritual beings, it just means that mens can't be sure about what's true or not and that rules are not made by gods but by men. What's spiritual about that?

[Assassin_M]

I think they're actually kinda spiritual. I wonder why we never saw them meditating in one of the games.
The phrace "nothing is true, everything is permitted" only applies to conscious spiritual beings.

Now why did you add that ?

How can they be spiritual when they seek to liberate from invisible bindings ? "I long for the day when men would turn away from invisible monsters and embrace a more logical explanation" -Altair
That`s Altair`s stand point, so apparently it applies to all. The Assassins are, Unarguably, a Political movement, just not what Modern Politics represents right now. They have their own Political Ideology..

[TheNatural2012]

The assassin order is symbolic for mankind is capable of anything if it has free will but society has been put in chains due to the collective ideas of some very powerful people. One must be free of all pre-concieved ideas from others to understand oneself. Many put there by society itself, and in the end nothing is true which could mean two things. nothing is true saying that all forms of limit are a illsion and in turn all forms are illsion or nothing is truth because without nothing everything that is something would mean nothing. Everything is permited,could mean there is no right or wrong choices only learning experiences or anything is possible through understanding nothing is true.I think It was left open for interperation. All through this could be completely wrong on what they were going for, even though what is said is true. Also viloence is not the answer.