That's what Microsoft says. It's no surprise of course, but with this forum being dead, and Michel Ancel saying BG&E2 needs the next-gen consoles, this is most certainly worth posting.
Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57...within-18-mos/
Now, let's pray for BG&E2 to be announced next year or sooner. If it isn't announced at next E3, we may as well give up hope. XD
Dazevo, I also think it has to be announced ideally this or early next year. After all this time, they should even have a demo. This is Ubi's commitment, if they really cared for BG&E, they would have done more to make it a reality. Just take a look at what they are doing for AC3.
There is no excuse for it not to be announced even now. They really need to get a good headstart with the marketing and release date right, this time, if it ever gets that far. Like you've written, if theres no release date by next year, I would have too given up hope.
I don't really buy Ancel's argument anymore that the game can only be made on next-gen hardware. The BG&E 2 tech demo they showed years ago might have been impressive at the time but today it's already outdated. We haven't seen anything that couldn't have been done on the current hardware already. I feel that it was nothing more of an excuse, and the real reason the game isn't being made is simply because they don't know what to do with it. I don't really care anymore to be honest, I still want a sequel but after all this time I have to wonder if a sequel would ever do the original justice.
All just excuses - BG&E2 should have been released years ago.
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It's Ubi that doesn't deserve respect , and they're basically limiting what Ancel can say, if that's whom you're referring to. If he had his way, the trilogy would have been done and dusted by now.Originally Posted by bitebug2003
I used to think this was the case, but ever since Ancel started stating that he wants next-gen hardware to create the "perfect" game I don't think we can continue to blame Ubisoft here. It's still possible Ancel is lying and Ubisoft is actually preventing the game from being made, but as far as we know Ancel simply doesn't want to make the game at this point in time. Either way I agree with bitebug that this is no way to treat the fans. Remember when they revealed the teaser trailer and some Ubisoft community people posted how they'll have more information soon? And then they suddenly deleted those comments and removed all mention of "BG&E 2"? And then there's the countless times the game was "cancelled" according to one Ubisoft spokesperson and then "not cancelled" according to another. I'm tired of it. I think most fans are seeing how there are like only about four people that still bother posting here.
Ancel's always been open, when he can, he's stated before that BG&E does mean alot to him, so in that regard, I doubt he'd risk anything on his behalf that would impede or slow down the game's natural progression, especially in the case of BG&E. Anything that Ancel has made has always been amazing, in my opinion. So he's current vision may not be technically achievable on current-gen. But are ubi honestly gonna invest in the game, with next game development costs? Ancel's the reason why ubi are, "considering" the sequel.
I assume Ancel wouldn't delay the game for next-gen if he didn't believe Ubisoft would fund the project. The thing is that he has to show Ubisoft something that actually makes them want to fund the project. That's Ancel's responsibility. He says he needs next-gen, it's up to him and his team to prove that and get funding.
For example, look at this short gameplay trailer for "Rememer Me" from Capcom:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ31YN-vyC4
That's still current gen and the concept behind it looks very interesting. I do have to wonder what Ancel wants to do with BG&E 2 that simply isn't possible on current gen. And I'm not sure if we'll ever find out at this point.
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I think Ancel made a strong plea for the sequel to be made, whether he threatened to leave(Rumor: for the lack of development of BG&E2, which would make sense) or Ubi genuinely believed in the concept. The former makes more sense, if Ubi really believed in original, they would have had no problem in making BG&E2, it would have been here by now.
Anything that is not on the creative side of the project sounds like a real mess. The real problem is Ubi's commitment, they don't know how to be clearcut, they themselves don't know the status of sequel. This has lead to company representatives giving out mixed messages to the fans or simply no communication at all.
As for development for this gen, Initially, I would have thought it would have been possible on current gen, but when you've gathered what Ancel's said, it does sound like a next gen title. He's wants to make a solar system, with planet travel, so it will be very large. Current consoles are too limited for this, unless you have a good the team behind it's development like, for example, GTA's, Rockstar.
I don't agree. See, this can be done on the current gen just fine. The problem is creating all the assests for them. For example all the textures needed for all the levels. Nowadays that's so much more work, you need a lot more people, time and money to create all the levels. So sure, GTA 5 had a good team behind, but more importantly it had a large team behind it and GTA 5 was one of the most expensive games ever made. Why can a game like Minecraft where you basically create your own world be created by one person? Look at the default graphics of the game and you'll understand why. An even better example: Mass Effect. The original game actually had you explore a lot of different planets, it was doing exactly what you described and it was doing it five years ago. Visiting those planets and looking at the different skyboxes with planets and stars in the background was a sight to behold, even today. But people complained how the buildings on those planets all looked alike. Mass Effect 3? Only a few planets to visit, and the levels are all very linear. And it's only going to get worse on next-gen systems, as there'll be even more demand for higher-resolution textures and more detailed levels.
That's at least one reason why BG&E 2's more realistic look might be a mistake. In fact I think it IS a mistake. The original BG&E still looks good today in high-res, and that's simply because of the artstyle of the game. So why change that? Honestly I don't know what they're doing, and I doubt they know either. I do agree with the rest of your post by the way. There's a problem with Ubisoft not committing to development of the game, but I feel like it's partly on the creative side as well.
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