Assassin's Creed 1 combat... Just cannot get into it | Forums

[sidspyker24]

You took the easiest ones by the way.
Anyways, there is something i hate about AC1 combat, there was one attack where you can't get it flawlessly unless you get lucky with it. There is a rushed swing that has no animation on it, and it happens (with the hardest soldiers) when he is stepping towards you, remember some of the enemy's steps are just to lure you (and the non animated swing have a big chance to be made by the guard, sometimes he wont), if you pressed counter attack and it was all luring step the next guard will swing his sword and hit you, cause of the wasted counter. The swing animation was later fixed in AC2.

Uhh yeah the description does say that it's not all the archetypes...
I liked that part, deception.

[itsamea-mario]

Well, you can break grabs, you can dodge, countering does work if you time it right, and combo's are done by striking as soon as your last hit lands, also a matter of timing. and timing is a matter of skill, if you can't do it you need practice since you're clearly not good enough.
Most of this skill get taken away after the attack on Masayaf, and they are gradually relearned so that requires patience.
and lastly, if you've come in straight from ACB you're obviously going to find it a lot harder, ACB was basically a button mashing exercise.

One more thing, as a game it is unlikely to show 'realism' but i'd say combat is more realistic in AC1, in real life you ain't winning a fight against 10 guys.

As for the game, remember it is the first and the oldest game, so give a little slack, just be patient and practise.

[TheHumanTowel]

No, but I see after a bit of looking around that the other guys are right; I was used to the Assassin being able to do most of the basic stuff at the very beginning, because that was the case in every game. But as it turns out, it seems that because Altair got demoted, he also lost the ability to Counter attack and to do Combo Attacks, along with basically every move he had at the very start (when he also had full health), but loses all this after the black robe guy stabbing him in front of all those people. That was my problem.

Anyone have any idea when you earn back the combo kill and the counter attacks? I also don't seem to have my throwing knives.

You get your counter kill back after your first assassination in Damascus.

[soldiersback]

You get your counter kill back after your first assassination in Damascus.

Okay awesome. I posted this thread just after leaving the first city on the horse, where all the guards are hostile if they see you. I had been practising the fighting there and I just couldn't understand why nothing worked anymore. I mean I did see that some things were taken away but I figured the abilities had come back after the first eavesdropping and pickpocketing missions. I'm In damascus now stalking that dude, have been doing things stealthy now and saving the occassional civvie just slashing with the sword.

Now that I know that I am not doing it wrong somehow but that I have yet to earn the skills... There is still hope I'll report back when I earn the skills

[connor_bg]

Thats my sucka.

[papertiger98]

You will need to get really good at countering in Assassins creed 1 by the end of the game he gets a similar feel to ezio's countering. I don't want to spoil anything but like the said learn the counter and combo is ok idea. when you learn the counter learn to also be able to do it. if you let it slack you will hate yourself when you get to the very end of the game.

also remember you cannot get in to the water in AC1 you instant desync. I have read people complain about that but makes sense to me. altair lives in the desert no reason for swimming abilities. also lives in a different time frame. ezio during his century time frame most people carried weapons for protections and the upper classes took fencing classes. so he would have a more god like ability to fight.

altair is more rough about his fighting abilities but like other said his was more sneak and kill then anything else. the games do follow history very well with fighting styles and information you have any etc. that is what i got when i went from AC1to AC2.

[TheHumanTowel]

Okay awesome. I posted this thread just after leaving the first city on the horse, where all the guards are hostile if they see you. I had been practising the fighting there and I just couldn't understand why nothing worked anymore. I mean I did see that some things were taken away but I figured the abilities had come back after the first eavesdropping and pickpocketing missions. I'm In damascus now stalking that dude, have been doing things stealthy now and saving the occassional civvie just slashing with the sword.

Now that I know that I am not doing it wrong somehow but that I have yet to earn the skills... There is still hope I'll report back when I earn the skills

No problem. The combat is quite similar once you get your counter kill. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it. Enjoy yourself.

[itsamea-mario]

AC1's combat had some neat little features that were dropped in other games.
Heavy attacks are good as they can deal a lot of damage to even an enemy who is blocking, also using heavy attacks are good when combat is coming to an end and you can string together quick kills. Heavy attacks do make an appearance in other games, but they only work with heavy weapons, and in AC2 the ability is bought at the training ground.
Countering a heavy attack causes you to enter a little interactive sequence, Altair will put himself into a position where you can choose to kill your opponent with a weapon by pressing the attack button, or break their legs with the leg button. This is harder to pull off however since it's not clear when exactly to counter.
I'm pretty sure defense break didn't make an appearance in AC2, the name says it all, if you quickstep towards your opponent then attack you will knock their guard away allowing you to attack them directly, this is learned at some point.

And IMO AC1's combat felt grittier, more brutal and more real, along with better blood graphics and sound effects plus better kill cameras.

[massmurdera_666]

Okay awesome. I posted this thread just after leaving the first city on the horse, where all the guards are hostile if they see you. I had been practising the fighting there and I just couldn't understand why nothing worked anymore. I mean I did see that some things were taken away but I figured the abilities had come back after the first eavesdropping and pickpocketing missions. I'm In damascus now stalking that dude, have been doing things stealthy now and saving the occassional civvie just slashing with the sword.

Now that I know that I am not doing it wrong somehow but that I have yet to earn the skills... There is still hope I'll report back when I earn the skills

dam dude, are you paying any attention to the story at all? also, like everyone before has said, practice practice practice. i love the combat in AC1, it's my favorite in the whole series because it was difficult to master, i find myself playing AC2 and up fighting like Altiar just to give myself some extra challenge. practice and don't give up.

[MetalCreed]

My brother rented AC1 along with purchasing MGS4 in summer of 2009, when me and brother bought a PS3 (the same day) and it was a pretty decent game then.
I got AC2 as a birthday gift in November, and fell in love with the game (which when I truly became a fan of series.)

I installed AC1 to my hard drive which came for free with the purchase of ACR a month or so ago to see if I could finish the game, and I hated it. Couldn't stand it.
Uninstalled it, and I don't think I'll be installing it again. It was horrendous.