Assassin's Creed 1 combat... Just cannot get into it | Forums

[soldiersback]

Hello,

I was introduced to the Assassin's Creed series when I played AC2. The combat was great. In Brotherhood it was even better. I also played Revelations after that, but I didn't like that one so much. Oh well.

I figured as I played all the AC games but the first one, I might as well buy that one too and play it. But boy was I wrong, right now I absolutely hate it. Altair feels so weak. He cannot strafe, he can only jump towards enemies? Combat feels very clunky. You can't break loose from a grab? As Ezio I can rip the enemies to shreds no problem but as Altair I cannot even fight 5 guys at once.

What am I doing wrong? Countering doesn't work outside the training grounds for some reason. And the "Tap X as you make contact" thing also works VERY clunky. I just can't get into this game because of this. I feel like a coward running away from all the enemies because the combat just doesn't work.

So any help is appreciated. I hope it gets better than .... this.

EDIT: "Save the citizen"... Well I guess I'll just leave the poor old lady being beaten to death because Altair is an old lady himself. Wouldn't want him to break a hip doing laundry or something

[Gil_217]

Maybe you can't get into it because Assassin's Creed's combat is the hardest, and in my opinion that's not saying much, because it's still easy. The combat in all other games is just very easy, even a 5-year old can get it done. Just pratice more and you will eventually control it.

[SixKeys]

If countering isn't working outside the training ground, you're doing something wrong. AC2 and later games were much more forgiving with the counter window, in AC1 you need to time your attacks just right. It is possible to break free when a soldier grabs you, but Altaïr doesn't learn that skill until later levels.

AC1's combat was designed to be challenging on purpose. Unlike Ezio, who is pretty much in god mode all the time and can slaughter dozens of soldiers without breaking a sweat, AC1 forces you to kill the enemies you can and run and hide when you get overwhelmed.

[sidspyker24]

Hard?


Anyway, in AC1 it's...you learn things as you progress, so you must be at the very beginning so it must be a bit hard for you, have patience, having patience is an absolute must for AC1, and the combo kills ARE the most effective according to me. But it'll take more than 1 try to kill them since you're at the very beginning, the best advice I could possibly offer you is, go to the training ground and practice Combo a LOT of times, AC1's combat is my favourite, it's down to earth and challenging when you're new to it.

[soldiersback]

Hard?


Anyway, in AC1 it's...you learn things as you progress, so you must be at the very beginning so it must be a bit hard for you, have patience, having patience is an absolute must for AC1, and the combo kills ARE the most effective according to me. But it'll take more than 1 try to kill them since you're at the very beginning, the best advice I could possibly offer you is, go to the training ground and practice Combo a LOT of times, AC1's combat is my favourite, it's down to earth and challenging when you're new to it.

Yeah I only have 4 health blocks and only the hidden blade and a sword. I don't fully get how the combo kills work (because they never work, sometimes I get them randomly lol) so right now I just block their sword attacks and keep mowing them with the sword until I kill them by pure luck.

I know that Ezio had pretty easy kills but there were parts where there were hundreds of enemies coming and that was just epic. Here I feel like a grandma when fighting.

PS: You really all have to do that annoying Image Verification every post...? You must not get much people here on the forums...

[sidspyker24]

PS: You really all have to do that annoying Image Verification every post...? You must not get much people here on the forums...

Lol, we get enough people here, this captcha was introduced recently because of the huge amount of spam and my guess is it's temporary.

[SaintPerkele]

In AC1, you learn a lot more techniques as you progress; counterattacks and countergrabs won't be your skills from the very beginning but rather towards the end of the game.
Considering that you have only four health blocks and not even a short blade, you are at the very, very beginning of the game, you will get stronger. However, AC1 forces you to run sometimes instead of fighting (which I enjoyed, but I guess that's different for people who played the other AC games before they played the original one), there are guards (the Templars) who are basically impossible to kill in a fair fight before you learn the counter attack. That's what AC was originally about: sneak in, murder your target, fight off a few guards and then run to get the hell out of there. I prefered this to being an almost immortal killing machine, but I suppose that's depending on you.

[xX_V3N3M0U5_Xx]

Hello,

I was introduced to the Assassin's Creed series when I played AC2. The combat was great. In Brotherhood it was even better. I also played Revelations after that, but I didn't like that one so much. Oh well.

I figured as I played all the AC games but the first one, I might as well buy that one too and play it. But boy was I wrong, right now I absolutely hate it. Altair feels so weak. He cannot strafe, he can only jump towards enemies? Combat feels very clunky. You can't break loose from a grab? As Ezio I can rip the enemies to shreds no problem but as Altair I cannot even fight 5 guys at once.

What am I doing wrong? Countering doesn't work outside the training grounds for some reason. And the "Tap X as you make contact" thing also works VERY clunky. I just can't get into this game because of this. I feel like a coward running away from all the enemies because the combat just doesn't work.

So any help is appreciated. I hope it gets better than .... this.

EDIT: "Save the citizen"... Well I guess I'll just leave the poor old lady being beaten to death because Altair is an old lady himself. Wouldn't want him to break a hip doing laundry or something

it doesnt suck, its just YOU suck at it because you are used to ezio's god-like fighting

[connor_bg]

Hard?
Anyway, in AC1 it's...you learn things as you progress, so you must be at the very beginning so it must be a bit hard for you, have patience, having patience is an absolute must for AC1, and the combo kills ARE the most effective according to me. But it'll take more than 1 try to kill them since you're at the very beginning, the best advice I could possibly offer you is, go to the training ground and practice Combo a LOT of times, AC1's combat is my favourite, it's down to earth and challenging when you're new to it.

You took the easiest ones by the way.
Anyways, there is something i hate about AC1 combat, there was one attack where you can't get it flawlessly unless you get lucky with it. There is a rushed swing that has no animation on it, and it happens (with the hardest soldiers) when he is stepping towards you, remember some of the enemy's steps are just to lure you (and the non animated swing have a big chance to be made by the guard, sometimes he wont), if you pressed counter attack and it was all luring step the next guard will swing his sword and hit you, cause of the wasted counter. Literally there was no swing at all in AC1, you see Altair getting hit and the sword in the chest, like it was magically teleported there. The swing animation was later fixed in AC2.

[soldiersback]

it doesnt suck, its just YOU suck at it because you are used to ezio's god-like fighting

No, but I see after a bit of looking around that the other guys are right; I was used to the Assassin being able to do most of the basic stuff at the very beginning, because that was the case in every game. But as it turns out, it seems that because Altair got demoted, he also lost the ability to Counter attack and to do Combo Attacks, along with basically every move he had at the very start (when he also had full health), but loses all this after the black robe guy stabbing him in front of all those people. That was my problem.

Anyone have any idea when you earn back the combo kill and the counter attacks? I also don't seem to have my throwing knives.