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[DazedUp]

That shouldn't be something that we have to settle for, and it shouldn't really exist in the first place.

I agree with you, but there isn't much we can do about it other than being a greater example for others.

[SquirrelInDaSky]

I believe sexism is part of humans nature, but it manifests itself differently in different people.IMO sexism does not always carry a negative meaning. A man treats men and women differently, and there is nothing wrong about it, right? But weak asocial guys have a perverted understanding of sexism, they say nasty things to women over xbox live to show their dominance they have lost in society. That's a way to recover self-esteem i suppose.

[Nejjy]

I've had this before, it's definitely not a new thing. I've been called a "female dog" more times than I can remember, and the amount of kitchen jokes -.-

[Lethalality]

That shouldn't be something that we have to settle for, and it shouldn't really exist in the first place.

So basically "Yes we know but we don't wanna use it because it won't solve anything" Yea true but really look at the people your dealing with honestly.

And i gotta say i'm on the bandwagon with those people of just leaving it be its just a game.

[LaChatNoir]

This is purely my own opinion.
I have to say that just because something bad continues, that doesn't make it right. For anything. Settling for the wrong choice is never a good decision and if you do that you are just as much at fault as the people actually doing it. One person can and does make a difference and if you go about things correctly, other people will follow your example.

Please let's do make sure that this topic remains free of insults and language.
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Whoa, Shrappy is a lady. No wonder you never wanted to use a mic. You were afraid you'd hear every sandwich joke in my arsenal (which is admittedly just one, but it's a good one).

I think what's being lost amongst a lot of people in this thread is that almost nobody has said "It's good that people spewed hate at you because you're a woman." Pretty much everyone agrees that this sort of thing is bad. What you're seeing is not people arguing for or against abuse, but people arguing about how they cope with stressful situations and the ugly feelings that can sometimes follow. It's not limited to "one right answer" so much as acknowledging the truth.

If this sort of thing happened to someone that you loved and cared about, you would be upset. If this sort of thing happened before your eyes in a restaurant, you would be upset. Maybe even moved to action. It's easy to dismiss it because it happens on the internet - long known to be a cesspool of anonymity breeding horrible comments - but it's not happening on the internet. It's happening in living rooms and bedrooms and it's crude, horrible stuff. I disagree with anyone who says "It's the internet" because the internet is just a tool for communication. It's the same thing as standing on a street corner with a megaphone shouting "****!" at every woman who passes by. You wouldn't say "Relax, it's just the megaphone!"

That being said, a lot of people deal with uncomfortable and/or stressful situations by walking away. I've done it, myself, and recently. It's important not to make people feel like they're aiding and abetting the problem because they choose to walk away. Sometimes walking away is all that you can do. Sometimes confrontation isn't in you, or it's simply more difficult than taking yourself out of the situation. Not everyone who plays a game to relax wants to take the opportunity to be a culture warrior, and that isn't an unreasonable response. It also doesn't make you part of the problem.

I'd just say again, think about your sister or your girlfriend or your wife playing a game and being spoken to like that. You don't have to take every chance to prove how progressive and upstanding you are. But if you take A chance, you'd be surprised at the difference it can make in someone's life. Not just the person being abused, but the person doing the abusing.

I think the above quotes from Black Widow and thergbcolor from earlier in the thread sums things up nicely again and we also need to remember that this thread is not really just about sexism anymore, it’s about the other slurs that can be just as hurtful, for example, sexual orientation.
DazedUp and Serrachio are right though, we shouldn’t have to “settle” with other people’s rudeness and we should try to be the greater people.
This is where I think Jenny Haniver from Not In The Kitchen put it best: