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[JaRuTo]

I will laugh so hard if you go through a puddle/stream in these stealth shoes and no one hears around you, haha.

[SolidSage]

Despite all the new abilities that SCC had, you could still play the game like the originals if you were good enough. Despite some of the less-than-positive opinions of the added traversal mechanics (climbing, killing in motion) most of that is geared more towards the action players - and besides, those are all cool abilities to have at your disposal!.

This is an accurate statement. Stealth was harder to achieve in SCC but it was there is spades.
The biggest legitimate complaint regarding SCC stealth relates to the inability to Ghost the entire game...which is so odd to me. Buying a game so you can basically bypass ALL of the, well, playing, and just view the AI and their scripted routines??? It's not like Ghosting was difficult in the early games really. There was a pretty obvious shadow path and you followed it waiting for windows of opportunity. The most difficult thing about the Classic games was controlling Sam with any kind of precision and agility, especially during an action encounter.

A good portion of SCC can be ghosted (50% approximately in co-op, a bit less in SP..maybe) and I think that is plenty.

[Knot3D]

There was a pretty obvious shadow path and you followed it waiting for windows of opportunity.

No, the fun factor in the vintage games was to be had from fooling around with the audible factor. Pandora Tomorrow's AI hearing is still the sharpest of all SC's. Therein lies the stealth fun, not so much about figuring out the safe zones. SCC however, pretty much excised the (footstep) audible factor.

[SolidSage]

@Knot
Right but that's not about ghosting as much as interacting with the AI in a way that you found fun, just like me enjoying getting into some aggro with SCC's AI.
I thought 360 DA's audible game play was impressive, was PT really better than that? I don't remember it being such a large factor as in DA but time wears memories thin.

Anyway, I was talking about the level of fun that could be had from earlier games, just that 'Ghosting' in them (for whatever portion of the game) was relatively easy as compared to SCC.

I think deep audible game play might well be an enhancement to future SC titles. You could still drop a bunch of targets aggressively (killing in motion) while they were hearing you without an alert going off if it was done expediently, so I don't think there is a real barrier to it's re-inclusion. Just need to get rid of that "bad guy saw you so every related guard on the map immediately is alerted" plague that seems to be infecting LOTS of titles these days. I appreciated the target actually having to shout or get on the radio or RAISE an alarm in older games. These days it's like they're ants and all know what the other is seeing and thinking or something.