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[Limbic_sinner]

You don't need to compare it to MTG. Its some basic TCG stuff you have to know. If you have less Cards in your deck, the Odds to drawing your good (or important) Cards are much higher. As long as you don't die because you have no Cards left in your deck all the time, there is no reason to fill up your deck with mediocre Card. Of course some people think "but all the cards in my deck are good, i need them all" - but thats what the Skill is about Deckbuilding - deciding what Cards are really good. They're never all equaly good.

People say "this is Op - that is OP" and then they Post they are playing with 75 Card deck. Really? You just need reasons why you loose. But the Reason is your Deck and surely not Enrage. Creature with Enrage have either low HP (easy to counter with a lot of cards) or are pretty expensive.

The most problematic thing i encountered till now are the Inferno creatures with high Attack (4/3/4 for 3 or 6/4/4 for 4) - because of 4 HP they're not so easy countered and most of the times you can't set any creatures infront of them, because they will kill most with just a single hit. You also can't effectively race them (kill your opponent faster) - because they hit you for so much HP.

Spell based Decks could be to strong as well. But not sure now, since i didn't play against many (most good spells are uncommon and rare)

[glowackij]

You don't need to compare it to MTG. Its some basic TCG stuff you have to know. If you have less Cards in your deck, the Odds to drawing your good (or important) Cards are much higher. As long as you don't die because you have no Cards left in your deck all the time, there is no reason to fill up your deck with mediocre Card. Of course some people think "but all the cards in my deck are good, i need them all" - but thats what the Skill is about Deckbuilding - deciding what Cards are really good. They're never all equaly good.

People say "this is Op - that is OP" and then they Post they are playing with 75 Card deck. Really? You just need reasons why you loose. But the Reason is your Deck and surely not Enrage. Creature with Enrage have either low HP (easy to counter with a lot of cards) or are pretty expensive.

The most problematic thing i encountered till now are the Inferno creatures with high Attack (4/3/4 for 3 or 6/4/4 for 4) - because of 4 HP they're not so easy countered and most of the times you can't set any creatures infront of them, because they will kill most with just a single hit. You also can't effectively race them (kill your opponent faster) - because they hit you for so much HP.

Spell based Decks could be to strong as well. But not sure now, since i didn't play against many (most good spells are uncommon and rare)

This is the best possible answer to Muerte79 and I completely agree with this.
When it comes to Inferno, that was my first choice as a starting deck, tbh only because i thought it is going to be more like medium-old Mono R Aggro from MTG. A lot of cheap creatures with haste (quick attack) with strong attack and poor toughness, which go to graveyard after the first turn the are played + lots of instant burning spells (while instant means something very different in MTG than in DoC - here they are just sorceries, i hope it is gonna change later). As soon as possible I switched to Stronghold, which I believe to be the best deck atm. What UBI should do with Inferno imo, it to make the deck faster, create a really strong hero, who could combine Fire and Air schools or think of some better Fire spells (not like Immolation - one of the poorest perma spells in the game, and it is rare!) and that would be Inferno to me - Hell on Earth baby, fast deamons, incredible devils (do you guys remember devilish teleportation fom HoM&M?), don't let your opp even know what is going on around, burn, heat, aggression, serious combination of RB or GR from MTG - that's Inferno

[glowackij]

Gz Limbic_sinner, I just had an opportunity to play against you, that was a fast game, unfortunately for me You have ruined my pretty nice row of 4 wins, but still, great deck, well composed and I am done, thx, hope we'll meet again

[mtkyebra]

You're all noobs whinning without a clue of the balance of the game and trying to obtain changes without knowing 20% of the cards and possible combos.

Start knowing the cards before saying a single additional word.

Then play 200 games and start talking then.

Magic is balanced (more or less) and it has been adjusted a lot of times.

Inferno creatures are so easy to kill. Compare them to the 3-4 resource creatures from haven or necro (that use to have regenerate or poison and nearly all fly), before saying another time they are strong.

[nordentipwel]

Funny thing to add to mtkyebra post is that you all guys, complaining on what french people were complaining some times ago, because they were lvl 5-10 and thought they had seen the whole game.
They're a lot more stuff in this game. Inferno is easily manageable. There're so much cards that kicks *** more than a Lilim.

[mrseev]

im much higher than lvl 5-10. Iv got all cards. Lilim hp is definitely too high. Now happy?

[zenithale]

This is an OP combo : 8 level 6 creatures and 2 barren lands in 1 turn.

[mrseev]

yep, but u need a lot of cards and mana generators asha, shantiri, reinforcements and maybe seria legion.

we definitely need some more cards to invent some new crazy combos :>

[nordentipwel]

im much higher than lvl 5-10. Iv got all cards. Lilim hp is definitely too high. Now happy?

OK you win

[Ch3rryAC]

To nordentipwel and mtkyebra AKA "pros":

If you find other imbalanced tacticts at higher level it DOESN'T mean the game is balanced.

This is opinion thread, if someone says that the game is imbalanced its his opinion, no need to call him noob. I know You two are so PRO, that your ELO of over 9000 was reset so other players don't feel poorly.

Yeah there are stronger cards than Lilim, but the game should be balanced at low levels, so if Inferno deck at lvl 5 is way stronger than Necro deck at lvl 5 THERE IS something wrong with balance.

The last major change with Enrage ability from 5 days ago shows that balance is still work-in-progres, so all opinions matter.

And by the way, we know all the card, because database at duelofchampions.pl contains more cards than yours French http://momcards.no-ip.org

Last but not the least: if the game is balanced at higher levels how come players like MagicCJN and BlyBly could get win-streaks over 40?

You normally DON'T WIN so much games in a row in a balanced game.